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TexasTowelie

(112,321 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:40 AM Sep 2013

Miss America cheers pageant diversity

Source: AP

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. —

Moments after winning the 2014 Miss America crown, Nina Davuluri described how delighted she is that the nearly century-old pageant sees beauty and talent of all kinds.

The 24-year-old Miss New York is the first contestant of Indian heritage to become Miss America; her talent routine was a Bollywood fusion dance.

"I'm so happy this organization has embraced diversity," she said in her first press conference after winning the crown in Atlantic City, N.J.'s Boardwalk Hall. "I'm thankful there are children watching at home who can finally relate to a new Miss America."

Her pageant platform was "celebrating diversity through cultural competency."

Read more: http://www.statesman.com/ap/ap/texas/new-miss-america-to-be-crowned-sunday-night/nZxhr/




Miss New York Nina Davuluri, front, is crowned as Miss America 2014 by Miss America 2013 Mallory Hagan, Sunday, Sept. 15, 2013, in Atlantic City, N.J. (AP Photo/Mel Evans)


Miss New York Nina Davuluri walks down the runway after winning the the Miss America 2014 pageant, Sunday, Sept. 15, 2013, in Atlantic City, N.J. (AP Photo/Mel Evans)
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Miss America cheers pageant diversity (Original Post) TexasTowelie Sep 2013 OP
And in the typical RW lunatic response, Twitter was littered with racist ilk BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #1
It's fortunate that Ms. Davuluri plans to study medicine so she can provide this response to the RW: TexasTowelie Sep 2013 #2
Gawd, I wish we still had the DUzy Awards. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2013 #28
I do not understand why the racists on the right just have to blow off steam SmittynMo Sep 2013 #8
Because they're afraid, that their world is crumbling. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #37
Better yet, move out of the country. No one wants to hear how ignorant you really are. lunasun Sep 2013 #40
They won't be happy until another 700-Club RWNJ like Terry Ann Meeuwsen (1973) wins. Myrina Sep 2013 #11
Or Anita Bryant. nolabear Sep 2013 #18
stupidty, ignorance and backwardness heaven05 Sep 2013 #20
My, my... Fringe Sep 2013 #36
i will be glad when these things are done away with JI7 Sep 2013 #3
Seriously... PasadenaTrudy Sep 2013 #12
As a Kansan, Sky Masterson Sep 2013 #4
Is this about the tattoos? roody Sep 2013 #5
nope Sky Masterson Sep 2013 #6
everyone has their own aesthetic disqualifiers Supersedeas Sep 2013 #50
As diverse as "beauty pageant" for underweight women could be I, guess. ehrnst Sep 2013 #7
Nina Davuluri does not look underweight to me. L0oniX Sep 2013 #9
Ask Miss Iowa about that cyberswede Sep 2013 #25
wow...excellent n/t Psephos Sep 2013 #51
Cool but I didn't appreciate the comment she had to make in the intro's ... Myrina Sep 2013 #10
"girls"?? thought one had to be over 18 to enter the pagaent circuit? niyad Sep 2013 #13
Clutch pearls, gasp! Myrina Sep 2013 #14
how lovely to be dismissive of a legitimate question. niyad Sep 2013 #15
If you're trying to bait me into an argument because it's Monday morning Myrina Sep 2013 #16
wow--thanks, I needed the laugh. niyad Sep 2013 #17
Her Bollywood number. She starts behind the music and then gets a head of it a little KittyWampus Sep 2013 #19
Wow, that sure knocked the audience's socks off. What a show-stopper. Hekate Sep 2013 #23
Compare and contrast with this item... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #26
Oh thank you SO much for that completely irrelevant observation on a young AMERICAN woman's ... Hekate Sep 2013 #29
Her theme is "celebrating diversity through cultural competency." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #30
So she should not celebrate a part of her heritage because... smitra Sep 2013 #38
My hope is her win will inspire the world to look to India and end the oppression of women. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #39
You have not answered the question(s) I raised in my post... smitra Sep 2013 #41
You got all of that out of my post? Seriously? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #42
Yes, seriously. n/t smitra Sep 2013 #43
This is why they need to legalize pot. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #46
Setting to 'Ignore'. n/t smitra Sep 2013 #47
Anyone else, as long as I'm up? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #48
She is lovely! Fringe Sep 2013 #35
And this is an achievement...how? alp227 Sep 2013 #21
Another thing... Quantess Sep 2013 #22
$50,000 for medical school is a serious prize. Dollface Sep 2013 #27
As was pointed out on Melissa Harris-Perry's show by an African-American former Miss America Hekate Sep 2013 #31
these Days Contestants end up spending as much if not more just to try to win these things JI7 Sep 2013 #32
There is a big difference between the Miss America and Miss U.S.A. pageants >> YOHABLO Sep 2013 #49
You must see the video before you dismiss this.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #24
haven't there already been black and other minority women who have won this thing ? JI7 Sep 2013 #33
Of course. Vanessa Williams. One of those names that sounds familiar but you don't know why... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #34
8 African Americans, according to Melissa Harris-Perry's guest Hekate Sep 2013 #44
Of course there have been, this is hardly anything new or unusual. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2013 #45

BumRushDaShow

(129,232 posts)
1. And in the typical RW lunatic response, Twitter was littered with racist ilk
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:28 AM
Sep 2013
(CNN) -- No sooner had the tiara been placed atop her head than a barrage of racist tweets flooded the Internet.

"If you're #Miss America you should have to be American," said one.

"WHEN WILL A WHITE WOMAN WIN #MISSAMERICA? Ever??!!" screamed another.

Nina Davuluri is American. She just happens to be of Indian descent. In fact, she's the first Indian-American to be crowned Miss America.

<snip>

"Well they just picked a Muslim for Miss America. That must've made Obama happy. Maybe he had a vote," vented one person.

Not that it bears pointing out, but Davuluri's not a Muslim -- and the president didn't have a vote.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/showbiz/miss-america-racist-reactions/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


To borrow (and adapt) the utterance of the Steven Hiller character in "Independence Day" to the alien who crash landed - <WHOMP!> "Welcome to America".

DinahMoeHum

(21,801 posts)
28. Gawd, I wish we still had the DUzy Awards. . .
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:05 PM
Sep 2013

. . .because your post and that puss are winners!!!!!!!!

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
8. I do not understand why the racists on the right just have to blow off steam
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:11 AM
Sep 2013

and be heard on the internet, on how they hate Muslims, and anyone else. We all know you're racists. Keep this shit to yourself. Better yet, move out of the country. No one wants to hear how ignorant you really are.

Uncle Joe

(58,378 posts)
37. Because they're afraid, that their world is crumbling.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 06:45 PM
Sep 2013

When you base all your judgments and pre-conceived ideas due to the color of someone's skin, you create an extremely narrow outlook as to "us vs them."

Under the yoke of their limited perception anything not matching the superficial idea of you becomes them.

They can't identify with the world.

Their frustration is all based on fear and ignorance.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
40. Better yet, move out of the country. No one wants to hear how ignorant you really are.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:27 PM
Sep 2013

America 2013
~~~~Love it or Leave it ~~~!!!!!!

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
11. They won't be happy until another 700-Club RWNJ like Terry Ann Meeuwsen (1973) wins.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:47 AM
Sep 2013

Ugh I am so embarassed that she's from my hometown.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. stupidty, ignorance and backwardness
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:33 AM
Sep 2013

permeates all societies and cultures, we americans are well represented in that sub culture. I glad to see the new Miss America. She is pretty and smart.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
4. As a Kansan,
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:44 AM
Sep 2013

I'm glad Miss Kansas lost.
The only Miss America I want to see is the Miss America that
has only the guns that evolution gave her.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. As diverse as "beauty pageant" for underweight women could be I, guess.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:53 AM
Sep 2013

How does a pageant encourage diversity when the goal is to weed out all but the most "ideal" appearance?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
10. Cool but I didn't appreciate the comment she had to make in the intro's ...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:45 AM
Sep 2013

.... when they were saying who they were & where they're from, hers was something about 'sending text photos isn't allowed in this contest but it IS allowed in my home state ... I'm Miss New York!'

Who were the shills that wrote that shit? Nearly all of them were obnoxious little blurbs. I wonder if any of the girls was hesitant to say the crap?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
16. If you're trying to bait me into an argument because it's Monday morning
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:58 AM
Sep 2013

& I was typing off the top of my head rather than weighing every single letter for political correctness so as not to offend persons like yourself, you need to find a more fulfillling hobby.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
19. Her Bollywood number. She starts behind the music and then gets a head of it a little
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:12 AM
Sep 2013

Still gorgeous. I LOVE BOLLYWOOD.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
26. Compare and contrast with this item...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 02:46 PM
Sep 2013

"Honor killings" are still rampant in India.

[font size=3]Four face death for ‘cold-blooded’ murder of Delhi gang rape victim[/font size]
<snip>
The case has resonated with thousands of urban Indians who took to the streets in fury after the attack. The victim’s path through education onto the first rungs of middle-class life seemed to epitomize the aspirations of millions of young women in a society where many men believe women should stay at home.
<snip>
In his 240-page judgment, Judge Khanna slammed the “inconsistent” defense. Three of the men said they were never on the bus, and another said he was driving and knew nothing of the crime, despite DNA evidence and bite marks on the women’s body that placed them at the scene.

Khanna said the attackers pulled the woman’s intestines from her body with metal rods and their bare hands. He accused the men of cold-bloodedly killing their “helpless victim.”


http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/10/four-face-death-for-cold-blooded-murder-of-delhi-gang-rape-victim/

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
29. Oh thank you SO much for that completely irrelevant observation on a young AMERICAN woman's ...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:38 PM
Sep 2013

... performance.

If an Irish-American wins will you be sure to point out the atrocities that have taken place in that benighted land? Our understanding of a young woman's talent portion will not be complete without it.

Hekate
(as I've mentioned before, Irish-American)

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
30. Her theme is "celebrating diversity through cultural competency."
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:57 PM
Sep 2013

The woman in India died because she wanted more than being someone's property.

smitra

(290 posts)
38. So she should not celebrate a part of her heritage because...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:50 PM
Sep 2013

there is a certain negative aspect to that heritage?

Brutal rapes are not exactly unknown in America either, which is no stranger to having a section of its male population believing that they have the right to dominate the female of their species.

Also... one should not celebrate American culture - perhaps in a different country - because of incidents like the mass shooting at Sandy Hook around the same time as this brutal rape in India?

smitra

(290 posts)
41. You have not answered the question(s) I raised in my post...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:30 PM
Sep 2013

Besides, if you were fully informed about the events in India following this brutal rape, you would have been aware that in the democratic system that is India today, thousands of people ... especially young people... came out and demonstrated, over an extended period of time, to the extent that the government was compelled to revise the country's laws regarding rape.

We did not see any similar demonstrations in this country ... certainly not to the extent in India... for a certain level of gun control that could keep our children safe in school.

India does not need the world to pontificate to it about its treatment of women. Speaking like this smacks of a 'my culture is better than yours' attitude. Attitudes like this should have ended with the demise of the imperialist era, the time of the 'white man's burden', when European countries believed it was their 'duty' to bring their 'civilization' to the world.

A culture has to realize its flaws from within to effect change. Just as sensible gun laws will not come about in America as a result of the world telling America how to act in this regard.

alp227

(32,044 posts)
21. And this is an achievement...how?
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:06 PM
Sep 2013

Sorry, I ain't buying into this self-congratulatory celebration.

Why should a damn BEAUTY PAGEANT be a sign of progress for South Asian Americans? When they've succeeded in many other sectors in the USA for years like in science, politics, the law, etc.?

This is a damn step BACKWARD to the days when women were expected to go to college to get a "Mrs. degree", be a stay-at-home mom while the husband is the breadwinner, and suck it up with sexual harassment if they worked at all (most likely as the secretary).

I could go on and risk violating Godwin's Law about how these pageants are PICKY with the definition of beauty, but you get my drift.

I miss "Unrec".

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
31. As was pointed out on Melissa Harris-Perry's show by an African-American former Miss America
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:11 PM
Sep 2013

After the 1960s the scholarship portion became incredibly important -- I had no idea. The woman in question is now a veterinarian.

God, when I think of what my mother would have said if I had wanted to compete in any sort of "beauty pageant"! We were as poor as could be, but for all Mom's sterling qualities I can say without qualification that she was an intellectual snob. Fairy princess dreams were not allowed and Santa did not exist. Boy did I feel subversive when I told my wee ones that Santa was going to visit!

JI7

(89,259 posts)
32. these Days Contestants end up spending as much if not more just to try to win these things
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:42 PM
Sep 2013

the "miss america" pageant might be different from the others through. i know "miss america" has always tried to stay kind of more conservative and 'traditional" .

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
49. There is a big difference between the Miss America and Miss U.S.A. pageants >>
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 01:16 AM
Sep 2013

Miss U.S.A. is based totally on beauty and poise .. not so much intellect.
Miss America is scholarship pageant .. based on scholastic ability and talent .. not so much on beauty. I just think it has more integrity than the Miss U.S.A. pageant and minus Donald Trump.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. You must see the video before you dismiss this....
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 02:13 PM
Sep 2013


Another milestone in that it was the first winner of Indian decent. (No longer is "Miss America" the aryan prototype.)

A return to Atlantic City after Sandy.
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
34. Of course. Vanessa Williams. One of those names that sounds familiar but you don't know why...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:02 PM
Sep 2013
http://pageantcenter.com/pageants1/pageant-winners/miss-america-1984-vanessa-williams-discussing-how-race-affected-her-experience-as-the-first-black-woman-to-win-that-title/

ON Edit: Read some of the racist comments on this YouTube crowning ceremony video.



I swear, some people live on hate.

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
44. 8 African Americans, according to Melissa Harris-Perry's guest
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:21 PM
Sep 2013

I found this:
Now almost 30 years later, on January 30, 2010, another black woman, Caressa Cameron, Miss Virginia, is the latest recipient of America’s most coveted pageant crown. While Cameron’s win in January 2010 did not elicit as much shock and surprise as Williams in 1983, it did make me (and I sure a number of other people of color) proud to see, yet another Black woman win the Miss America title. Since 1983 eight African American women have won the crown: Vanessa Williams, Miss America (1984), Suzette Charles, Miss America (1984), Debbye Turner, Miss America (1990), Marjorie Judith Vincent, Miss America (1991), Kimberly Aiken, Miss America (1994), Erika Harold, Miss America (2003), Erica Dunlap, Miss America (2004) and now, Ms. Cameron, Miss America (2010) That is an average of once every three years. This is quite remarkable given the fact that it was not until September 1970, that the first black woman, Cheryl Brown, Miss Iowa, competed in the national contest. The pageant has also had one Asian American winner, Angela Perez Baraquio, representing Hawaii who became Miss America 2001. The number of black contestants who have finished in the top five have been noteworthy as well.

As various black women have won the pageant, the question of who and what defines beauty has again entered the public discourse. Vanessa Williams's light skinned features, Suzette Charles biracial background, Debbye Turner's darker, yet Anglo looking features and Marjorie Vincent's classic black features were the subject of considerable debate and commentary within the African American community and the larger society. Some people went as far as to say that Debbye Turner was actually the first "black" Miss America due to the fact that she had “legitimately darker skin.” By the time Kimberly Aiken had won the crown in September 1993, such debates had largely subsided. This was most likely due to the novelty of having a black Miss America had disappeared. Black women were frequently if not routinely selected among hundreds of contestants. Moreover, collectively the African American women who had won the coveted title represented the entire spectrum of black beauty. In fact, the issue of skin color, though pronounced in black [and white] society prior to the 1960s, was much less of an issue by the last two decades of the 20th century.

http://www.blackpast.org/?q=perspectives/racial-politics-miss-america

Rhiannon12866

(205,729 posts)
45. Of course there have been, this is hardly anything new or unusual.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:27 PM
Sep 2013

And this young woman is of Indian descent. What is wrong with people?!

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