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elleng

(131,077 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:55 AM Sep 2013

SEC Moves Toward Mandate on CEO-Worker Pay Gap.

Source: nyt/ap

Federal regulators have moved toward requiring public companies to bring to light the difference in pay between their CEOs and ordinary employees.

The Securities and Exchange Commission voted 3-2 Wednesday to propose a rule that would compel companies to report that information publicly. Companies would have to report the ratio between their chief executive's annual compensation and the median, or midpoint, pay of employees.

Business interests vigorously oppose the requirement.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/09/18/us/politics/ap-us-sec-ceo-pay-.html?hp&_r=0

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SEC Moves Toward Mandate on CEO-Worker Pay Gap. (Original Post) elleng Sep 2013 OP
The SEC should vote to order an immediate 10:1 CEO/chairman to workers gap Koko Ware Sep 2013 #1
10:1 isn't realistic lark Sep 2013 #12
This is a good step Gothmog Sep 2013 #2
I agree. elleng Sep 2013 #3
I like this. K&R closeupready Sep 2013 #4
Perhaps if the gap is too large they can alter the rules the way shareholders vote cascadiance Sep 2013 #5
That's the way co-ops work. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #8
this will only make the information public ...companies will not be required to curtail pay srican69 Sep 2013 #6
Right, but elleng Sep 2013 #7
You are kidding right ? srican69 Sep 2013 #16
This would be helpful to educate the many Americans who vote Republican because they JDPriestly Sep 2013 #17
Cockroaches don't like the stark light of day shone upon them. AllyCat Sep 2013 #9
A welcome liberal action ... a plus for Obama libdem4life Sep 2013 #10
Business interests vigorously oppose the requirement. 90-percent Sep 2013 #11
The problem is figuring out what does and doesn't count as "pay" for CEOs (nt) Recursion Sep 2013 #13
True. They could include everything. Bonuses, etc. to everyone. Even perks like JDPriestly Sep 2013 #18
Interesting terminology "the difference in pay between their CEOs and ordinary employees" ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #14
This is a no brainer for those with brains. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2013 #15
Business interest vigorously oppose this... Lol glowing Sep 2013 #19
Yes!! Jake2413 Sep 2013 #20
Gee, why would they oppose that... I wonder. BootinUp Sep 2013 #21
 

Koko Ware

(107 posts)
1. The SEC should vote to order an immediate 10:1 CEO/chairman to workers gap
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:02 PM
Sep 2013

immediately. And watch the growth of workers now that the CEOS has more money to pay the workers instead of themelves.

And throw in a full coverage of health insurance for every single workers, both full and part-time.

Instead of grinding them out, take care of them.

lark

(23,151 posts)
12. 10:1 isn't realistic
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:17 PM
Sep 2013

It was 220:1 in the 70's and workers were doing well. Even 100:1 sounds good to me. Think of a $15 worker being "average", so $312,000 for the CEO. Obscenely high, yes, but think of all the CEO's making Tens of MILLIONS each year. I would love for the cap to be 100:1 instead of CEO's making millions while bankrupting their companies and having their workers rely on Medicaid because they don't make enough to pay for their insurance.

Of course, none of this seems realistic given today's climate where the rich are taking everythi ng from their workers and giving next to nothing in return except pink slips and cuts in the workers hours.

Gothmog

(145,496 posts)
2. This is a good step
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:17 PM
Sep 2013

I am a corporate lawyer and I approve of the SEC's step here. Technically, the SEC can change the fiduciary duties of a board or the CEO to the shareholders but the SEC can mandate disclosure. This is a good step.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
5. Perhaps if the gap is too large they can alter the rules the way shareholders vote
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:31 PM
Sep 2013

so that it isn't based on the amount of stock owned, but one vote per stockholder, that would make the process more "democratic" that those at the top that own the lion's share of "controlling" shares of stock would be afraid of crossing as a means of keeping them from abusing salary differences as well as other policies they might have. That or the rules change for that company when that threshold is crossed where the board must be composed of members with rules like they have in Germany, where half of the board represent the employees of the company, which basically would in effect institutionalize a labor union like force within the company.

Probably need legislation from congress rather than just the SEC to get this sort of change to happen, but teeth like that might be what is necessary to get the corporate bums from screwing us over the way they've been doing.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. That's the way co-ops work.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:48 PM
Sep 2013

One member, one vote. Regardless of how much money the member has in the co-op.

elleng

(131,077 posts)
7. Right, but
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:39 PM
Sep 2013

it will provide information to their stockholders, who could require them to curtail pay.

It is a step, as Gothmog said.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
16. You are kidding right ?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 02:34 PM
Sep 2013

Retail Stock holders have no weight ... even a big investor like Icahn have relatively little impact in terms of votes. So you can forget about mom and pop investor...

Institutional investors (Mutual funds like Fidelity, Vanguards etc) who have the heft needed to fight are scared - ask why ??? they need business from the corporations to manage their 401k and manage the private wealth of the bigger share holders..


The only institutional investor who has asked tough questions in past has been TIAA-CREF .. as it gets its money from teachers and academic staff.

there you go .. I have just burst your fantasy bubble.

We had a full lecture on this topic in our corporate ethics class.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. This would be helpful to educate the many Americans who vote Republican because they
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:02 PM
Sep 2013

are in denial about the lack of economic fairness in our system as it exists. It has no legal clout other than to require disclosure. And the companies will think of all kinds of ways to hide the truth about what they are doing, but it will at least bring reality home to many Americans who are blissfully ignorant about what is happening to them and who they are voting for.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. A welcome liberal action ... a plus for Obama
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:00 PM
Sep 2013

A lot of things we can gripe about, so here's one, even if just a token, for our side.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
11. Business interests vigorously oppose the requirement.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

I would think they would be proud of how well compensated there executives are.

Their super human superiority is well reflected in their stratospheric compensation. Don't businesses want the wold to know they are run by the best of the best? Anybody that makes the massive money corporate execs do certainly warrant it by their superior talents in everything, don't they?

-90% Jimmy



JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. True. They could include everything. Bonuses, etc. to everyone. Even perks like
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

health insurance and retirement funds.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
14. Interesting terminology "the difference in pay between their CEOs and ordinary employees"
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 02:10 PM
Sep 2013

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Almost defines CEOs as NOT ordinary . . .

like that is news . . . , but a welcome definition/distinction from a regulatory board doncha think?

Times might be a changing - I certainly hope so.

CC

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,138 posts)
15. This is a no brainer for those with brains.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 02:17 PM
Sep 2013

These are "Public" companies. They should be completely transparent since the market influences beyond the scope of one single business.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
19. Business interest vigorously oppose this... Lol
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:18 PM
Sep 2013

Well of course the greedy bastards don't want the lowly wage slave to realize that their wage cut, time cut, extra work load, and shitty benefits don't make sense when the top dog who is supposed to be making the company money, is taking so much compensation.

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