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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:01 PM Sep 2013

More than 50 killed in attack in Baghdad Shi'ite stronghold

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - More than 50 people were killed in a triple bombing that targeted a tent filled with mourners in Baghdad's Shi'ite Muslim stronghold of Sadr City on Saturday, police and medical sources said.

Police said a car bomb went off near the tent where a funeral was being held, a suicide bomber driving a car then blew himself up, and a third explosion followed as police, ambulances and firefighter were gathering at the scene.



Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/09/21/uk-iraq-violence-baghdad-idUKBRE98K08620130921

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More than 50 killed in attack in Baghdad Shi'ite stronghold (Original Post) dipsydoodle Sep 2013 OP
Looks like Iraq is WORST off than it was under Saddam bigdarryl Sep 2013 #1
I don't think there's ever been much doubt about that dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #2
And it's getting to the point where it looks like the dark years of 2005, 2006, 2007 again. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #4
"Stronghold?" WTF? They mean neighborhood? David__77 Sep 2013 #3
'Stronghold' only refers to something humans have (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #5
Also... David__77 Sep 2013 #7
Suicide bombings are something else Iraqis have that the US doesn't. Igel Sep 2013 #9
Think back a decade. Igel Sep 2013 #8
It looks retaliatory... fujiyama Sep 2013 #6
Imagine replacing the words "Sunni" & "Shiite" with Methodist & Presbyterian 7962 Sep 2013 #10
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. Looks like Iraq is WORST off than it was under Saddam
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:04 PM
Sep 2013

And of course the media is ignoring what is going on in that country

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. I don't think there's ever been much doubt about that
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:09 PM
Sep 2013

other than by those incapable of rational thinking.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. And it's getting to the point where it looks like the dark years of 2005, 2006, 2007 again.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:26 PM
Sep 2013

This is largely a sectarian civil war and closely related to what's going on in Syria. Many of those Al Qaeda types in Syria got their hands-on training in Iraq a few years ago.

It looks like Assad-Maliki-Iran v. Syria rebel-Iraq rebels-Saudi Arabia-Qatar-Turkey

David__77

(23,456 posts)
7. Also...
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:50 PM
Sep 2013

"a place that serves as the center of a group, as of militants or of persons holding a controversial viewpoint..."

I think that that is to somehow frame this (unintentionally or not) as something other than an attack on a residential neighborhood. "Neighborhood" is what people in the US have, but somehow Iraqis have "strongholds."

Igel

(35,337 posts)
9. Suicide bombings are something else Iraqis have that the US doesn't.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:46 PM
Sep 2013

Esp. along sectarian lines.

The neighborhoods are also nicely segregated, thanks to gun-point "ethnic" cleansing. This allows neighborhoods to function as points of sectarian organization, so that a Sunni neighborhood is much more likely to be a safe place for Sunnis to manufacture car bombs than, say, in Sadr City. And Sadr City would be a far more likely place to find a militant Shi'ite organization that goes all 'splody on Sunni mosque attendees than, say, Tikrit.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
8. Think back a decade.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:43 PM
Sep 2013

Sadr City was a large Shi'ite slum.

During the war it was Sadr's base of operations for his part in the sectarian war. Sunnis were rare there before; then checkpoints were set up and all Sunnis purged, making it a stronghold of support for Sadr and a stronghold--in the strictest military sense, with razor wire "protecting" it from retaliatory strikes--for Shi'ite Muslims. In some sense it was a ghetto, but a militarized one.

The term "stronghold," like "ghetto," can be derogatory. It is not dehumanizing. In 2005-11 "stronghold" wasn't even derogatory, just factual. And it mostly likely remains an apt description to the present. (Now it's more likely that Sunnis will be in ghettoes, all things considered.)

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
6. It looks retaliatory...
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 03:52 PM
Sep 2013

There was a bombing that killed Sunnis the other day. It's constant back and forth violence - a good reminder of why we should do as much as we can to extricate our selves from that part of the world (and not get involved in places like Syria).

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
10. Imagine replacing the words "Sunni" & "Shiite" with Methodist & Presbyterian
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 05:32 PM
Sep 2013

Sounds stupid doesnt it. And makes as much sense. They're both Muslims worshipping the same God. Idiots.

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