How Boehner Is Quietly Working To Defuse The Debt Limit Fight
Source: TPM
With the government shut down and his back against the wall, Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) is quietly putting out signals that he'll defuse the coming threat of a debt default in the only feasible way: by enlisting Democrats.
According to leaks by anonymous House Republicans to the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN, Boehner has privately told colleagues he won't permit the first ever default on the country's debt and might lift the borrowing limit with Democratic votes if necessary. In other words, he's willing to break the so-called Hastert Rule and bring up a bill that lacks the support of a majority of House Republicans.
"Anything that is going to pass the Senate and get signed by President Obama will certainly get Democratic votes in the House," a senior House GOP aide told TPM.
That Boehner permitted this leak compromises his position that the debt limit won't be raised ahead of the Oct. 17 deadline without reforms attached. And it opens up a pathway to not only averting a default crisis but also ending the ongoing government shutdown. Although it's not clear what his endgame is, a single bill to reopen the government and avert default, without any strings attached, would likely pass the House with a mix of Democratic and Republican votes, along with the Senate and be signed into law by President Barack Obama.
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Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)And saying to himself, wait a minute ... I think I screwed something up here, I wasn't supposed to be the one being held hostage.
ffr
(22,671 posts)He's a snake.
Dems, keep moving forward with procedural moves to bypass this roadblock to our economy.
babylonsister
(171,092 posts)We want this resolved. Let's do it!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)babylonsister
(171,092 posts)Cha
(297,692 posts)at that big ol fat elephant digging his own grave. tsk
I read something yesterday here.. from a repub via fb..
"What is the goal of all this? I'm a high income, pro-business, gun owning, truck driving patriotic American and the Republicans have completely lost me. Is the strategy to just go for the kooks now?"
h/t Skraxx http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3785618
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)...Then hope he knows how to read it.
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)marble falls
(57,241 posts)The former Republican speakers rule, that you cant bring legislation to the House floor without a majority of GOP votes, is cited as the reason Boehner cant end the shutdown. But Hastert tells Eleanor Clift its a non-entityand if we had to work with Democrats, we did.
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Theres been a lot said in recent days about the so-called Hastert Rule. It is cited as the main reason why House Speaker John Boehner wont allow a vote to fund the government with no Obamacare strings attachedunder the rule, no legislation can be brought to the floor without a majority of Republican votes. But the rules namesake, former House speaker Denny Hastert, told The Daily Beast on Wednesday, The Hastert Rule never really existed. Its a non-entity as far as Im concerned.
Dennis Hastert
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He explained that at the 2006 press conference where he is credited with instituting the rule, he was speaking generally and philosophically. A reporter asked if Hastert, who was having trouble getting an immigration reform bill out of committee and building support in the GOP conference, couldnt get Democrats to work with him. The genial speaker replied that relying on the other party for the bulk of votes is something I would not generally do, a fairly benign statement, as he remembers it now, that appears to have morphed into an ironclad rule. Generally speaking, I needed to have a majority of my majority, at least half of my conference. This wasnt a rule. I was speaking philosophically at the time
The Hastert Rule is kind of a misnomer.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/03/denny-hastert-disses-the-hastert-rule-it-never-really-existed.html
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)marble falls
(57,241 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It's ironic.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Pay no mind to the man in the behind the curtain
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)hasn't gone away. I almost feel sorry for him (but not quite). Without "democratic support", he wouldn't be able to find his way out with a map and a flashlight.
bucolic_frolic
(43,296 posts)in other headlines Boehner is said preaching party unity
and seeing no way out of this dead end
The Founding Father's feared parties - factions as they called them -
and that is the problem here
The House should recess for a day and randomly pair small groups of
the opposing parties for a real sit down lunch, maybe 5 from each
party in a group
Maybe they would understand each other
Then the party leaders should find some part of the debt issue that is
less controversial and hold a vote where all members are free to vote their
consciences
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)That would be nice if the rethugs could be believed.
But the drunken old sot can't be trusted on anything.
There's as much of a chance of him defusing this situation as there is of me discovering how to make chocolate air.
Boehner may be using the government shutdown to appease teaparty so he can raise the dedt ceiling by majority vote.
Still doesn't change the fact he is weakest speaker ever.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)that republicans will end the shutdown if Obama permanently ends negotiations on the TPP.
It's a win-win for everyone but the 1%; but of course, this could never happen, because many republicans want this trade agreement just as much as Obama does.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)Thanks for a bit of blue sky...the TPP is really horrific, if one wants to learn more: go to
www.exposethetpp.org
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)If I were the Dems, I'd be thinking
Qutzupalotl
(14,331 posts)Wait. He may be crazy and stupid, but he's not suicidal.
Wait. He may be crazy, stupid and suicidal, but he's not about to devalue the dollar and destroy the only thing that gives his miserable life any meaning.