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mia

(8,362 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:40 AM Oct 2013

Tea Party Lawmaker Says Debt Deal Worth Yielding on Obamacare

Source: Bloomberg News

U.S. Representative Dennis Ross, a Florida Republican, said he would support a broad spending deal that didn’t include changes to the health-care law, becoming the first Tea Party-backed House lawmaker to publicly back off the fight that has shut down the government for five days.

Ross, ranked among the House’s most conservative members by both the Club for Growth and the American Conservative Union, said he shifted his position because the shutdown hasn’t resulted in changes to the Affordable Care Act, which started Oct. 1, the same day government funding ran out. The shutdown also could hurt the party, he said.

“We’ve lost the CR battle,” Ross, referring to the continuing resolution to authorize government spending, said in an interview. “We need to move on and take whatever we can find in the debt limit.”

Other lawmakers backed by the limited-government Tea Party movement, including Republican Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, are refusing to budge. Republican House Speaker John Boehner said yesterday the way to end the government shutdown would be for Democrats to negotiate and accept changes that would produce “fairness” under President Barack Obama’s signature health-care law, also known as Obamacare....


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-04/tea-party-s-ross-says-debt-worth-yielding-on-obamacare.html

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Tea Party Lawmaker Says Debt Deal Worth Yielding on Obamacare (Original Post) mia Oct 2013 OP
Unfortunately, Ross is my representative. okwmember Oct 2013 #1
I don't go to the commissary often, but this is terrible for the sammytko Oct 2013 #10
Please send an email to your Jeff Murdoch Oct 2013 #22
Eh, no. xfundy Oct 2013 #27
Was this their real goal all along? To gut SS/MC and BLAME it on the President & ACA? Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #2
There are no "Tea Party Lawmaker"s underpants Oct 2013 #3
Exactly! I call them what they are: teabaggers... like carpet baggers only worse! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #13
I believe he's our Representative - and that he had no opponent last election. We're East of Tampa 24601 Oct 2013 #4
This STILL sounds to me like blackmail. pangaia Oct 2013 #5
It is blackmail. Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #7
Yep. I was thinking this very thing this morning, before......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #8
I agree. Liberalynn Oct 2013 #23
As much as I do not like teabaggers, I sent this guy a thank you via email. The more Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #6
There is no time to negotiate a broad spending deal. DCBob Oct 2013 #9
There isn't even time for the Republicans to agree on a proposal Jim Lane Oct 2013 #20
The only possibility is that they would revive some previous plan that was near agreement. DCBob Oct 2013 #25
A crack in he wall? marble falls Oct 2013 #11
I wouldn't support any deal they'd be willing to make, regardless of the ACA. leveymg Oct 2013 #12
Yep! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #14
It's not just the GOP that needs to know that it has a base messaging it. leveymg Oct 2013 #15
I Agree, Sir: Not So Much as the Shadow Of a Sausage Can they Be Allowed To Get By This The Magistrate Oct 2013 #16
Sounds like a quote from A. Lincoln leveymg Oct 2013 #17
I Forget The Fellow's Name, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2013 #18
Recurrent bouts of sanity from the region's politicos seem to be fleeting. leveymg Oct 2013 #19
It's a Crack! Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #21
This coward is also my Rep. thing is out Eastern parts are TP but this is actually a blue county BiminiTwisted Oct 2013 #24
He knows he's gotta get something. He just doesn't know what that even is. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #26

okwmember

(345 posts)
1. Unfortunately, Ross is my representative.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:21 AM
Oct 2013

But stories like this show that public pressure is helping. 2 months ago he was itching to close the government down. Ross's district includes a lot of people who work at MacDill AFB and while the military are receiving their paychecks, up to 1500 civilian workers have been furloughed. Also conveniences like the commissary are closed which puts a crimp in the wallets of the military families and retirees in the area.

I also think he's only hoping to get something out of the debt ceiling fight. A local article I read mentioned that while he thinks Repugs should refocus their fight on the debt ceiling, he also said he doesn't think they should default. I hope he sees the handwriting on the wall and is just looking for a face saving way to get out of this. In the meantime, let's keep the pressure on these assholes.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
10. I don't go to the commissary often, but this is terrible for the
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:49 AM
Oct 2013

Hundreds of elderly that frequent the ones in San Antonio. It is always packed with shoppers.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
27. Eh, no.
Sun Oct 6, 2013, 11:28 AM
Oct 2013

Repigs caused the shutdown, and are trying to reopen parts of gov't a little at a time, hoping to kill the social safety net. I do agree with writing to congress, but only to tell them to quit holding the nation hostage.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
2. Was this their real goal all along? To gut SS/MC and BLAME it on the President & ACA?
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013


Was their hour late insanity regarding the ACA, which was not going to be rolled back, little more than a smokescreen for their real goal of using their ACA obstructionism as a wedge to revive a "Grand Bargain" gutting SS and Medicare, and which they could then falsely portray as being Obama's fault, and somehow, illogically associate the cuts with "Obamacare"?
















mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
13. Exactly! I call them what they are: teabaggers... like carpet baggers only worse!
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:25 AM
Oct 2013

They have no intention of "governing." The only objective is to keep power, get more, and RULE!

24601

(3,962 posts)
4. I believe he's our Representative - and that he had no opponent last election. We're East of Tampa
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:26 AM
Oct 2013

proper and the district line runs a block or two away from where we live.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
8. Yep. I was thinking this very thing this morning, before.........
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:38 AM
Oct 2013

I even logged on to DU. Extortion is extortion and terrorism is terrorism whether it's on the continuing resolution or the debt ceiling.

I personally don't want them fucking with social security, Medicare, OR Medicaid. Democrat or Republican, just KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF!.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
23. I agree.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:08 PM
Oct 2013

If they agree to pass a clean CR and clean debt ceiling only if we promise them something in a Grand Bargain after, they are still expecting to be rewarded for their bad behavior.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
6. As much as I do not like teabaggers, I sent this guy a thank you via email. The more
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

public support he gets on this issue, the more likely he will stand behind it. We need the crazies right now.

https://dennisross.house.gov/forms/writeyourrep/?Denied=true

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
9. There is no time to negotiate a broad spending deal.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:46 AM
Oct 2013

It's insane to think this congress can come together on something like that in the next two weeks.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
20. There isn't even time for the Republicans to agree on a proposal
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

I read this point on another DU thread and it makes sense. There are divisions within the Republican caucus. They would need several weeks just to come up with a plan that would be their opening position in any negotiations.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. The only possibility is that they would revive some previous plan that was near agreement.
Sun Oct 6, 2013, 08:42 AM
Oct 2013

Then just modify it a bit and ram it through both chambers. I doubt they could do it but they might.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. I wouldn't support any deal they'd be willing to make, regardless of the ACA.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:54 AM
Oct 2013

They're a minority of the minority party in America. Fuck them. They just have to deal with that fact and move on. Wasn't that what we had to do with Bush and his wars?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
15. It's not just the GOP that needs to know that it has a base messaging it.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:43 AM
Oct 2013

Whatever the Republicans might want along these lines, we better make damn sure our Representatives don't end up giving them, even under pressure.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
16. I Agree, Sir: Not So Much as the Shadow Of a Sausage Can they Be Allowed To Get By This
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013

They deserve, and must receive, nothing but the contempt and scorn and condemnation of the country.

"This war was got up drunk, but will have to be settled sober."

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
18. I Forget The Fellow's Name, Sir
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

But it was some Confederate politico afflicted by recovered sanity as the thing began to dwindle down around '64 --- at least that is what I think I remember.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
19. Recurrent bouts of sanity from the region's politicos seem to be fleeting.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

But, unfortunately, their nihilistic sentiments are no longer quarantined to the South. Poor Wisconsin, for instance.

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