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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:21 PM Oct 2013

Dennis Ross, GOP Rep: 'Pride' Is Why Republicans Won't Budge On Government Shutdown

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- With the government shutdown in its fifth day, many Republicans have conceded the fight is no longer about Obamacare. Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.) added his name to the list on Saturday, saying the matter now boils down to "pride."

“Republicans have to realize how many significant gains we’ve made over the last three years, and we have, not only in cutting spending but in really turning the tide on other things," Ross told The New York Times. "We can’t lose all that when there’s no connection now between the shutdown and the funding of Obamacare."

"I think now it’s a lot about pride," he added.

The fight over keeping the government open began with Republicans insisting that any funding bill include anti-Obamacare provisions, starting with a full-fledged campaign led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) to defund the health care law. When that plan was rejected by the Senate, House Republicans offered a series of spending bills that continued to chip away at Obamacare; their final offer included a one-year delay of the law's individual mandate and a ban on federal health care subsidies to members of Congress and their staffs.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/dennis-ross-government-shutdown_n_4050231.html



Republicans repeatedly, repeatedly admit on the record that they shutdown the government in order to "get respect" or in this case, "pride," which brings to mind Gingrich being ticked about where he sat on Air Force One. Yet, the media bends over backwards to portray this in false equivalency terms even though Republicans are contradictory about what it is they want from a negotiation with the President. Now, Boehner just says he wants to sit at the negotiating table with the President. What for? A photo op.

I wish we were making this up, but Republicans are their own worst advocates. If only the media would just call this for the farce that it is.
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Dennis Ross, GOP Rep: 'Pride' Is Why Republicans Won't Budge On Government Shutdown (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2013 OP
Well, good, because you know the old saying 'Pride goeth before the fall' Siwsan Oct 2013 #1
Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. Liberal Veteran Oct 2013 #5
Amen Paulie Oct 2013 #10
Pride? Cirque du So-What Oct 2013 #2
These People, Sir, Sound More And More Like A Gang Of Street-Corner Hoodlums The Magistrate Oct 2013 #3
or Walter White grantcart Oct 2013 #15
Respect from who, they already have their base tied up, respect from those furlowed from their Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #4
Republicans malletgirl02 Oct 2013 #6
Hubris is more like it. Kablooie Oct 2013 #7
When you don't have rationality what else is left? Happyhippychick Oct 2013 #8
Ticked Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #9
Bloomberg: Rep. Ross says EXACTLY what he wants: a DEAL with cuts to SS,MC . . . : Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #11
He can kiss goodbye a whole bunch of campaign contributions then! nt alp227 Oct 2013 #16
Hey, I don't know much about the Bible.. but, doesn't it say in there Cha Oct 2013 #12
They should read Proverbs 16:18 of their Holy Bible. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #13
Proverbs 16:18 Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #14
And the Republicans damn sure have a haughy spirit as frosting to cover their pride cake n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #22
The Republicans adieu Oct 2013 #17
I think Dennis Ross meant their owner's pride Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #18
Pride breeds the tyrant The Wizard Oct 2013 #19
I think he really wanted to say, "white pride." PSPS Oct 2013 #20
Dumber than a mud fence, BarbaRosa Oct 2013 #21
Fine. I got yer pride right here. jmowreader Oct 2013 #23
+1 Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #24

Siwsan

(26,292 posts)
1. Well, good, because you know the old saying 'Pride goeth before the fall'
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:25 PM
Oct 2013

And, I also recall the pride is one of the 7 Deadly Sins.

They just seem to be a little too transparent, for their own good.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
5. Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013

I can live with the former, but will accept the latter for the republicants.

Cirque du So-What

(25,984 posts)
2. Pride?
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:26 PM
Oct 2013

Pride in being a misanthropic idiot? As Denis Leary said at the end of his little ditty, 'I'm an asshole and proud of it!'

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Respect from who, they already have their base tied up, respect from those furlowed from their
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:31 PM
Oct 2013

Jobs and will not get a paycheck, would not get respect from me. Now if Boehner had taken a stand against Cruz and his stupid tactic he would have gained some respect from me, not on his policy but he could have appeared stronger in his Speaker position.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
11. Bloomberg: Rep. Ross says EXACTLY what he wants: a DEAL with cuts to SS,MC . . . :
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:28 PM
Oct 2013

He admits that the Republican obstructionism on the ACA was NOT really about the ACA, but was done to "maintain credibility with their base" because they had "run on repealing Obamacare".

Ross is NOT one of the (non-existent) so-called Republican "moderates", but is a Tea Party favorite who has one of the "most conservative" records from the Club for Growth and the American Conservative Union.

The Bloomberg article on Ross clearly shows what the purpose of this entire shutdown drama is. And it is NOT about "Obamacare". It is Shock Doctrine Disacter Capitalism at its worst. It is about setting up a phony crisis in order to make a "compromise" slashing SS, MC, and other social safety net programs.




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Cha

(297,692 posts)
12. Hey, I don't know much about the Bible.. but, doesn't it say in there
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:19 PM
Oct 2013
that "Pride goeth before a FALL"?
 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
17. The Republicans
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:19 PM
Oct 2013

Have no pride, cannot be given pride, do not deserve any pride, should not be allowed to be close to where pride can be obtained, must have whatever current amount of pride that they have be ground into dust, must have whatever actions in the future that they do which could have a shred of pride be destroyed and buried, and be permanently from now until the end of days be mocked and denigrated for having no pride and none shall ever be bestowed on that sorry lot. Fuck them and everyone who support them with a rusty railroad spike. There.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
18. I think Dennis Ross meant their owner's pride
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:22 PM
Oct 2013

GOP politicians do not do anything unless their their owners tell them to do it.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
23. Fine. I got yer pride right here.
Sun Oct 6, 2013, 03:39 AM
Oct 2013

Put all the fuckin' Republicans in the House gym with a pride of lions borrowed from the National Zoo, and solve this shit in a way that can't come back.

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