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TomClash

(11,344 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 06:23 AM Oct 2013

JPMorgan Clients in Cash as Schwab’s Options Hedge Default

Source: Bloomberg

With the deadline for avoiding a U.S. default looming, investors from Boston to Bangalore are moving to cash, extending the maturities of their short-term Treasury holdings and buying options to help protect themselves should stock and bond prices tumble.

Some JPMorgan Chase & Co. private bank clients are raising cash while others are dumping Treasury bills with maturities beyond the Oct. 17 debt ceiling deadline for longer-dated bonds. Stewart Capital Advisors LLC in Indiana, Pennsylvania, favors insurance companies, technology stocks and health-care providers, which now have lower valuations. Money is flowing out of an exchange-traded fund that tracks American banks and into overseas equities.

While most investors say a default will be averted, the potential for calamity should political leaders fail to renew U.S. borrowing authority before it runs out is moving some to take measures to safeguard their assets. A Treasury Department report on Oct. 3 said consequences would be “catastrophic” should the U.S. fail to make payments, including higher interest rates, lower investment and slow growth for decades to come.

“We want to protect capital first,” said Kevin Kearns, a fixed-income portfolio manager at Boston-based Loomis Sayles & Co., which manages $188 billion. While Loomis is forecasting that a default will be avoided, the back-and-forth negotiations may provoke some investors to sell assets. “We have our shopping list ready if things go on sale,” Kearns said.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-10/jpmorgan-clients-in-cash-as-schwab-sees-options-hedging-default.html



The strategy so far seems to be to move to the long bond.
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JPMorgan Clients in Cash as Schwab’s Options Hedge Default (Original Post) TomClash Oct 2013 OP
im about 75% hedged rdking647 Oct 2013 #1
"He hee. Sneer. Smirk." - Evangelical RepubliBaggers Against America (0 Berlum Oct 2013 #2
Squirm fuckers squirm. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #3
Oh boy -- "We have our shopping list ready if things go on sale" KurtNYC Oct 2013 #4
Since the market hasn't reacted enough yet, they need to publish these warnings Duer 157099 Oct 2013 #5
Damage is done - permanently methinks. ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #6
China has reacted, dumping short term bonds. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #7

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
5. Since the market hasn't reacted enough yet, they need to publish these warnings
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:42 PM
Oct 2013

Right? Get everyone to go to cash so the market will dip low enough for them to get bargains.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
6. Damage is done - permanently methinks.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 03:27 PM
Oct 2013

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Enough investors are scared to not trust US bonds, etc., to put their future investments elsewhere.

This scare has happened before, and investors realize it will happen again,

and maybe not just a "scare".

So, however this farce ends, US securities will not be a favored investment.

I suspect, even if all is "well" in a month or so,

Many will be investing their $$ elsewhere.

When it comes to hurting the USA,

Rethugs outdid Osama;

by far.

CC

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. China has reacted, dumping short term bonds.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:41 PM
Oct 2013

Even if this gets settled tomorrow, the already discussed threat of doing it all over again in a few weeks
is not helping markets.

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