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alp227

(32,065 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:15 PM Oct 2013

Ted Cruz confronts President Obama at White House

Source: Politico

Sen. Ted Cruz confronted President Barack Obama over his health care law during a meeting at the White House Friday attended by dozens of GOP senators.

Cruz told Obama that any deal to reopen the government must also provide relief for those negatively affected by Obamacare. In a long gaggle with reporters, Cruz did not use the word “defund” to describe his aspirations for changes to the health care law, but said he wants “substantial” changes.

“I told the president exactly the same thing I have told you here today: That we need to work together and fund the government and at the same time provide substantial relief to the millions of people who are hurting because of Obamacare, who are losing their jobs, being forced into part-time work and losing their health insurance,” Cruz said. “If the outcome doesn’t impact people who are struggling, who are hurting because of Obamacare, then I don’t think it would be a good outcome.”

Asked to give a breakdown of the exchange between Cruz and Obama, White House press secretary Jay Carney simply responded: “No.”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-confronts-barack-obama-government-shutdown-98197.html

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Ted Cruz confronts President Obama at White House (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2013 OP
That fucking idiot doesnt deserve a meeting with the President. bunnies Oct 2013 #1
Cruze kardonb Oct 2013 #24
Exactly! cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #38
I agree, JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #65
I'm beginning to wonder if this guy has all his marbles. Laurian Oct 2013 #2
Look at him.. busterbrown Oct 2013 #3
He Has A Napoleon Complex TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #4
Exactly. AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #10
I don't think he's delusional. sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #37
As the son of a Dominionist, he is the definition of delusional. nt Vilis Veritas Oct 2013 #41
I'm with You on this! Delusional is Ted Cruz's norm esp. when he looks in the mirror. hue Oct 2013 #56
Cruz is def a few bricks short of a load!! hue Oct 2013 #57
Well said! n/t coeur_de_lion Oct 2013 #43
How dare you, sir. flt rsk Oct 2013 #42
Too many marbles and The Wizard Oct 2013 #68
I've said elsewhere, he always looks like he just finished crying, and that's his fake brave face yurbud Oct 2013 #71
I would love to have heard the President's response to that little shit. phleshdef Oct 2013 #5
I suspect his response was along the lines of Diego_Native 2012 Oct 2013 #66
Obama to Cruz: "Nuts!" nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #6
Exactly should have. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #20
"An' I told him, I said, 'You're not the boss of me!' an' he said nolabear Oct 2013 #7
People really need to read up on the Constitution as well as the checks & balances of our 24601 Oct 2013 #13
Oh Sweetie, it was a joke. I know about the tripartite governmental system. nolabear Oct 2013 #25
And Obama responded... cui bono Oct 2013 #8
lol Cha Oct 2013 #45
You and I both know that our president was calm and polite. efhmc Oct 2013 #9
But in my imagination the President said "Talk to the hand" Heather MC Oct 2013 #12
I like it. efhmc Oct 2013 #72
Welcome to my world Heather MC Oct 2013 #74
Dear Mr. President.... Plucketeer Oct 2013 #11
President Obama should have said “Take off, you hoser!” n/t Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #14
Here is a video of Cruz and Boehner. yourout Oct 2013 #31
I own the VHS version of this movie! BillyRibs Oct 2013 #52
Jay Carney simply responded "NO" yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #15
The Constitution provides a process for making and changing laws subterranean Oct 2013 #16
Republicans really shouldn't try to pretend to care about people. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #17
Definitely. It was teabaggery that laid people off to avoid the ACA. The GOP fights wages and jobs. freshwest Oct 2013 #44
Ted Cruz is a good example munster69 Oct 2013 #18
Ted Cruz anointed by RW pastors declaring War on Secular Gov't/Gay Genocide in America (June 2013): blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #19
Taliban 2.0 Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #21
Obamacare is not CruzNoCare bucolic_frolic Oct 2013 #22
Cruz Came To The Meeting Armed With No Facts DallasNE Oct 2013 #23
What Obama said to Cruz: The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #26
Plonker = dimwit, dope, idiot, moron, wally, pillock, dunderhead, idiot Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2013 #27
yep 5 years from now people will be asking, What ever happen to that Canadian Cat who wasn't into Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #30
He is a piece of work..... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #28
He sounds like a tyrannical baboon Iliyah Oct 2013 #29
If Cruz is so concerned about people losing their jobs, why did he carry on with his plan to Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #32
cruz finally emerges from his batshit crazy cave and has no clue just how successful ACA is... Javaman Oct 2013 #33
Cruz doesn't deserve the dignity of a response. n/t mia Oct 2013 #34
Did Cruz really mean this part? - LiberalElite Oct 2013 #35
people "hurting because of Obamacare" WTF? The program has just begun wordpix Oct 2013 #36
It's a prepared Republican talking point. CBHagman Oct 2013 #48
+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #60
Which reminds me of Godfather II OldRedneck Oct 2013 #39
i bet that`s went down.... madrchsod Oct 2013 #46
Appealing to the stupid few is never a good political strategy. Coyotl Oct 2013 #40
Ted Cruzzz fucking lies.. why would I believe anything Cha Oct 2013 #47
This is Cruz on crack. SoapBox Oct 2013 #49
I hope he is the nominee against Hillary in 2016. cosmicone Oct 2013 #50
But he wasn't born in the US, so he's not going to take the risk. nt alp227 Oct 2013 #53
Obama should have had him arrested for treason. gopiscrap Oct 2013 #51
And deported to Cuba. SwankyXomb Oct 2013 #67
Cruz has too high an opinion of himself. Beacool Oct 2013 #54
how does a dignified person respond to a raving hopemountain Oct 2013 #55
Who has the ACA hurt? mdbl Oct 2013 #58
The only people hurting from Obamacare are the people who can't get it because of asshat Pubs MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #59
Actually, the movie that comes to mind for me with Cruz is "Up" Maeve Oct 2013 #61
This is a very misleading title. The Senators were invited to the WH. The title makes it sound like jwirr Oct 2013 #62
Okay cruz ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #63
Ok Ted, pass a law that mandates benefits paid hourly regardless of hrs /wk on point Oct 2013 #64
"Confronts" ?? Really? I doubt a troll like Cruz would have the stones to do so. Myrina Oct 2013 #69
He is a fearmongering grandstander. olddad56 Oct 2013 #70
Confront? Rafael, why didn't you arrest the president?? jsr Oct 2013 #73
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
1. That fucking idiot doesnt deserve a meeting with the President.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:20 PM
Oct 2013

He deserves no attention from the WH. Period.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. I'm beginning to wonder if this guy has all his marbles.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:21 PM
Oct 2013

I've no doubt he's an asshole, but it appears he's also a little unhinged.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
10. Exactly.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

A legend in his own mind, a self-perceived fighter for the people...

in other words, someone who just ain't all there.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
37. I don't think he's delusional.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:54 PM
Oct 2013

I think he's just another demagoguing two-bit sociopathic grifter with fantasies about being the President of the United States. George Bush really lowered that bar for Republican aspirants.

flt rsk

(92 posts)
42. How dare you, sir.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:05 PM
Oct 2013

Do you have any idea how important he thinks he is? Just who do you think he thinks he is? Oh, look, a butterfly.

The Wizard

(12,552 posts)
68. Too many marbles and
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 05:00 PM
Oct 2013

too many oars in the water. He should leave the Senate and star in a John Waters movie.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
71. I've said elsewhere, he always looks like he just finished crying, and that's his fake brave face
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:53 PM
Oct 2013

after someone says cheer up.

Kind of like Mitch McConnel's just woke up and is surprised to still be alive look.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
5. I would love to have heard the President's response to that little shit.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:22 PM
Oct 2013

To be a fly on the wall...

nolabear

(41,995 posts)
7. "An' I told him, I said, 'You're not the boss of me!' an' he said
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:23 PM
Oct 2013

'Actually, Raphael, I kind of am.'"

24601

(3,963 posts)
13. People really need to read up on the Constitution as well as the checks & balances of our
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:30 PM
Oct 2013

government. Neither Branch of Government is the boss of any other. Congress is the only Branch that can remove officials of the other two in addition to its own members.

nolabear

(41,995 posts)
25. Oh Sweetie, it was a joke. I know about the tripartite governmental system.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:05 PM
Oct 2013

Hence the "kind of". He's the president. I'm sorry I was too obtuse. Happy?

(Edited 'cause this poor ignorant little thing couldn't spell tripartite either. Happier? )

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
8. And Obama responded...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:26 PM
Oct 2013

"Do you remember that fly that buzzed around me when I was trying to conduct my business of the day, you know, during that interview?..."

efhmc

(14,733 posts)
9. You and I both know that our president was calm and polite.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

This is what I expect of him with anyone he has to deal with, foreign or domestics crazies.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
74. Welcome to my world
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oct 2013

Keep your hands and feet in the vehicle at all times
Enter at your own Risk
LOL

yuiyoshida

(41,867 posts)
15. Jay Carney simply responded "NO"
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:35 PM
Oct 2013

Wouldn't it have been great, if the President of the United States, chewed out Ted Cruz?

NEW SUIT 300 DOLLARS...
NEW TIE 28 DOLLARS....
POLISHED SHOES 5 DOLLARS...

THE PRESIDENT CALLING YOU OUT...AS AN IDIOT... PRICELESS....

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
16. The Constitution provides a process for making and changing laws
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:36 PM
Oct 2013

in this country, Ted. It does not involve forcing a shutdown of the government and threatening default on our debt obligations.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
17. Republicans really shouldn't try to pretend to care about people.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:38 PM
Oct 2013

They do not care about people, except themselves, and we all know it. So when they try to pretend to care, it is laughable. It comes off just as phony as it really is.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
44. Definitely. It was teabaggery that laid people off to avoid the ACA. The GOP fights wages and jobs.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:21 PM
Oct 2013

It's as if he's one of those insult computer programs that takes a few words, turns them around to mean the opposite thing, with no rhyme or reason. Cruz does not believe one single word of that drivel. I hope to hell and back that NO ONE forgets what the GOP is doing to this nation right now.

 

munster69

(107 posts)
18. Ted Cruz is a good example
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:40 PM
Oct 2013

of why we should never allow Canada to dump their waste here.

Like all T-bagger politicians, including Rand Paul, he is a rich brat living off daddies money.

bucolic_frolic

(43,364 posts)
22. Obamacare is not CruzNoCare
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

Republicans are losing on this. Obamacare was supposed to be their
derisive term for the Affordable Care Act, but at this point I would
venture to say it's here to stay right beside Social Security and Medicare.

Obamacare has been here a week and people are losing their jobs?

OK, there are companies cutting employees to 30 hours, but then
they have to hire other workers, spreading the employment!

And Obamacare will create more Doctor Millionaires with 7 figure
Trust Funds for their kids than anything the GOP ever did.

CruzNoCare.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
23. Cruz Came To The Meeting Armed With No Facts
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:58 PM
Oct 2013

He was only armed with right wing echo chamber talking points. Now that is sure to impress the President -- NOT

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
27. Plonker = dimwit, dope, idiot, moron, wally, pillock, dunderhead, idiot
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:10 PM
Oct 2013

Cruz thought a career at the TeaParty would make him famous - he will be famous for Dr. Suess impersonations!

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
30. yep 5 years from now people will be asking, What ever happen to that Canadian Cat who wasn't into
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:15 PM
Oct 2013

Green Eggs and Ham?

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
28. He is a piece of work.....
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:10 PM
Oct 2013

This is all about him but he doesn't understand that the ACA is not going to be changed in exchange for re-opening the government or raising the debt ceiling. The President has made that clear and the Republicans are backing off on any extortion around the ACA. They are still trying to get "something".

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
29. He sounds like a tyrannical baboon
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:14 PM
Oct 2013

that thirst for constant attention for his lunatics and I hope Pres O started laughing at him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. If Cruz is so concerned about people losing their jobs, why did he carry on with his plan to
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:27 PM
Oct 2013

Shut down the government and get 800,000 out of a job, is he even thinking? Cruz the dictator wannabe has provided a great disservice to America, his plan, ill conceived has caused lots of pain and long lasting pain to the GOP.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
33. cruz finally emerges from his batshit crazy cave and has no clue just how successful ACA is...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:32 PM
Oct 2013

and comes of looking, well, like he's fucking crazy.

And since Carney didn't give an account of what was said, crazy cruz can spout off all he wants saying this and that, when in reality Obama probably told him politely to shut the fuck up. And cruz probably did.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
35. Did Cruz really mean this part? -
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:44 PM
Oct 2013

"...provide substantial relief to the millions of people who are hurting..."

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
36. people "hurting because of Obamacare" WTF? The program has just begun
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:47 PM
Oct 2013

And people are losing their health insurance due to O-care, losing jobs, etc?

The guy is insane.

CBHagman

(16,992 posts)
48. It's a prepared Republican talking point.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 12:30 AM
Oct 2013

You'll find the same phrase, precisely or a variant, in transcripts, videos, and letters. Possibly Frank Luntz or another pollster selected and honed a statement (the oft-repeated "government takeover of health care" claim about the ACA is reportedly also Luntz's handiwork) that they all use. Listen to enough sound bites, media availabilities, and speeches and you'll be able to mouth the words right along with them.

The House GOP members' August letter calling for the defunding of the Affordable Care Act contained a variant of the talking point.

[url]http://meadows.house.gov/uploads/Meadows_DefundLetter.pdf[/url]

Of course they always claim this is all about jobs, but since they started trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act from the first day of the Republican control of Congress in 2011, when the ACA wasn't even a year old and definitely hadn't gone into effect in full, this is all just for show, and what isn't for show is for spite.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
39. Which reminds me of Godfather II
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:25 PM
Oct 2013

Let's hope the Cruz-Obama conversation went something like this exchange from the movie, Godfather II.

Senator Pat Geary: You can have the license. The price is $250,000... plus a monthly payment of 5% of the gross... of all four hotels... Mr. Corleone

Michael Corleone: Now, the price of the license is less than $20,000. Is that correct?

Senator Pat Geary: Yes.

Michael Corleone: So why would I ever consider paying more than that?

Senator Pat Geary: Because I intend to squeeze you.

Senator Pat Geary: I want your answer and the money by noon tomorrow. And one more thing. Don't you contact me again, ever. From now on, you deal with Turnbull.

Michael Corleone: Senator? You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
40. Appealing to the stupid few is never a good political strategy.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:33 PM
Oct 2013

But it might put you in the lead for the Republican nomination

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
49. This is Cruz on crack.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:39 AM
Oct 2013

This guy has to be damaged by drugs...how else can this freak be explained.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
50. I hope he is the nominee against Hillary in 2016.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:41 AM
Oct 2013

Saturday Night Live, Letterman, John Stewart, Steven Kolbert and Leno will have a memorable season.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
54. Cruz has too high an opinion of himself.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 03:39 AM
Oct 2013

At the rate that he's making enemies within his party, I doubt that he will be a serious presidential contender in 2016.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
55. how does a dignified person respond to a raving
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 04:10 AM
Oct 2013

lunatic in a time of acute crisis?

that response from carney tells me the topic or subject and perhaps even the physical person - cruz - will not and is not being given any attention.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
58. Who has the ACA hurt?
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 06:00 AM
Oct 2013

I am sick of hearing about how the ACA is hurting Americans without the Media questioning them as to who? They keep blurting out this crap like a bunch of goats and no one calls them on it.

Also, notice these moran teabaggers like Ted Crudz never mention cutting any corporate welfare. It's always cutting things poor Americans need, not the rich ones. Will Boner throw corporate welfare on the table to cut?

 
59. The only people hurting from Obamacare are the people who can't get it because of asshat Pubs
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 06:06 AM
Oct 2013

who are going out of their way to intentionally punish poor people for voting for Obama and being poor.

Want to help people Teddy Boy then why are you not pushing for single payer?

The other day an analysis was linked here that showed that if the USA had implemented the same HC System that France has, the most generous in the world BTW, we could have saved so much money we could eliminate individual federal taxes.

If the GOP wants to get rid of individual taxes they should be pimping single payer big time.

Why does the GOP want to keep individual taxes in America?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
62. This is a very misleading title. The Senators were invited to the WH. The title makes it sound like
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:53 AM
Oct 2013

he stormed the WH all alone and confronted the President. He may have said something during the discussion but so did most of the participants. Big deal. Politico should know better.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
63. Okay cruz ...
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:16 AM
Oct 2013

“I told the president exactly the same thing I have told you here today: That we need to work together and fund the government and at the same time provide substantial relief to the millions of people who are hurting because of Obamacare, who are losing their jobs, being forced into part-time work and losing their health insurance,”


"Here's the deal ... You open government and eliminate the debt ceiling and I will increase funding to ObamaCare to close the hole affecting moderate incomed folks, and I will write the rules were ALL employees are to be coveraged, full-time and part-time, and I will pull fox news' certification because the only place reporting the job loss/lossing health insurance 'problems' you cite is fox news."

on point

(2,506 posts)
64. Ok Ted, pass a law that mandates benefits paid hourly regardless of hrs /wk
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:46 AM
Oct 2013

Problems solved!!!

No reason now to have part timers

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
69. "Confronts" ?? Really? I doubt a troll like Cruz would have the stones to do so.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 05:01 PM
Oct 2013

Chances are he would soil himself if POTUS gave him a 'stern talking to' in return for any insolence.

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