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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:27 PM Oct 2013

Senior Democrat, GOP Aide Get Into Altercation on House Floor

Source: Roll Call

A Democratic effort to stall floor action and highlight the shutdown turned into a shouting match between a member of Democratic leadership and a Republican floor staffer.

What is undisputed: Rep. Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y., the vice chairman of the Democratic Caucus, had an altercation with a Republican staffer, Chris Vieson, the floor director for Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.

What is in question is what Vieson and Crowley said to each other, and whether Crowley touched Vieson.

It all started when Democrats began lining up to make an endless string of unanimous consent requests for a vote on a “clean” continuing resolution to open up the government.

Over the course of about 25 minutes, Democrats offered 37 unanimous consent requests, all of which were denied by the presiding officer, GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah, due to a lack of appropriate clearances.

Democrats could have gone on all day making the unanimous consent requests, and that could have brought a lot of media attention — and made members miss their flights home.

Eventually, Republicans had enough and they decided to pull the bill to cut off debate.

“He had come to our side, was yelling across the aisles that they were shutting down the debate and pulling the bill,” Crowley told reporters. “And I had said to him then that a staffer was shutting down democracy, and he said, ‘That’s right.’”



Read more: http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/joe-crowley-gop-aide-chris-vieson-shouting-match/

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Senior Democrat, GOP Aide Get Into Altercation on House Floor (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Oct 2013 OP
Holy shit, we are becoming a third world nation gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1
More like Zero World nation. nt valerief Oct 2013 #12
No kidding! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #16
whats more scary to me PatrynXX Oct 2013 #20
And we have the Banana Republicans to thank for it. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #31
Pretty soon- ruffburr Oct 2013 #2
Or the UK tavernier Oct 2013 #3
You beat me to it! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #6
Doncha hate that? tavernier Oct 2013 #9
At least I was'nt a day late! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #15
I'd pay to see that! SCVDem Oct 2013 #4
He could do it, too. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #39
Next... chair throwing. longship Oct 2013 #5
Taiwan Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2013 #7
South Korean Government Brawl NBachers Oct 2013 #14
Wow, that was a lot uglier than the Taiwanese fisticuffs I saw on the news. Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2013 #19
Brownshirts in the House NBachers Oct 2013 #8
No video tape??? yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #10
I am sure there is, cameras are everywhere! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #18
You guys do realize... bobclark86 Oct 2013 #11
Well, you know how those drunkin brawls can get out hand on the house floor... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #27
Wait, you just wait a minute, you can not steal plays out our GOP playbook.... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #13
If the republicans are going to use petty shit in order to shut down the Government .... Botany Oct 2013 #17
But they have got to catch their flights home, gotta have your priorities. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #23
If we had let their sequester work as it was supposed to cui bono Oct 2013 #33
Agreed... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #37
We have a national crisis Marthe48 Oct 2013 #21
Congress did say they'd pay the 800K workers backpay. ffr Oct 2013 #25
Could the Dems and moderate republicans stay and pass something? Marthe48 Oct 2013 #22
We'll need a soundtrack: How about Frankie Goes to Hollywood's "Two Tribes". . . Journeyman Oct 2013 #24
Good choice! DJ13 Oct 2013 #28
One of my all-time favorites! Ferretherder Oct 2013 #35
Very apropos! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #36
I want to know what a staffer was doing on the floor. nt DURHAM D Oct 2013 #26
Meh. No cane beating, no gun duel. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #29
Yep, the nineteenth century called. Brigid Oct 2013 #41
The Dem poked!!! They're THUGS!!! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #30
Ahh, finally. We're beginning to speak to each other as honestly as the British parliament. Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #32
Yeah, we need that. I'm so tired of thei "my friend across the aisle" bs. cui bono Oct 2013 #34
Crowley should have... paleotn Oct 2013 #38
Nothing wrong with a little rock 'em sock 'em every now and then. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #40
Crowley's my Rep! nt LiberalElite Oct 2013 #42
What does a "floor director" normally do? surrealAmerican Oct 2013 #43

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
20. whats more scary to me
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:57 PM
Oct 2013

is reading this and knowing they are saying the exact same thing in the tea party living in fantasy land and they still act like they had nothing to do with it..

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
4. I'd pay to see that!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:36 PM
Oct 2013

Harry Reid smacking the fuck out of Boehner, Cantor, Cruz and turtle man.

Oh yeah!

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Next... chair throwing.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:36 PM
Oct 2013

What is the Asian country that has debates that break into chair throwing sometimes?

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
18. I am sure there is, cameras are everywhere!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:56 PM
Oct 2013

Guess somebody will make sure those cameras were not functional at that exact moment.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
11. You guys do realize...
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:47 PM
Oct 2013

people used to beat the shit out of each other on the floor, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner

Hell, they used to shoot each other over disagreements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr%E2%80%93Hamilton_duel

My response to the current situation is this: Pics of blood, or STFU, you wussies.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
27. Well, you know how those drunkin brawls can get out hand on the house floor...
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013

Specially when it is Martini time for the GOP.



IT'S MARTINI TIME LYRICS

Reverend Horton Heat
"It's Martini Time" Ringtone to your Cell
Hey, buddy do you got the time?
No I don't got a watch can you spare a dime,
But I got two olives and a couple of limes,
Guessin' that means it's martini time.

The Martinis that brought you the loss,
I didn't even ask or care what they cost,
I lost my job for no reason or rhyme,
Guessin' that means it's martini time.

Martini time (vodka ice shaker!),
Martini time (olive or lime!),
Martini time (gotta have glasses!),
Make it with a layer of ice this time.

Dirty, dry up, or in between,
From the very first sip you know what I mean,
When you're out with a babe you don't nickel or dime,
Guessin' that means it's martini time.

Martini time (vodka ice shaker!),
Martini time (olive or lime!),
Martini time (gotta have glasses!),
Make it with a layer of ice this time.

It's martini time.

I live my life for a layer of ice
Just like those poured by my bartender vice
Any taste of vermouth would be really sublime,
When you have a good martini time!

It's Martini time (vodka ice shaker!),
Martini time (olive or lime!),
Martini time (gotta have glasses!),
Perfectly poured and top of the line.

It's martini time
It's martini time
 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
13. Wait, you just wait a minute, you can not steal plays out our GOP playbook....
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

thats not fair. We are just going to pick up our toys and go home, nahnahnah! So what people are suffering, they can just wait till we get back.



Botany

(70,617 posts)
17. If the republicans are going to use petty shit in order to shut down the Government ....
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:56 PM
Oct 2013

... I am all for the Democratic party standing up to them and exposing their crap.


BTW the shut down has now cost $3.3 billion $s.

The shut down is costing $300,000,000 per day .
I never want to hear a republican talk about the deficit or the national debt again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/opinion/sunday/governing-by-blackmail.html?_r=1&

"The shutdown of government by House Republicans has already cost at least $1.2 billion,
with the tab increasing by $300 million a day. Some estimates are much higher than that."
10/5/13 Nicholas Kristof NY Times, "Governing by Blackmail."

*****
Please Call your Congress Critters .... especially the republican ones because they
are getting lots of heat over this unneeded shutdown.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
23. But they have got to catch their flights home, gotta have your priorities.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:02 PM
Oct 2013

Forget calling, emailing or faxing, all their offices are closed until the government is funded again. I have already run into that! We have no voice in government at this moment! Like we ever did, but thats beside the point. Don't believe me, find your's reps website and send an email and see what happens.

Here is what happened to me....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=615894


On edit: Just in case no one read the article link in the thread.....

It all started when Democrats began lining up to make an endless string of unanimous consent requests for a vote on a “clean” continuing resolution to open up the government.

Over the course of about 25 minutes, Democrats offered 37 unanimous consent requests, all of which were denied by the presiding officer, GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah, due to a lack of appropriate clearances.

Democrats could have gone on all day making the unanimous consent requests, and that could have brought a lot of media attention — and made members miss their flights home.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/joe-crowley-gop-aide-chris-vieson-shouting-match/

Marthe48

(17,053 posts)
21. We have a national crisis
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:58 PM
Oct 2013

and they are going home? And even though up to 800,000 workers aren't getting paid because of Republican actions, house members are getting paid, but they're going home? And there are still 28% of Americans who think they hold the best interests of this country most important? Really?

ffr

(22,674 posts)
25. Congress did say they'd pay the 800K workers backpay.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:14 PM
Oct 2013

You have it about right. There's little rush in getting American government back on the job, when your entire party platform is explicitly set against anything the president wants.

The fact that 24% of those polled have an interest in seeing a collapse of the economy and a world recession, just shows representation. They want want America to fail and are guiding it in that direction so they can say 'we told you so.'

Marthe48

(17,053 posts)
22. Could the Dems and moderate republicans stay and pass something?
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:59 PM
Oct 2013

Would they have a quorum? Wishful thinking?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
34. Yeah, we need that. I'm so tired of thei "my friend across the aisle" bs.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 03:04 PM
Oct 2013

They are not our friends. They are sinking the country and ruining people's lives.

surrealAmerican

(11,365 posts)
43. What does a "floor director" normally do?
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:17 PM
Oct 2013

Do the republicans have hired goons here, or is this a question of somebody with a legitimate reason to be there snapping.

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