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brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:42 AM Oct 2013

Brian Schweitzer Mulling 2016 Presidential Bid

Source: Real Clear Politics

Add another name to the short list of Democrats seriously considering a run for president in 2016.

In an interview with RealClearPolitics, former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer indicated that he may launch a White House bid, even if front-runner Hillary Clinton also enters the race.

“I still hold the people of Iowa and New Hampshire in high regard,” Schweitzer said of the nation’s first caucus and primary states. “The people of Iowa are a whole lot like the people of Montana. And, of course, New Hampshire’s a lot like Montana. We don’t have a sales tax. ‘Live Free or Die’ -- we understand that notion in Montana.”

A popular two-term governor who once used a red-hot branding iron to veto several bills passed by the Republican-controlled state legislature, Schweitzer would offer a hefty dose of rural folksiness against the East Coast urbanites in the potential Democratic field, including Clinton, Vice President Joe Biden, and Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley.


Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/10/18/brian_schweitzer_mulling_2016_presidential_bid_120380.html



I've already spoke to him personally about this. If Hillary gets in, I'll support her; otherwise I've said I work to build support for Brian among NYC funders.
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Brian Schweitzer Mulling 2016 Presidential Bid (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2013 OP
I'd vote for Schweitzer! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #1
As would I! n/t painesghost Dec 2013 #44
He should start visiting the coasts BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #2
As a resident of a coastal State, I point out that many States have no city as Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #8
"Live Free or Die" is NH's state motto. bunnies Oct 2013 #43
I like Brian Schweitzer. He's more conservative than me mountain grammy Oct 2013 #3
I like him too. And he's from my home state, which makes me happy too. LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #5
We don't need another conservative. Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #7
While I agree, I have to be realistic.. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #10
Elizabeth Warren - no; Sherrod Brown - no; Howard Dean - no. Who else have you got? brooklynite Oct 2013 #14
How is he a conservative? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #26
He's practical and realistic mountain grammy Oct 2013 #32
I agree he's not a Clinton style DLC or a Blue Dog. He's has more of a Libertarian leaning than a Co painesghost Dec 2013 #45
He's also professed a seething hatred of Washington Warpy Oct 2013 #28
Probably running to be Hillary's VP Renew Deal Oct 2013 #4
Yep. Or maybe Elizabeth Warren's? CTyankee Oct 2013 #21
Not sure why this meme lives on. She's said she's NOT running. freshwest Oct 2013 #37
I'd support Brian over Hillary, both are more conservative than I am and I like Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #6
For a Blue Dog he's okay EC Oct 2013 #9
The more the merrier. All parts of the party should have a voice.... Rowdyboy Oct 2013 #11
I was born and raised in Wyoming....... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #12
He would be a good candidate. DCBob Oct 2013 #13
He's a good guy, But I still feel a Senate run would have been a smarter option. Mr.Turnip Oct 2013 #15
He has no chance against the Clinton machine. cosmicone Oct 2013 #16
Probably true Mz Pip Oct 2013 #17
He ain't no Obama............... Beacool Oct 2013 #42
Is he still pushing Clean Coal? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #18
I agree. n/t murielm99 Oct 2013 #19
I'd take Brian's conservatism over Hillary's corporatism....but.. tokenlib Oct 2013 #20
I think he would add a great dimension to the primaries Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #22
I agree davidpdx Oct 2013 #23
Brian Schweitzer is the GOP's worst nightmare jmowreader Oct 2013 #24
he speaks Arabic fluently - that is suspect you know Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #30
He's registered as a Democrat; for the teabaggers that's the only thing that matters jmowreader Oct 2013 #35
my dream ticket: Dean + Schweitzer grasswire Oct 2013 #25
Has he labeled himself a blue dog or a conservative? ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #27
Neither had Hillary Clinton... brooklynite Oct 2013 #31
I would be very open minded to this- other than gun issues and a few positions like pro-"clean coal" Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #29
If he is a neoliberal in any fashion, including a school privatizer, scratch him. duffyduff Oct 2013 #33
His only chance would be a horrendous gaffe by Hillary, Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #34
He doesn't have Hillary's baggage jmowreader Oct 2013 #36
He also doesn't have Hillary's experience and world wide connections. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #40
Connections can be made, and there are plenty of smart Democratic advisors to help him jmowreader Oct 2013 #41
I'm interested in whoever can win against R's that isn't Hillary. Schweitzer vs. O'Malley? TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #38
I'd vote for him gejohnston Oct 2013 #39

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
2. He should start visiting the coasts
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:51 AM
Oct 2013

I think these areas would automatically support whoever the nominee is but in order to get a good enough turnout outside of (needed) indies/centrists, he would need to show how his policies can help the urban areas. I.e., it's not that he couldn't do it but he needs to target some things like housing, education, and of course jobs, etc.

"Live Free or Die" might play in rural areas but in the urban areas, the reality is "Nothing is Free So Die".

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. As a resident of a coastal State, I point out that many States have no city as
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:25 AM
Oct 2013

large as Billings Montana. New Hampshire, Delaware, Maine all spring to mind.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
43. "Live Free or Die" is NH's state motto.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

I highly doubt he would use it in any other state. Right now he's just playing to the early states, it would seem.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
3. I like Brian Schweitzer. He's more conservative than me
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

but is a decent and honest man. He actually filled in on Denver's progressive radio station for the morning host a while back. Direct and to the point..

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
7. We don't need another conservative.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:24 AM
Oct 2013

Why do the Democrats keep pushing the Overton Window further and further toward CloudCuckooLand?

No more Blue Dogs. Period.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
10. While I agree, I have to be realistic..
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:45 AM
Oct 2013

I remember my horror when Reagan was elected, by a landslide no less, and twice! Thirty years of liberal bashing ensued.. I'm surprised there are any of us left and we've had to compromise again and again.
But compromise is ok and long as we keep moving ahead, slowly but surely, and we are.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
14. Elizabeth Warren - no; Sherrod Brown - no; Howard Dean - no. Who else have you got?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:48 AM
Oct 2013

Maybe Kucinich could give up his Fox News gig?

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
26. How is he a conservative?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:30 AM
Oct 2013

He supports gun rights, but so do a lot of rural Democrats.

He also supports Canadian style single payer health care.

painesghost

(91 posts)
45. I agree he's not a Clinton style DLC or a Blue Dog. He's has more of a Libertarian leaning than a Co
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 08:24 PM
Dec 2013

He's has more of a Libertarian impulse than a Conservative one.

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
28. He's also professed a seething hatred of Washington
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:49 AM
Oct 2013

but I honestly think he'd have an easier time than Clinton. He's just a very likable person and I think the party is starving for someone who would take no shit from Republicans and would do it publicly.

I already don't support Clinton in the primary. I could support Schweitzer if he overcomes his distaste of Washington to run.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. I'd support Brian over Hillary, both are more conservative than I am and I like
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:19 AM
Oct 2013

them both as people, Brian can really give a speech and he's not a retread of the alternating Presidencies Fandango. Also he's from the West and does not deny that like some do. He's been a good governor. He can work a room. He's not related to a former President. These are good things.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
11. The more the merrier. All parts of the party should have a voice....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:56 AM
Oct 2013

I like Schweitzer and I like the idea of having a Westerner on the ticket.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
12. I was born and raised in Wyoming.......
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:13 AM
Oct 2013

and even the conservative Republicans there have historically been more pragmatic and less ideological than Republicans in the midwest and south.

A good example is Alan Simpson who I know fairly well from my childhood days. I disagreed with him on many, if not most policy issues, but he was pragmatic.

As someone from the inter-mountain west I think Schweitzer would be a slightly center-right President with a libertarian slant.

Given other choices I could consider supporting him.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
16. He has no chance against the Clinton machine.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:42 PM
Oct 2013

Clintons can raise in an hour what will take him a whole year to raise.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
19. I agree. n/t
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:14 PM
Oct 2013

I heard him speak at our Governor's Day brunch in Illinois a few years ago. He has great credentials, he is smart, and honest.

He spoke about how health insurance came into existence in Canada.

He had to overcome a teabagger legislature in his state, and he came out ahead. He would be great on a ticket with Hillary. I would support him for President, too!

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
20. I'd take Brian's conservatism over Hillary's corporatism....but..
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

..if Hillary wants it..no one will stop her this time. Brian would be a break the mold candidate for Dems..that is nothing like the candidates we have had before. He is less comfortable in a suit than in working person garb--but has a respectable resume. It would be fun....

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
23. I agree
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:47 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know much about him, but he'd be an interesting candidate. It's way too early for me to back anyone. I'd say maybe a year and a half or so and I might start considering who's I like.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
24. Brian Schweitzer is the GOP's worst nightmare
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:54 AM
Oct 2013


That's how the GOP is against Schweitzer: They got NOTHING!

They can't play the "gun grabber" card against a hunter.

They can't play the "he doesn't understand Real America" card against a Montana rancher.

They can't play the "he won't work with Republicans" card against a Democratic governor who had a Republican running mate.

They can't play the "no business experience" card against a man who ran an international business building dairy farms. (He built the largest dairy farm in the world. It's in Saudi Arabia.)

He's also the greatest ladies' man in the world: his honeymoon consisted of a trip to buy a center-pivot sprinkler system AND THEY'RE STILL MARRIED TO EACH OTHER! (They probably still have the sprinkler, too.)

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
35. He's registered as a Democrat; for the teabaggers that's the only thing that matters
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:45 AM
Oct 2013

Now let me ask ya something: If Brian Schweitzer is elected president, will Jag (Schweitzer's border collie) take up residence in the Oval Office like he did in Schweitzer's governor's office, and how many teabaggers will Jag be deemed smarter than?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
25. my dream ticket: Dean + Schweitzer
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:01 AM
Oct 2013

And then Schweitzer can pave the way for Montana governor Steve Bullock. A rising star.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
27. Has he labeled himself a blue dog or a conservative?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:34 AM
Oct 2013

Where are you guys coming up with this? He supports single payer health care, is strongly against Citizens United, supports organized labor, and has similar views to Warren on financial reform and regulation.


What issues other than gun rights makes him a conservative?

Is he a conservative because he's from a Western state and wears a bolo tie?

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
31. Neither had Hillary Clinton...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:29 AM
Oct 2013

Doesn't matter for some people. If the candidate doesn't meet some standard of liberal purity...

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
29. I would be very open minded to this- other than gun issues and a few positions like pro-"clean coal"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:21 AM
Oct 2013

he would be one of the most progressive candidates whose name has been seriously tossed around - He is after all a rural populist with a strong left-wing streak

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
33. If he is a neoliberal in any fashion, including a school privatizer, scratch him.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:48 PM
Oct 2013

I am sick of fakes.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. His only chance would be a horrendous gaffe by Hillary,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:23 PM
Oct 2013

or health issues that force Hillary to drop out. Otherwise, as others have said, this could help get him the VP slot.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
36. He doesn't have Hillary's baggage
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:09 AM
Oct 2013

About 95 percent of Hillary's baggage is in fact manufactured by the Republican Party, but it's still there.

A few things that really need to be considered:

1. His last elected office was as governor, which has long been considered a good stepping stone to the presidency. Many of our best presidents were governors...okay, the two worst presidents we ever had were also governors, but Clinton, Carter and both the Roosevelts were governors.

2. He left Montana in better fiscal shape than he found it. Republicans like that.

3. He's from "Real America," whatever the hell that is. Republicans like that too.

4. He signed something called the "Montana Firearms Freedom Act." This says that "The law declares that firearms manufactured in the state of Montana after October 1, 2009, and which remain in the state, are exempt from United States federal firearms regulations, provided that these items are clearly stamped "Made in Montana" on a central metallic part.
"It applies to all firearms other than fully automatic weapons, firearms that cannot be carried and used by one person, and firearms with a bore diameter greater than 1½ inch which use smokeless powder. It also applies to ammunition (except exploding projectiles), and accessories such as suppressors." The law is pretty much useless to teabaggers because there are three gun manufacturers in the whole state of Montana and none are making the kind of guns teabaggers like (they make expensive bolt-action rifles for long-range hunting, not assault rifles), but imagine the wailing at FreedumbWorks..."oh my god, how can we get this man to convert to Republicanism before the election? He's everything we want except for being a fuckin' liberal."

And most importantly:

5. The assholes on the other side of the political spectrum have been hatin' Hillary for decades; they've already got their scripts, anti-Hillary turf organizations, and attack ads built. They don't know Schweitzer.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
41. Connections can be made, and there are plenty of smart Democratic advisors to help him
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:25 PM
Oct 2013

As I type, a third of the country thinks Hillary Clinton's got horns and a tail. The same third would accept the Democrat Schweitzer for the same reason they'd accept a nonwhite Republican: "the boy's all right for one'a them people."

The biggest reason we need Schweitzer? He's you. The Republicans have long relied on antipathy toward the urban professionals we run for high office - that damn Demoncrat don't know what I go through, he don't hunt, he don't fish, he don't know what it is to do an honest day's work. (Because, you know, the only "honest day's work" there could possibly be is manual labor outside.) Schweitzer's different: He ranches cattle in Montana. Schweitzer's biggest advantage is the ability to go to the Typical Republican Voter and tell him, "I know everything there is to know about pitching hay, digging ditches, meeting a payroll and castrating calves. I also know everything there is to know about how the Republicans are screwing you and me at every turn; let's talk about that for a while, okay?"

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
38. I'm interested in whoever can win against R's that isn't Hillary. Schweitzer vs. O'Malley?
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:26 PM
Oct 2013

Bring it. And if E. Warren doesn't want to run, grab her for VP.

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