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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:04 AM Oct 2013

Schwarzenegger wants law changed so he can run for president.

Source: Independent.Ie

Arnold Schwarzenegger is reportedly trying to get the law changed so he can run for US President.

At the moment US constitution states that only American-born people can land the role and as the 66-year-old star was born in Austria, it rules him out.

Arnold was Governor of California between 2003 and 2011 and has apparently decided to do his best to get the regulations changed.

“Schwarzenegger has been talking openly about working on getting the constitutional rules changed so he can run for president in 2016. He is ready to file legal paperwork to challenge the rules,” an insider told New York Post.

Read more: http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/from-obama-to-arnie-schwarzenegger-wants-law-changed-so-he-can-run-for-president-29670961.html



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Schwarzenegger wants law changed so he can run for president. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Oct 2013 OP
Nein!! SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #1
Not only nein, but Hölle Nein! liberal N proud Oct 2013 #57
the first two posters are my heroes. LOL! Neither he nor Cruz will ever be president. Imagine. Him roguevalley Oct 2013 #61
Also Scairp Oct 2013 #89
Changing the constitution requires more than just filing some paperwork. <nt> bigworld Oct 2013 #2
if the right people want something, the Constitution is just a scrap of paper yurbud Oct 2013 #88
Didn't he put Callifornia pretty much in the dumpster when he was the govenator? n/t doc03 Oct 2013 #3
He sure did Faux pas Oct 2013 #31
Yes, but so did Reagan and it didn't stop him...n/t Blue Meany Oct 2013 #54
He did. And he managed to get the laundress or one of the maids or was it the governess kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #71
.... DeSwiss Oct 2013 #111
More like this Scairp Oct 2013 #90
Yes because he preferred to borrow rather than to raise taxes and pay for what he bought. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #92
well, dont forget how cheaply an office can be had, even in mid-second term reddread Oct 2013 #106
Right. Schwarzenegger rewarded the electricity industry for his election. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #119
... nolabear Oct 2013 #4
The law of gravity? KurtNYC Oct 2013 #5
Come one now, that is a cheap shot Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #23
How about his health as an issue? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #41
His health, Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #48
As long as he can father illegitimate children ... cosmicone Oct 2013 #51
A LOT of that was hype to get him off the hook for Iran Contra.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #53
I watched a couple of interviews of him BEFORE the Iran/Contra fiasco Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #55
As a result he LITERALLY thought there were commies under his bed.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #76
Very funny ... i forgot about this skit ... rtassi Oct 2013 #77
Except that he used his looks to get where he got. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #93
You're absolutely right. He's stupid, he's empty. Typical Republican. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2013 #124
I agree Scairp Oct 2013 #96
Agreed! Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #117
His appearance has been the focus of his entire life. Judi Lynn Oct 2013 #123
I agree that the man is shallow and narcissistic Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #139
Steroids are dangerous as you can see bigdarryl Oct 2013 #6
So is old age... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #7
AHHHNold....is prime example why we should NOT change the law.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #8
He's a bad actor... GReedDiamond Oct 2013 #9
Because you did such a good job running CA sakabatou Oct 2013 #10
He's a fucking fool. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #11
Three strikes against him. He sucked as LibDemAlways Oct 2013 #12
It's not a law, it's a constitutional requirement JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #13
Whoever wrote that article isn't too sharp either - groundloop Oct 2013 #22
Agreed, he also needs Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #25
Yes, it would take a constitutional amendment treestar Oct 2013 #65
He was the worst governor in the history of California. olddad56 Oct 2013 #14
Maria looks 1 million % better tavernier Oct 2013 #15
Do they HAVE a presidency in Austria? Plucketeer Oct 2013 #16
Heinz Fischer. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #37
I wonder why nobody ever mentions his decades of obvious steroid abuse. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #17
well obama is the president! so...... madrchsod Oct 2013 #18
This is a non-starter...... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #19
Not only that, but as it has been mentioned countless times Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #24
It's actually 3/4 of the states,not 2/3. n/t SpankMe Oct 2013 #30
And what President is going to sign it, does Ahnuld think a Repuke treestar Oct 2013 #66
Presidential approval isn't required for a Constitutional amendment Jim Lane Oct 2013 #128
...3/4 of the states... truebluegreen Oct 2013 #69
True. But there is a better chance of this happening. alphafemale Oct 2013 #137
Argh. No. Just No. Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #20
.... DeSwiss Oct 2013 #112
What is that Politicalboi Oct 2013 #118
Fuck off Ahnold, you corrupt, incompetent piece of shit. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #21
That about captures it, succinctly. closeupready Oct 2013 #33
Yes because the ghost of raygun ronnie MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #26
He's ready to file papers to challenge the constitution? Renew Deal Oct 2013 #27
Destiny Ace Acme Oct 2013 #28
Sometimes we need to actually read things before posting about them JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #29
Read my lips...HELL NO! SoapBox Oct 2013 #32
there's also the little fact that his father was in the SS. He had to prove his racial roguevalley Oct 2013 #64
Then EVERY restaurant would be Taco Bell. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #34
That was Sly. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #39
Oh, Bullocks! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #42
... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #72
Or Pizza Hut thelordofhell Oct 2013 #56
Yeah when the movie is on here in Korea they use Pizza Hut davidpdx Oct 2013 #82
Its a silly fake article. former9thward Oct 2013 #35
No he doesn't .....he has a movie that's tanking and he wants some free publicity right now. Nt pkdu Oct 2013 #36
Sound thinking. old guy Oct 2013 #47
The movie is the real reason for this move Gothmog Oct 2013 #129
Sure.. sendero Oct 2013 #38
Early onset DEMENTIA? Wernothelpless Oct 2013 #40
Well, that's my laugh for the day Auggie Oct 2013 #43
Actually this is not entirely true LittleGirl Oct 2013 #44
There is more to it than that... Tx4obama Oct 2013 #94
why thank you for that clarification LittleGirl Oct 2013 #95
Cruz is eligible (though Schwarzenegger isn't) Jim Lane Oct 2013 #125
It is NOT that simple. See articles below Tx4obama Oct 2013 #140
Law one thing Constitution another...a change takes an amendment. Evasporque Oct 2013 #45
"...an insider told New York Post." subterranean Oct 2013 #46
The Toilet Paper Post :) dballance Oct 2013 #50
Exactly. The Post is a rag, Page Six is its gossip column, and this is an unsourced item. Jim Lane Oct 2013 #127
What is the crap about the courts allowing voters to decide. That's BS. dballance Oct 2013 #49
and we can let motorists decide if they want to obey traffic laws and signals too Arnie. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #122
People in hell want ice water too get the red out Oct 2013 #52
Oh grand...so he can turn the WhiteHouse into his own personal brothel SummerSnow Oct 2013 #58
Yeah, no thanks. He nearly killed my state. What an arrogant asshole. byronius Oct 2013 #59
Yeah, good luck with that one. nft. TheOther95Percent Oct 2013 #60
From California SCVDem Oct 2013 #62
A shorter Ronald Reagan on steriods Blue Owl Oct 2013 #63
have at it, hoss! paulkienitz Oct 2013 #67
"The law" in question is the Constitution. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #68
It's just Arnold's publicist trying to keep his name in the news. Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #70
Thank you. I expect pecs-for-brains to come out and debunk this story in a few hours Bucky Oct 2013 #73
He may be a surrogate for the Cruz folks. nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #74
That's exactly what I'm thinking. There is no way with his personnel snagglepuss Oct 2013 #78
Academic questions, but... Would he run as a pro-choice, pro-gay rights Republican? Bucky Oct 2013 #75
Yep. That's the only thing standing between him and the presidency. /nt Ash_F Oct 2013 #79
This has to be a joke darkangel218 Oct 2013 #80
I'd like to see a constitutional amendment for that issue. deurbano Oct 2013 #81
It's an obnoxious provision DavidDvorkin Oct 2013 #83
Limitless Narcissist EGO bucolic_frolic Oct 2013 #84
Give me a break. Things are not bad enough? Paper Roses Oct 2013 #85
because he was so popular as governor in California? yurbud Oct 2013 #86
unfortunately, the same trick he played on CA could work on the national stage yurbud Oct 2013 #87
The Republicans have plenty of nutjob candidates to choose from... Frank Cannon Oct 2013 #131
their current crop of nutjobs couldn't attract a single swing voter yurbud Oct 2013 #141
ABSOLUTELY NOT! He messed up California. Enough is enough. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #91
Don't bother. You're a sneak, a liar and a cheat, Arnold. Hopefully, you WON'T be back. judesedit Oct 2013 #97
get over yourself! RussBLib Oct 2013 #98
I'd like Bill Clinton to take another term or two. marble falls Oct 2013 #99
Yeah, we're going to have a Constitutional Convention, just for YOU!!! pnwmom Oct 2013 #100
That will take more than a law, it will require a Constitutional Amendment. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #101
and if he got over those hurdles, he would have to win an election. That would never happen... olddad56 Oct 2013 #103
another idiocy for the GOP to burn their billion$ on wordpix Oct 2013 #115
just make a B grade movie where he plays the role of an inept president and be done with it. olddad56 Oct 2013 #102
baby mama needs a new set of shoes! reddread Oct 2013 #104
I bet he does. nt silvershadow Oct 2013 #105
Our best constitutional scholars are in Ireland, dontchaknow? jmowreader Oct 2013 #107
Arnold can run. The Constitution says absolutely nothing about running for President. He just 24601 Oct 2013 #108
What a moran! I wonder if he could get elected dogcatcher in Alaska nowadays IrishAyes Oct 2013 #109
OH, HELL NO!!!! A HESSIAN IN THE TEA PARTY???? DeSwiss Oct 2013 #110
That's one of the worst written articles I have ever seen. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #113
hail mary pass thrown by GOP looking at the Cruz-led clown car wordpix Oct 2013 #114
His first challenge will be actually finding this "law". Fearless Oct 2013 #116
In the spirit of compromise, let's meet him half way. Amimnoch Oct 2013 #120
FU Arnold! workinclasszero Oct 2013 #121
Well, even if it comes to a vote... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #130
It can also be excruciatingly slow and end in failure. Frank Cannon Oct 2013 #132
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #133
Not for Arnold Schwarzenegger, it won't. Frank Cannon Oct 2013 #134
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #135
He would have done better as governor of California Turbineguy Oct 2013 #136
This is a joke right? Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2013 #138
Revise it to include "...arrogant egotistical candidates are permitted." BootinUp Oct 2013 #142

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
61. the first two posters are my heroes. LOL! Neither he nor Cruz will ever be president. Imagine. Him
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:20 PM
Oct 2013

and his chicks and illegitimate kids. What kind of ego do you have to be to want that kind of scrutiny during a campaign in a red neck party let alone think that a country wants or needs you?

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
89. Also
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:55 PM
Oct 2013

Fuck THAT!! We are not going to amend the Constitution for him certainly, or even someone worthy of being president.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
88. if the right people want something, the Constitution is just a scrap of paper
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:52 PM
Oct 2013

see 2000-2008 and some of the more unfortunate foreign actions of Obama.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
71. He did. And he managed to get the laundress or one of the maids or was it the governess
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

pregnant while he was at it.

Awesome, huh??

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
90. More like this
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

We were already in the dumpster, and he stomped us down further into the pile of garbage, brought some of his own and threw that in for good measure.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
92. Yes because he preferred to borrow rather than to raise taxes and pay for what he bought.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:31 PM
Oct 2013

He is an incredible optimist. And incredible is the important word there. He does not have a realistic bone in his body.

He has been very lucky. He two-timed his wife who happens to be a very fine member of the Kennedy clan. Dream on, Arnie. Nobody wants you.

The Republicans don't really claim him as their own, and the Democrats can't stand him. I doubt that he could carry California. He is a huge joke.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
106. well, dont forget how cheaply an office can be had, even in mid-second term
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:01 PM
Oct 2013

compared to the money that was presumably on the table if anyone held the Electricity Crisis manufacturers liable for
grandma's screwing.

It was not an election.
And it was not his idea.
He is deplorable, but the pass given that abominable scandal speaks volumes for where we are as a country.
The first decade of the twenty first century in America will be famous for the many stolen elections we saw.
Fortunately, all the right counter measures have been taken, without a word being said...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
119. Right. Schwarzenegger rewarded the electricity industry for his election.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:18 AM
Oct 2013

We Californians got taken. It's a terrible shame. He nearly ruined our state. It took a Democratic governor and a majority Democratic legislature to put California back on its feet again.

Thank you, Jerry Brown. It wasn't easy.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
23. Come one now, that is a cheap shot
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:26 AM
Oct 2013

You can criticize his policies, his opinions, but when you attack his looks you discredit your argument.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
48. His health,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:33 PM
Oct 2013

such that it might affect his ability to carry out his duties is a legitimate topic for discussion.

Reagan's dementia started toward the end of his first term, and was ignored by the press completely in his second term, even as it became more obvious that he was impaired.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
53. A LOT of that was hype to get him off the hook for Iran Contra....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

This is probably more accurate than people think.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
55. I watched a couple of interviews of him BEFORE the Iran/Contra fiasco
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:46 PM
Oct 2013

got wound up. He was taking questions from reporters at some event and he had a "dear in the headlights" look when they started asking questions. Nancy was beside him and literally feed him answers sotto voce, which he repeated verbatim.

Do I doubt he was involved? No. But that is not my point. I would say that an honest neuro evaluation of him would have found him unfit for office by 1987 at the latest.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
76. As a result he LITERALLY thought there were commies under his bed....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:00 PM
Oct 2013

Those around him took advantage of that but he went along with it and I have no doubt he ordered the funding of the Contras even though he knew full well it was in direct violation of the Boland Amendment. There was an arrogant attitude from the Right that we also saw in the run up to Iraq of, "We're gonna save you from yourselves."

I really hate these people.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
93. Except that he used his looks to get where he got.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:36 PM
Oct 2013

And he really isn't goodlooking at all.

He is a total loser. He nearly lost California to our creditors.

Almost every year, we went through a budget crisis just like the one we went through the last couple of weeks. He has a lot of money, but he can't organize a budget for a state much less the nation.

He is an utter loser. Back to Hollywood with him. Besides, the woman he two-timed was a member of the Kennedy family. Not a smart thing to do in America. We love the Kennedys.

Maria Shriver was outstanding on issues of women and children. It was her presence that helped get him elected. So much for gratitude on his part. And I am not usually concerned about sex scandals. But in his case, when he used his wife's family credentials as bona fides in the political marketplace, it was a pretty crummy thing to do. Shame on him. He used Maria Shriver. That is how I feel.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
96. I agree
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:20 PM
Oct 2013

Unless you are a former supermodel or Sandra Bullock no one can stand up to that kind of physical scrutiny. He did have a procedure on his heart but the details escape me. This isn't about his health anyway. He is most decidedly "unfit" psychologically to be president.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
117. Agreed!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:21 AM
Oct 2013

There are SO many reasons why he is not qualified for public office and deriding his for no longer being an Adonis at 60+ debases the discourse.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
123. His appearance has been the focus of his entire life.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:55 AM
Oct 2013

He's not bright, he's not loyal, he's entirely self-absorbed, he doesn't have deep concerns, beliefs, empathy, depth, he's got nada.

His image has been ALL that mattered to him forever, his identification with his "heroic" characters he got after being hired for his image for movies, even though he could never act well enough to be considered a real actor.

After "success" for working as an image, he seemed to feel he is important, but he has absolutely nothing positive working for him.

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
9. He's a bad actor...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:11 AM
Oct 2013

...and he was a worse governor.

Starting with his collusion with the crooks running the big power companies during the rigged California "energy crisis" of 2000-2001.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
11. He's a fucking fool.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:12 AM
Oct 2013

If an amendment is ever passed to change that rule, and an amendment is what it would take, it certainly wouldn't be changed to suit his sorry ass. He is delusional if he thinks he's that popular. I don't think he could even get re-elected in California.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
12. Three strikes against him. He sucked as
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:13 AM
Oct 2013

Governor, he's too far to the left of the Tea Party nut cases, and there's the little matter of the love child with the housekeeper. Not buying it.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
13. It's not a law, it's a constitutional requirement
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:17 AM
Oct 2013

and even if the amendment could be done, which is unlikely in the extreme, getting it formulated, passed by Congress and ratified by the required number of states would take so long that he will have died of old age before th process was completed.

Arnie is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he is not that stupid. Somebody has fallen for a prank headline. Does the OP know that news items in the Onion are not real?

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
22. Whoever wrote that article isn't too sharp either -
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:25 AM
Oct 2013
"For the change to go ahead, the Hollywood hard-man would need the backing of two thirds of the House and the Senate."

OK, it's been a few years since I've taken a government class, but...... WTF?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
65. Yes, it would take a constitutional amendment
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:34 PM
Oct 2013

Ah-nuld is too dumb to be President if he doesn't know that.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
14. He was the worst governor in the history of California.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:18 AM
Oct 2013

He is an idiot. The only thing he ever did that was productive was he produced a child with his housekeeper. Arnold is a pig.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
15. Maria looks 1 million % better
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:19 AM
Oct 2013

now that she has kicked him to the curb. Yeah, she had a facelift but besides that.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. Do they HAVE a presidency in Austria?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:19 AM
Oct 2013

Oh - wait ................ whaddya wanna bet this is a stunt to promote some stupid movie plot where he confronts the likes of Putin and Kim jung un and kicks them to their senses??? A make-believe kick-ass president. What better way to kick off such a production!

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
17. I wonder why nobody ever mentions his decades of obvious steroid abuse.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:20 AM
Oct 2013

Baseball players get dragged before congress for using them but this guy gets to hold high level political positions and never even get asked about it.

It sets a terrible example for males to have a man in such a high position of authority getting a pass on abusing such a destructive drug for personal gain.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
18. well obama is the president! so......
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013

why can`t arnold.......?

poor arnold his star power is waning....

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
19. This is a non-starter......
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:22 AM
Oct 2013

This requires a constitutional amendment that requires 2/3 majorities in both houses of Congress and the President's signature. From there it goes to the states and requires passage by 2/3 of the states.

In best case scenario this takes 3-5 years. This would not be done in time for him to run in 2016.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. Not only that, but as it has been mentioned countless times
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

*IF* for whatever reason they do pass the amendment, Schwarzenegger won't be grandfathered and would be ineligible anyways....

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
128. Presidential approval isn't required for a Constitutional amendment
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:31 AM
Oct 2013

The basic method is two-thirds of each chamber of Congress to propose the amendment, plus ratification by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states. There's also a provision by which two-thirds of the states can call for a convention to propose amendments, thus bypassing Congress, but no such convention has ever been held.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
69. ...3/4 of the states...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:46 PM
Oct 2013


For sure, Ahnold would be my choice to change the "rules" for. And if we do it for him, Ted Cruz can be next! Yea!
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
137. True. But there is a better chance of this happening.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:29 AM
Oct 2013

Than the tea turds overturning the ACA.

Or Ted Cruz being President.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
26. Yes because the ghost of raygun ronnie
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:30 AM
Oct 2013

was resurrected in arnie the sexual sociopath. I actually like the idea, the comedy of señor Cruz R-Canada/Cuba, The Wasila Hillbilly, and duh i forgot Perry should make for some magical comedy.

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
28. Destiny
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:40 AM
Oct 2013

If he feels his destiny is to engage in a battle to amend the Constitution before he dies so he can run for president, that only shows that he has no better ideas on what to do.

Maybe he should consider running for senator, and then using the platform of a distinguished senatorial career to advocate for the amendment. Maybe he could do better as a senator than as a governor--it's not like he would be expected actually do anything.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
29. Sometimes we need to actually read things before posting about them
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:41 AM
Oct 2013

Nowhere in that article does it say, or even imply, that Arnie is actually trying to "get the law changed" to allow him to run for president. It says that he would like to be president, but not that he is trying to actually accomplish that. The quotes from Bloomberg are clearly remarks made in jest.

Why the Independent even wrote this piece of fluff is not really clear, although the Independent is rather famous for writing puff pieces, society trivia and nonsense, but we certainly don't do the political arena any favor by taking those idiots seriously and propagating their babble.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
64. there's also the little fact that his father was in the SS. He had to prove his racial
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

purity back about four generations and volunteer. He was Austrian. Germany overran his country and he VOLUNTEERED to help them do more. In the end, he was also gestapo too:

ASK.FM:

"Where the Gestapo and SS the same?"

"No, they were separate although they worked together later on. The Gestapo were the police. The SS were an elite military group founded by Hitler more or less as bodyguards. SS stands for Schutzstaffel. Eventually, the SS took over the Gestapo so they reported directly to the SS."

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
82. Yeah when the movie is on here in Korea they use Pizza Hut
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:02 PM
Oct 2013

Until recently we didn't have Taco Bell. I usually buy the fresh ingredients and make tacos at home. That stuff at Taco Bell gives me the runs.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
38. Sure..
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:57 AM
Oct 2013

.... Congress isn't busy. They've got plenty of time to monkey with the fundamentals of the constitution so a mediocre-beyond-belief arrogant prick such as yourself can be president.

Geez what a fuck.

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
40. Early onset DEMENTIA?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:00 PM
Oct 2013

Has he forgotten all his sexual escapades? ...

As a bodybuilder he had wide and varied group of interesting partners and not all of them were female ... not to mention his most recent conquests while married and then, of course, there's all of his children ....

Time to seek a good neurologist .... don't embarrass your kids, please ...

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
44. Actually this is not entirely true
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:17 PM
Oct 2013

"only American-born people can land the role" meaning as long as one parent is an American even if living on foreign soil. Kinda like John McCain born to Americans in Panama. This would apply to Senator Cruz as well even though he was born in Canada, he is the son of an American.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
94. There is more to it than that...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:13 PM
Oct 2013

To be a 'natural born' citizen you have to be born on US soil.
And to be president you have to be a 'natural born' citizen.

McCain was born on a US military base which is considered US soil - so McCain is a 'natural born' citizen.

Ted Cruz was born on Canadian soil and didn't even come to The USA until he was four years old - he is NOT eligible to be president.
Cruz is a US citizen but he is NOT a 'natural born' citizen.



 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
125. Cruz is eligible (though Schwarzenegger isn't)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:11 AM
Oct 2013

You write, "To be a 'natural born' citizen you have to be born on US soil."

The Constitution doesn't say that. The requirement is that you must be a "natural born citizen" and someone like Cruz was entitled to U.S. citizenship at birth.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
45. Law one thing Constitution another...a change takes an amendment.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:31 PM
Oct 2013

Requires 2/3 of both houses and ratification by 38 of the 50 states.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
127. Exactly. The Post is a rag, Page Six is its gossip column, and this is an unsourced item.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:15 AM
Oct 2013

One possibility suggested in this thread is that Schwarzenegger is just trying to get publicity. That's possible, but another strong possibility is that Schwarzenegger hasn't said or done anything at all. Someone came upon an old comment of his about changing the Constitution, the someone told someone else, and when the game of Telephone was over it ended up as a blind item in the gossip column of a newspaper that's called a newspaper only out of courtesy.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
49. What is the crap about the courts allowing voters to decide. That's BS.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe because this is a UK paper they don't understand the courts don't really have any choice but to enforce the natural-born citizen clause. Both his parents are Austrian. He doesn't even have the luxury of Calgary Ted who has a US citizen as a mother.

This is a total non-starter. He's never going see the Constitution changed during his lifetime to allow him to run. He's already 66 and who knows what he did to his body when he was younger with steroids and stuff. Even if someone sponsored the amendment I don't think he'll live long enough to see it ratified. If he does he'll be far too old to run.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
122. and we can let motorists decide if they want to obey traffic laws and signals too Arnie.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:53 AM
Oct 2013

Steroids fuck up your brain kids.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
52. People in hell want ice water too
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

The fact that he doesn't have a clue how long that would take and what is involved should disqualify him also.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
62. From California
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:20 PM
Oct 2013

FUGHEDABOUTIT!

He wouldn't carry Cali so it's a non starter.

He may have been a bad actor but we didn't pay to see a good one. That wasn't the point.

Now as a politician, that's different!

We pay for good ones and get Issas. I would be more concerned in getting rid of those dirtbags!

Ahnold won't be back! Hasta la vista baby!

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
67. have at it, hoss!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:37 PM
Oct 2013

I heartily approve of another massively egoed republican creating another embarrassing and futile sideshow that makes the mainstream GOP shake their heads and look at their shoes.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
78. That's exactly what I'm thinking. There is no way with his personnel
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:06 PM
Oct 2013

baggage he has a chance a to be president. That he is doing this now suggests to me he is doing it for crud.

Bucky

(54,026 posts)
75. Academic questions, but... Would he run as a pro-choice, pro-gay rights Republican?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:56 PM
Oct 2013

Or switch parties and run as a union-busting Democrat?

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
81. I'd like to see a constitutional amendment for that issue.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:00 PM
Oct 2013

Not (god forbid) to see my former governor (gag) to run for president... but to allow my daughter to run for president!

She is only 11, but first got involved with student government (she was elected school secretary) at 9, and she's a natural. But, she was born in a different country to citizens of that country, and she didn't become a US citizen until she arrived in the U.S. at 6 months (after we adopted her). She was kind of bummed to learn about that restriction...

I hadn't realized it until now, but some people have been working to give internationally adopted children rights that are equal to those of children born in this country--including the right to run for president-- through a new law, instead of a constitutional amendment:

http://www.equalityforadoptedchildren.org/legislation/face/section.html

<<S.1359 and H.R. 3110, the Foreign Adopted Children Equality Act (FACE Act).
This bill was introduced on June 25, 2009 by Senators Landrieu (D-LA) and Inhofe (R-OK) and on June 26, 2009 by Congresswoman Watson (D-CA) and Congressman Boozman (R-AR). Following each section of text, is a detailed explanation of the purpose of each provision and the resulting benefits to adopted children and their families should this legislation become law.>>

http://www.equalityforadoptedchildren.org/legislation/face/why_needed.html

<<Finally, the Act also amends Section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401) which defines who is considered an American citizen from birth. This is the section of law that provides automatic U.S. citizenship from birth to biological children born to American citizens abroad. The amendment would add internationally adopted children of American citizens to this section, therefore, providing them with U.S. citizenship from birth. Thus, internationally adopted children of American citizens would have the privilege of two heritages – the heritage of their country of origin and the heritage of their new country and all the benefits that come with being a U.S. citizen from birth including the same opportunity to run for President of the United States as biological children born abroad to American parents.>>

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
83. It's an obnoxious provision
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:06 PM
Oct 2013

that should not have been in the Constitution in the first place and should have been removed by amendment long ago.

But amending the Constitution is the way to do it, not by this method.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
87. unfortunately, the same trick he played on CA could work on the national stage
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:51 PM
Oct 2013

the novelty of having an action hero president will lure low information voters.

Hopefully, the foreigner stuff will turn off enough Republicans.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
131. The Republicans have plenty of nutjob candidates to choose from...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013

without having to waste time trying to get us all to forget about his serial groping, his womanizing, and his out-of-wedlock yard ape.

This article has to be a joke.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
141. their current crop of nutjobs couldn't attract a single swing voter
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:45 PM
Oct 2013

Arnold's personal foibles never even registered here in Caleefornia.

And if his celebrity status could dazzle people in the home state of Hollywood, imagine how he'll go over in states where the most famous person is last year's winner of the hog slaughtering competition at the state fair.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
91. ABSOLUTELY NOT! He messed up California. Enough is enough.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:28 PM
Oct 2013

I don't think this has a chance anyway.

He did not even go to high school in the US. His Austrian accent is so thick that there is no excuse for it. (He is in Hollywood. Speech experts surround him. Why the heavy accent? He is not easy to understand at times.)

"legal paperwork to change the rules"? What is he talking about? It's in the Constitution.

Article II, Section I

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
98. get over yourself!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013

we won't let you fuck up the US like you fucked up California. learned that lesson thanks to Bush.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
100. Yeah, we're going to have a Constitutional Convention, just for YOU!!!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:41 PM
Oct 2013

Because you're so SPECIAL!!!!

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
101. That will take more than a law, it will require a Constitutional Amendment.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

Thanks for the thread, dipsydoodle.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
103. and if he got over those hurdles, he would have to win an election. That would never happen...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:11 PM
Oct 2013

even if Sarah Palin was his running mate.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
115. another idiocy for the GOP to burn their billion$ on
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:18 PM
Oct 2013

they could be helping the poor, education and the environment. Instead, they're going to spend it on Ahnold's Constitutional amendment.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
104. baby mama needs a new set of shoes!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:13 PM
Oct 2013

Ahnold/Edwards on the Procreationist ticket?
Maybe we should pirate his next movie, since the law needs a changing?

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
107. Our best constitutional scholars are in Ireland, dontchaknow?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:35 PM
Oct 2013

Well, yes, it takes two-thirds concurrence of both houses of Congress (and remember always that this Congress couldn't get two-thirds concurrence on a resolution that the Atlantic Ocean is made out of water) but then it also takes two-thirds concurrence of the states. And he wants all this done in two years? Don't we already have plenty of corrupt, incompetent Republicans who meet the Constitutional requirements?

24601

(3,962 posts)
108. Arnold can run. The Constitution says absolutely nothing about running for President. He just
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:44 PM
Oct 2013

can't BE President. Life's tough - deal with it. If I ran a cookie store, it's unlikely I'd change the recipe for one customer. And I feel pretty much the same way about changing the Constitution.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
109. What a moran! I wonder if he could get elected dogcatcher in Alaska nowadays
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:49 PM
Oct 2013

Especially after the way he treated his wife.

Oh, wait.... the Values Summit voters wouldn't have a problem with that, would they? Maybe Ahnuld and the Witch of Wassilla could run on a double ticket.

Recalibrating... recalibrating...

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
113. That's one of the worst written articles I have ever seen.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:10 PM
Oct 2013

At the moment US constitution states that only American-born people can land the role and as the 66-year-old star was born in Austria, it rules him out.

The US Constitution states no such thing. John McCain, for example, was not "American-born".



“Schwarzenegger has been talking openly about working on getting the constitutional rules changed so he can run for president in 2016. He is ready to file legal paperwork to challenge the rules,” an insider told New York Post.

Advocating for a Constitutional Amendment is not "filing legal paperwork to challenge the rules".



For the change to go ahead, the Hollywood hard-man would need the backing of two thirds of the House and the Senate.

And don't forget three quarters of the state legislatures.



It has been claimed that although the law is pretty clear on the topic, court may decide to let politicians decide if a US citizen who was born elsewhere – like Arnold – staged a campaign.

Did this come from Google Translate?


wordpix

(18,652 posts)
114. hail mary pass thrown by GOP looking at the Cruz-led clown car
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:15 PM
Oct 2013

The Gropernator looks like a winner compared to the other clowns

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
116. His first challenge will be actually finding this "law".
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:34 PM
Oct 2013

As it doesn't exist. The Constitution bars non-native citizens from being president. Also, I should think him being an asshat would be a disqualifying factor as well.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
120. In the spirit of compromise, let's meet him half way.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:28 AM
Oct 2013

I propose that we support amending the Constitution to eliminate the natural born citizen clause if we can also do away with the 22nd Amendment. That should have the Neocons howling in the aisles.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
121. FU Arnold!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:41 AM
Oct 2013

I guess all those years of mega steroid use really went to Arnold's brain!

We already got a narcissistic, pea-brained, non-NBC jackass teabagger running for prez named Cruz.

One is too many let alone two!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
126. Well, even if it comes to a vote...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:13 AM
Oct 2013

The dude will be nearing a hundred by the time more than even ten states ratify it. Amendments don't happen fast.

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