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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:41 PM Oct 2013

Canadian hamlet evacuated after oil train crash causes huge blaze

Source: Associated Press

Associated Press in Gainford, Alberta
theguardian.com, Saturday 19 October 2013 17.09 BST

Emergency crews are battling a huge fire after a Canadian National tanker train carrying oil and gas derailed west of Edmonton, Alberta, overnight. No injuries have been reported so far.

A Canadian National spokesman, Louis-Antoine Paquin, said on Saturday that 13 cars four carrying petroleum crude oil and nine loaded with liquified petroleum gas came off the tracks around 1am local time in the hamlet of Gainford, about 50 miles from Edmonton. The entire community of roughly 100 people has been evacuated.

Paquin said three cars containing gas were leaking and on fire. Officials say that poses the risk of an explosion.

In July, a runaway oil train derailed and several cars exploded in a small Quebec town, Lac-Mégantic, killing 47 people and destroying the downtown area.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/19/canada-rail-fire-derailment

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Canadian hamlet evacuated after oil train crash causes huge blaze (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2013 OP
Ottowa, we have a problem pscot Oct 2013 #1
Ottawa *is* the problem these days. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #3
Ottawa has gone all Republicon Family "Values" - Great White North Style Berlum Oct 2013 #7
Alberta also, but... Amonester Oct 2013 #8
Well, that's what happens when you don't maintain your tracks, which CN doesn't. Brickbat Oct 2013 #2
Privatization is just another scheme, at least here in the US. I am sure it is there, too. nt silvershadow Oct 2013 #5
They insist they inspected the track on Thursday laundry_queen Oct 2013 #9
Our rail systems (CP and CN) are both pieces of shit. ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #10
Just one more justification Plucketeer Oct 2013 #4
Aw, fer Chrissake--the CN RR Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #6

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
8. Alberta also, but...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:05 AM
Oct 2013

Conservatives are so 'in love' (for decades) with their provincial Con$ervative Party for everything OIL, they would have no remorses if the entire planet was to be polluted to no end as long as they wouldn't have to pay more taxes!

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
2. Well, that's what happens when you don't maintain your tracks, which CN doesn't.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Gainford+evacuated+emergency+crews+battle+massive+fire/9057492/story.html
Gainford is about 20 kilometres west of Wabamun, where on Aug. 3, 2005, 43 cars of a westbound CN freight train derailed, spilling 700,000 litres of heavy fuel oil and 88,000 litres of pole treating oil into and around Wabamun Lake, and forcing the evacuation of 20 people.

The Transportation Safety Board investigation found that the train derailed when the rail beneath it broke due to defects.

CN pleaded guilty to three charges under provincial and federal environmental legislation and was fined $1.4 million.


Fines mean nothing when you boost profits by slashing maintenance and repair crews and costs. Ever since privatization, CN has been a slave to the quarterly report.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
9. They insist they inspected the track on Thursday
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:56 AM
Oct 2013

but after the whole CP bridge incident in Calgary after the floods, who knows what the quality of that inspection was.

Reading some of the comments after these articles, more than one person mentioned all these train derailments being possible corporate sabotage to promote the Keystone XL and Northern Gateway pipelines. Not sure I'm ready to go there yet - the old saying about attributing to malice what is more likely stupidity or whatever the quote is....

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
10. Our rail systems (CP and CN) are both pieces of shit.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:18 AM
Oct 2013

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I worked for 3-1/2 years for CP rail as a "maintainer" - that's as a mechanic (of which I was the ONLY one trained and licenced out of 40 in my area) that repairs the machines that maintain the tracks.

As a maintainer I was stationed to work on the "gangs" in the spring to fall time, "gangs" being men out on the track camps where the repairs/maintenance were happening on the tracks - so I spent a fair bit of time on the rails.

Our best tracks at the time could barely handle 50mph - many tracks operated on "safe" speed of only 15 - 20mph - anything faster than that was dangerous.

We will never have high speed rail like China, Japan, and some European countries - our tracks are just plain too shoddy.

When CP rail was "born" - tough negotiations for the CP Rail land they now own outright included a caveat that CP Rail would provide passenger service for at least 100 years, gov't figured it would be no problem to renegotiate renewal at that time.

WRONG - exactly 100 years later, CP Rail discontinued passenger service.

In my short career at CP - I quickly became the Health and Safety Coordinator on the Employee side - and believe me, it was a battle to get CP Rail to follow their OWN safety regulations, and an even harder battle to get CP Rail to comply with our Labor laws.

I watched and heard as fellow employees got injured, even killed as a result of lax safety regulation compliance, all to save a buck.

I even attended one ceremony where a fellow employee got an AWARD for his action on a live track, strictly against the regulations - because his action kept the track from being closed - BUT HIS ACTION WAS STRICTLY AGAINST CP's OWN RULES!

"Emergency" on CP Rails tracks was not a man injured, - it was when a freight train might have to stop or slow down because track repair was not on schedule.

"Emergency" was/is a drop in profits,

not men's lives nor safety.

Sad that.

CC

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
4. Just one more justification
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:08 PM
Oct 2013

for the USA to embrace the accident-proof XL pipeline. A boon-to-oil-companies boondoggle that'll create a couple dozen jobs in the long run to provide gasoline and diesel for far off lands. Lands where they get the "fills" and we get the spills. What a great country we endure.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. Aw, fer Chrissake--the CN RR
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:40 PM
Oct 2013

delivers all that free heat to them and they got the nerve to bitch about it.

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