Train kills 2 track workers amid SF Bay strike
Source: AP-Excite
By TERRY COLLINS and TRACIE CONE
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - A commuter train that is part of a San Francisco Bay Area system whose employees are on strike hit and killed two maintenance workers Saturday afternoon, officials said.
The accident that killed one system employee and one contractor in the East Bay city of Walnut Creek occurred shortly before 2 p.m. as the train was on a routine maintenance run operated by a manager, Bay Area Rapid Transit officials said.
"This is a tragic day in BART's history," the system's general manager, Grace Crunican, said in a statement. "The entire BART family is grieving."
BART officials said in a statement that the manager was an "experienced operator" and the four-car train was being run in automatic mode under computer control at the time of the accident.
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With the BART transit system on strike, traffic is backed up for blocks on Battery Street leading to an artery of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge during the evening commute Friday, Oct. 18, 2013, in San Francisco. San Francisco Bay Area rapid transit workers are on strike for the second time since July, scrambling the morning commute for hundreds of thousands of workers who were up before dawn to clog highways, swarm buses and shiver on ferry decks as they found alternative ways to the office. About 400,000 riders take BART every weekday on the nation's fifth-largest commuter rail system. (AP Photo/Eric Risberg)
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)I am sorry for the killed workers. Were they not part of the union?
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Often. ..the railroad is a dangerous place union or not the same rules and enforcement apply per the fra.
pothos
(154 posts)it sounds like the train was being operated by one of the managers that BART has said they will use to replace the regular union operators with. this is sort of a sad way to prove a point those people are skilled and can't just be replaced by some rando.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)What a waste
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)These people should have had the proper training.
It's possible some strike-related mechanisms weren't in place, but it's unlikely.
More probably, it was an unfortunate, freak accident.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)A technician on the train is asked to check for bodies and he reports the first one on the trackway. A "second victim" is then reported 50 yards away on Track C-1.
The male train operator reports that "both are deceased and definitely BART employees."
On another recording, a woman can be heard announcing that "There are no personnel wayside (adjacent to the tracks)."
Within five seconds, a second voice can be heard contradicting that report: "Attention all personnel: We do have personnel wayside between C-40 and C-50 on the C1 and C2 tracks."
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_24345865/bart-train-strikes-two-people-near-walnut-creek
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)It may or may not have been related to the strike, but either someone did not follow a procedure or there is a procedure that should be changed. A person should not have a chance to randomly die in the course of performing their job on a day to day basis.
Seeing to that is one of the purposes of unions, actually.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)and compounded by a communications breakdown that may have been related to the strike.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)The company was in a severe 'cut costs' mode due to Michael Eisner's decree that every department had to show increased profits every year, no matter what.
One way some departments cut costs was to assign supervisors to regular employee jobs to cut down on the amount of people they had to hire.
A supervisor was assigned to help dock the boat to the pier but hadn't gone through the full training for the position.
The boat is supposed to move past the dock a little bit and then slowly back up.
The ship's rope is tossed over a metal pylon on the pier to secure it as it backs up.
The supervisor tossed the rope over the pylon while the boat was going forward which ripped it out of the deck and tossed it into the waiting crowd, killing one man.
The lawsuit was settled out of court as Disney always does so no one knows what the final settlement was.
Disneyland is not under those restrictions today.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Either way, sorry to hear it.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)They may have been non-union to begin with. The operator was a part the management who came in to do the job of the the union workers.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)learn that trade Union members are extensively trained, OTJ and in the classroom, for years (the training in Carpentry is 4 years before you become a Journeyman with an Associates degree) and deserve living wages.
I spent 13 years as a non-Union carpenter (because I bought into the Contractor spiel about the corrupt Unions taking our money). How stupid I was.
After all of my experience ( I had been trained by the contractor run American Building Contractors and had many certifications), I tested out as a Journeyman when I joined the Union) I learned more, by attending Union certification training, in one year than the "independently" sponsored "ABC" ever taught me.
The pay, being treated as a professional, benefits, etc.. improved me and my family's standard of living greatly and I became a much better and safer carpenter.
Europe and many other countries have come to realize that a Union workforce is the best and the extra money paid to the professional workers is a great investment.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)life is cheap to them.
alp227
(32,062 posts)AP website: 2 BART workers killed after being struck by train
San Francisco Chronicle: 2 BART workers killed by train in Walnut Creek
Contra Costa Times: National Transportation Safety Board takes over BART tragedy investigation
Bay Area News Group: Two BART workers killed during maintenance work as strike moves into third day