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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:49 AM Oct 2013

GOP, Boehner take shutdown hit in new CNN poll

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) -- Just more than half the public says that it's bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives, according to a new national poll conducted after the end of the partial government shutdown.

And the CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that more than six in 10 Americans say that Speaker of the House John Boehner should be replaced.

The poll was conducted Friday through Sunday, just after the end of the 16-day partial federal government shutdown that was caused in part by a push by House conservatives to try and dismantle the health care law, which is President Barack Obama's signature domestic achievement.

According to the survey, 54% say it's a bad thing that the GOP controls the House, up 11 points from last December, soon after the 2012 elections when the Republicans kept control of the chamber. Only 38% say it's a good thing the GOP controls the House, a 13-point dive from the end of last year.


Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/21/politics/cnn-poll-gop-boehner-shutdown/index.html

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GOP, Boehner take shutdown hit in new CNN poll (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 OP
The election is a long ways off and most people have short memories davidpdx Oct 2013 #1
If we keep driving this point home constantly via social media LiberalFighter Oct 2013 #13
Boehner has a primary challenger, from the very extreme Tea Party coalition Major Hogwash Oct 2013 #17
That's good that he does davidpdx Oct 2013 #20
I really wish the elections were this year. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #21
Too bad we Americans have such short memories. damyank913 Oct 2013 #2
It's up to Democrats at all levels to drive this issue home cloudythescribbler Oct 2013 #3
First let me say thank you. daybranch Oct 2013 #8
That is the crux of the matter tavernier Oct 2013 #12
YESSSSSSSS REPLACE BOEHNER......Should be a PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US!!!!! n/t onecent Oct 2013 #4
I am working on it by fighting Gerrymandering in Ohio. daybranch Oct 2013 #9
Yeppers, sure will and I will post things in forums to help you get onecent Oct 2013 #16
...and Turtle McConnel. L0oniX Oct 2013 #18
Replace Boner with Pelosi RoccoR5955 Oct 2013 #5
fighting Gerrymandering daybranch Oct 2013 #10
really, "just more than half"? tomp Oct 2013 #6
Wondering The Wizard Oct 2013 #7
People will say that for the whole GOP, but then they should be asked if they'll vote Fla Dem Oct 2013 #11
Given that it's a CNN poll durablend Oct 2013 #14
The election is a long way off. True but.. workinclasszero Oct 2013 #15
FINISH THEM Blue Owl Oct 2013 #19

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
1. The election is a long ways off and most people have short memories
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:45 AM
Oct 2013

I think a lot depends on what happens early next year. I want to believe these assholes will be punished bad in the mid-terms, but so many of those seats are solid red it may not make much of a difference.

LiberalFighter

(51,103 posts)
13. If we keep driving this point home constantly via social media
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:33 AM
Oct 2013

that short memory thing can be defeated.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
17. Boehner has a primary challenger, from the very extreme Tea Party coalition
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:40 AM
Oct 2013

So, Boehner's primary is not very long from now.
I don't think Boehner will survive his next election, which is just 6 months away.

cloudythescribbler

(2,586 posts)
3. It's up to Democrats at all levels to drive this issue home
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:05 AM
Oct 2013

Sure people have short memories.

But starting from the top with Obama, the Democrats need to pound issues home. In particular, the current trajectory is for a chipping away at Social Security and Medicare with shutdowns and debt ceiling threats in the background as powerful GOP leverage

Obama and Democrats instead should highlight: first, the gerrymandority enjoyed by the GOP, with a focus on states like WI, MI, PA, and FL where Republicans have overwhelming advantages in House representations in states that trend blue in federal election voting. These states need a focus on STATE government elections, where the gerrymandering is decided

The fact that in response to the election of 2012, the shutdown and debt ceiling threat was the GOP's main response, planned many months beforehand, and not just some errant trend from a small teabagger minority

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
8. First let me say thank you.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:13 AM
Oct 2013

As a defacto leader of a group of approximately 200 in Ohio who have signed on to fight Gerrymandering.
However I am puzzled why you did not include Ohio in your list of states named. The article itself says Boehner is very unpopular across the country but again he is not elected from across the country but rather from his highly contorted district here in Ohio/ How ids he doing in his district?/ That is what counts and for these articles to continue to pretend that national preferences have much to do with which members of the US House gets elected in the states is hiding the truth and doing a disservice to our efforts.

tavernier

(12,406 posts)
12. That is the crux of the matter
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:30 AM
Oct 2013

and a very logical and necessary explanation.

Just one question? Why are you injecting reason into a conversation when you know darn well that the media prefers to compare all things in America to sports... Don't you understand? The score says we are winning! Facts be damned!

(Btw, thank you for fighting the good fight, especially in Ohio ) xxxx

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
9. I am working on it by fighting Gerrymandering in Ohio.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:16 AM
Oct 2013

What are you doing to accomplish this? Will you make phone calls, knock on doors, contribute money, recruit others to do these things , what??

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
10. fighting Gerrymandering
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:20 AM
Oct 2013

wherever it exists and by which ever party does it would be a great start. If Ohio's political makeup was in proportion to its voter preference we would have 4 more dems and 4 less republicans. Considering that many undecided would vote dem after the twin fiascos brought on by the GOP , we might get more than 4 if no Gerrymandering existed here.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
6. really, "just more than half"?
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:25 AM
Oct 2013

sounds like the way most election go with one party beating out the other by a few percentage points. is there any other indication that america has really learned anything?

The Wizard

(12,549 posts)
7. Wondering
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:42 AM
Oct 2013

how those numbers translate in comparison to the Democrats' 1.5 million advantage in total House votes in 2012 that resulted in a large Republican majority. Democracy has been gamed by Karl Rove, who for my money, is the biggest threat to democracy and liberty on the political landscape. He belongs in prison, not masterminding one of our major political party's strategy to corrupt every facet of government.

Fla Dem

(23,765 posts)
11. People will say that for the whole GOP, but then they should be asked if they'll vote
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:27 AM
Oct 2013

for their specific congressperson.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. The election is a long way off. True but..
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

Do you think those batshit insane teabaggers are going to shut their pie holes and act normal till then?

Really??

They plan on shutting down the govt again as soon as this short funding bill runs out early next year and do another 20 plus billion hit on the economy while throwing 7 or 8 hundred thousand govt workers out on the street again.

They don't give a damn about any poll that goes against their toxic extremist religion. Its those skewed lib-rul polls again! LOL

They can do it on and off all year long right up until the election while Rush Limpballs and his minions on hate radio egg them on.

Reality has no power on true believers like Bachmann and Cruz. We must cut these anti american cultists out of politics like the cancer they are.

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