U.S. drone strikes break international law, report finds
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Source: Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
The United States government has carried out some targeted airstrikes against alleged terrorists in Yemen and violated international law, says a new report released by Human Rights Watch Tuesday.
The organization's 97-page report examines six incidents, most using armed drones, from 2009-13. At least 57 civilians died because of the strikes, which killed 82 people.
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"Yemenis told us that these strikes make them fear the US as much as they fear Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula," said Tayler.
All six attacks either killed civilians indiscriminately, targeted illegitimate military objectives or caused disproportionate civilian deaths, according to the report.
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Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-s-drone-strikes-break-international-law-report-finds-1.2129761
Note: Amnesty International released a seperate report today.
bananas
(27,509 posts)This article has links to the report pdf.
It also mentions that Amnesty International issued a seperate report.
US: Reassess Targeted Killings in Yemen
Inquiry into 6 Airstrikes Finds Violations, Harm to Civilians
OCTOBER 22, 2013
United States targeted airstrikes against alleged terrorists in Yemen have killed civilians in violation of international law, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. The strikes, often using armed drones, are creating a public backlash that undermines US efforts against Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).
The 102-page report, Between a Drone and Al-Qaeda: The Civilian Cost of US Targeted Killings in Yemen,examines six US targeted killings in Yemen, one from 2009 and the rest from 2012-2013. Two of the attacks killed civilians indiscriminately in clear violation of the laws of war; the others may have targeted people who were not legitimate military objectives or caused disproportionate civilian deaths.
The US says it is taking all possible precautions during targeted killings, but it has unlawfully killed civilians and struck questionable military targets in Yemen, said Letta Tayler, senior terrorism and counterterrorism researcher at Human Rights Watch and the author of the report. Yemenis told us that these strikes make them fear the US as much as they fear Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
Human Rights Watch released Between a Drone and Al-Qaeda in a joint news conference on October 22, 2013, with Amnesty International, which issued its own report on US drone strikes in Pakistan.
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Ash_F
(5,861 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)if they just personally don't like President Obama for some reason, or if they're all just racists.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)American airstrikes in Yemen kill more civilians than terrorists HRW report :
A new report by Human Rights Watch once again confirms that Hellfire rockets lack selectivity and exterminate women and children more often than they hit Al-Qaeda associates. Last month the UN urged the US to reveal data on civilian drone casualties.
The prominent human rights organization has released a detailed 102-page report on the US drone attacks and airstrikes in Yemen against militants of the Al-Qaeda wing in the country simultaneously with another human rights organization Amnesty International issuing a report on US drone strikes in Pakistan.
Basically, the HRW report has maintained an already widely-known fact that civilians die too often in reported surgical strikes which is unacceptable even by the law of war.
http://rt.com/news/yemen-drone-strikes-report-538/
Hit "102-page report".
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)in targeted killing strikes without a court ruling, but calls to minimize civilian casualties in the process."
It would be nice to see these organizations do some critical analysis of the rationalizations for US aggression in the world. There is clearly a Western bias here, but I guess the 'reports' are better than nothing.
riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)Famous in 1970? I love this Canadian band.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)You think our government would have a problem with foreign owned unmanned planes flying around our cities looking to kill war criminals like Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz?
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)Except for the collateral damage. Why not do it the Kennedy way, instead?
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)RC
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marble falls
(57,102 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)to their apologizing/support for all this should we one day recieve a report like this.
Maybe if it's ignored it'll go away.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Even the countries they use drones to take out listed Al-Qaeda leadership seem happy to have them gone. Though no one is happy about innocents killed.
much better than bush days where they target an entire palace or huge building or car convoy and fry everyone.
glowing
(12,233 posts)are dead or maimed how "surgical" the air strike was.
Also, by using an unmanned drone to fly over sovereign countries air zones that we have not declared war upon is somehow ok? What happens when these other countries make or begin obtaining drones? I would think this indescriminate acts of aggression are only going to create more tensions in these volatile regions of the world. Chickens and roosting come to mind.
If we continue to use violence to take out the "bad guys" and the people who just happen to live or be in the same place one of these drone missiles are fired, they aren't safer? Their families will be pissed off, and will be moe likely to become influenced by factions on the ground who come in and help pay for funerals and cost of living arrangements and to become radicalized theirselves.
If we continue down this violent path, in 50yrs, we may be looking at a world where it is unsafe to live or work or shop anywhere. If Al Queada got their hands on drones and the technology, I could see embassies and military bases abroad being attacked first... Escalating to an all out worldwide conflict.
Some of the technology with these drones is astounding... The "Mosquito drones" that literally can place a "fly on the wall"... How long before these tiny bugs can land in a drink and deliver a lethal dose of poison (not that I'm trying to give people better ideas on how to kill other people).
Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)The more the USA is hated and despised, the more money they make.
wundermaus
(1,673 posts)Flying remote controlled killing machines over a sovereign country and executing people (guilty and innocent) without judicial process is against "international" law? Surely you must jest! Americans interests trump all others... include life. Until the international community does something (go ahead, pick an appropriate punishment) and stops this sort of imperial, tyrannical, sociopathic behavior, the world ain't seen nothing yet. Just for rhetorical emphasis, how would you feel about somebody flying machines over your heads from another country that kill you (and anyone you care about) at any time,without notice, and with impunity? Would that piss you off? Would you go to the ends of the earth to settle that score? Just saying... Boys and girls, we are the terrorists. And at the very least, we create them. There is a tiny corner of the brain were empathy resides... find it and use it.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)Response to bananas (Original post)
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davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Many of us here have been arguing against the drone strikes since they first began. -This- is a good example of why we were against this type of warfare. Are we to become the new terrorist threat of the world? How damned despicable and sad that the world's most powerful Nation, most powerful military, should end up being feared and loathed as much as the terrorists we fight.
Imagine, if we can use these drones to kill... could we perhaps, use them instead to drop food and water? To deliver supplies to the world's hungriest people? Might we earn the good will of the world by dropping bread instead of bombs?
What's happening here is very, very wrong - and what goes around tends to come around. If these are the weapons of the future, it is only a matter of time until someone, or some group, comes up with a way to use them against us. Is it really far fetched to think our own government might use them to eliminate "domestic terrorists"?
Regardless... these are machines, programmed and operated by us, that are killing innocent people. People who didn't do a damn thing to deserve it. At this time, no one is standing up to the great bully that we have become... but in years to come, the world will remember what we have done here. Another chapter of deep shame will be added to our history.
What will the end toll in suffering and death become? How long before the Nations of the world unite to punish us for our arrogance and lack of compassion?
Ace Acme
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We already are. What American said "The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today {is} my own government"?
When did he say it?
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Mojo Electro
(362 posts)What I mean by that is that is, it seems less like warfare and more like just people getting whacked. People who could cause you some trouble down the road being taken of of the picture.