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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:00 AM Oct 2013

Ted Cruz's Wife Confirms He's Covered Under Her Blue-Chip Health Plan

Source: Talking Points Memo

The wife of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who led a vocal effort to defund the Affordable Care Act, confirmed in a New York Times interview published Wednesday that the senator receives health care coverage through her blue-chip employer insurance plan.

"Ted is on my health care plan," Heidi Nelson Cruz, a Houston-based managing director for Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs, told the newspaper.

A spokeswoman for the Texas senator confirmed the coverage to the Times, which was worth at least $20,000 a year, according to Goldman.

“The senator is on his wife’s plan, which comes at no cost to the taxpayer and reflects a personal decision about what works best for their family,” spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-s-wife-confirms-he-s-covered-under-her-blue-chip-health-plan

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Ted Cruz's Wife Confirms He's Covered Under Her Blue-Chip Health Plan (Original Post) antigop Oct 2013 OP
At least 20K, or safeinOhio Oct 2013 #1
As are many Americans. Not sure what the point is here? Mass Oct 2013 #2
You and me both harun Oct 2013 #3
The point the ARE making, whether or not it is the point they are trying to make, pangaia Oct 2013 #4
Yeah - this plays right along with Plucketeer Oct 2013 #14
Cruz message= I got mine sucks to be you. IADEMO2004 Oct 2013 #8
can't understand why people are being so obtuse about this frylock Oct 2013 #17
It's easier to champion against something when you already have a viable alternative. Hosnon Oct 2013 #27
It's about time.... AnneD Oct 2013 #5
He probably should be, because he's facing a lifetime of people spitting in his food or worse. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #6
One day, Goldman may decide to drop a spouse BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #7
"...at no cost to the taxpayer...." isn't exactly true, is it? Tanuki Oct 2013 #9
Bravo - Well Done! HenryWallace Oct 2013 #21
Actually, it would be included in her benefits package, Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #22
You miss the point! HenryWallace Oct 2013 #28
I totally agree Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #29
"We're special. We're Rich Republicon 1% EeeLeetes. Smirk." - Le Cruzers (R - Special) Berlum Oct 2013 #10
You really nailed it, watoos Oct 2013 #11
Remember, "Personal Responsibility" means "F You, I've Got Mine" DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #12
yeah imagine that, fucking self ceneterd asswipes gopiscrap Oct 2013 #13
"Hey, I'm secure. Praise Almighty God and screw everyone else" Zambero Oct 2013 #15
Amen. jsr Oct 2013 #16
Personal Decision PMcDee Oct 2013 #18
!!! NCagainstMcCrony Oct 2013 #19
I don't care what kind of health coverage he has. Brigid Oct 2013 #20
Doesn't he realize that not all people have the privilege of choice? Beacool Oct 2013 #23
Ah, but for those people freedom of choice is precisely what they get with the ACA! CTyankee Oct 2013 #24
These jerks only care about themselves. Beacool Oct 2013 #25
Ilove DU because there are so many like you here. CTyankee Oct 2013 #30
Same here. Beacool Oct 2013 #31
I still find it strange that she is the VP and MD of the most powerful firm on Wall Street CJCRANE Oct 2013 #26

Mass

(27,315 posts)
2. As are many Americans. Not sure what the point is here?
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:12 AM
Oct 2013

I have no doubt Goldman Sachs has a decent group insurance and that they can pay any copay and deductibles without problems. I am not sure what point they are trying to make?


pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. The point the ARE making, whether or not it is the point they are trying to make,
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:20 AM
Oct 2013

is that they are so fucking rich they actually CAN 'make personal decisions,' whereas millions upon millions of Americans don't have the financial strength to make those kinds of decisions.
The richest pricks always talk like that.

"Oh sweetie poo, (you poor little scum) tut, tut, I just made a personal decision to but another boat this year. You should really try it some time, you know. Oh, my ! Tsk Tsk. It is just so, dahling."

AND my dear Heidi's spokesperson, goldman sucks DOES cost taxpayers millions upon millions.... billions?, because of their corrupt, greed-driven, immoral behavior.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. Yeah - this plays right along with
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:20 AM
Oct 2013

the CEO of McDonalds responding to the disgruntled employee that so boldly stood up and asked why she was only making minimum wages after TEN years of working for the company. The CEO simply responded that he'd been with the firm FORTY years! Never mind that 52% of fast food workers get SOME kind(S) of government support because they live in poverty.
Heck, by that CEOs logic, she should be making one fourth of what he is - and I'll be that's a DAMNED SIGHT more than she takes home every week. OH...... BTW, it's WE that pick up the tab for all those social programs that McDonalds relies on. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
27. It's easier to champion against something when you already have a viable alternative.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:42 AM
Oct 2013

Were he poised to lose his insurance if Congress were required to go through the exchanges, his position would be more legitimate.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
5. It's about time....
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013

the hypocrite be exposed for what he is.

Edited to add: I wonder who Goldman Sachs was betting on in the build up to the potential default.

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
9. "...at no cost to the taxpayer...." isn't exactly true, is it?
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

Presumably, Mrs. Cruz' employer, Goldman Sachs, writes off the cost of providing health care as a business expense, thus lowering their tax burden and in effect shifting it to all other taxpayers. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about this.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
21. Bravo - Well Done!
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 06:44 PM
Oct 2013

“The senator is on his wife’s plan, which comes at no cost to the taxpayer and reflects a personal decision about what works best for their family,” spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said.
__________

The American Taxpayers subsidizes her non-taxable employee benefit. She earned $20,000, she choose to take it as a non-taxable fringe benefit deductible to the Corporation and not includable in her taxable income.

It is altogether proper that the Government should encourage these types of expenditures!

But, don't pretend that the Government hasn't made a $7,000. subsidy payment directly to her (20,000. x 35% (the top marginal income tax rate that she avoided)).

The uninsured pay for their entire health care generally with after tax dollars! Their expenses are not "tax favored" unless they have taxable income, itemize their deductions, and their deductions exceed 10% of their AGI (it happens, but not very often).

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
22. Actually, it would be included in her benefits package,
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 07:23 PM
Oct 2013

and so is not a visible tax benefit to her, although she does profit from it. She would, however, be able to pay for any amount that she pays for in her paycheck with before tax dollars. That's before ALL taxes, including Social Security and Medicare. So on that you are accurate.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
28. You miss the point!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:08 PM
Oct 2013

Compensation is compensation, whether it is included in a "benefits package" or not; whether it is "visible" or not.

If her compensations is $300,000/yr, it is highly likely that her taxable income might be $250,000.

Nontaxable benefits include:
* Health, Life & Disability Insurance.
* Qualified Retirement Plan (in her case probably a Defined Benefit Plan rather than smaller 401(k) deferral increasingly offered by employers).
* Flexible spending arrangements, educational assistance programs, childcare assistance, and on and on!

Most nontaxable fringe benefits are directed at worthy behaviors, from a societal stand point.
However, there is a cost to society of all these benefits and delivering these benefits through our system of taxation means that highly compensated individuals cost the most (or stated differently, they benefit the most).

The basic injustice of our system can be illustrated as follows:

A $10/hr Single individual must earn over $100 in order to pay a $75 doctor bill; Mrs. Cruz only has to earn $75 to pay the same bill!

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
29. I totally agree
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:19 PM
Oct 2013

I bought a house because I got to an income level where it made no sense to continue renting. When I did that, I got on the gravy train you describe: because of the tax savings from the mortgage and property tax deductions, I was able to contribute a larger amount to my 401(k), which of course knocked my taxes down even more, which allowed me to pay for a better medical plan, which knocked my taxes down even more…It amazed me. A corporate employee making a large income like Mrs. Cruz is the most favored individual there is in our tax system.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
10. "We're special. We're Rich Republicon 1% EeeLeetes. Smirk." - Le Cruzers (R - Special)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:58 AM
Oct 2013

"So you poor pathetic American proles can just sit down and STFU. Smirk."

- Le Cruzers (R - Special)

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. You really nailed it,
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:29 AM
Oct 2013

Cruz is a Dominionist, a chosen one to whom riches are given. His father gave a sermon about it last year at one of those huge Evangelical churches.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
15. "Hey, I'm secure. Praise Almighty God and screw everyone else"
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:49 AM
Oct 2013

If God really gave a shit about you, he'd intercede and set you up with someone who took care of your needs. So let it be known, I'm one of the righteous ones basking in the glory of God's goodness. Lucky me, and too bad about you people. On orders from God, I will work tirelessly to deny you the things that God has determined you are not worthy of.

PMcDee

(43 posts)
18. Personal Decision
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:50 PM
Oct 2013

“The senator is on his wife’s plan, which comes at no cost to the taxpayer and reflects a personal decision about what works best for their family,” spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said.

So Ted gets to make a personal decision about what works best for his family and mine as well.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
20. I don't care what kind of health coverage he has.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:05 PM
Oct 2013

I just want to know why I still can't get any because this stupid state won't set up an exchange and won't expand Medicaid!

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
23. Doesn't he realize that not all people have the privilege of choice?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:18 AM
Oct 2013

There are millions of people who cannot make the decision of "what's best for their family", as they have no insurance at all.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. Ah, but for those people freedom of choice is precisely what they get with the ACA!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:57 AM
Oct 2013

Surely the Senator knows this...

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
25. These jerks only care about themselves.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:42 AM
Oct 2013

I heard on the radio this morning some RW British guy who works for Fox going on and on about how bad Obamacare was and that it was just a step away from socialized medicine. My thoughts were, if that's the case, then it's a good thing.

I don't get the mind set of people who only care about getting theirs, but have zero compassion for those who are not as privileged. I have good health coverage through my job, but that doesn't mean that I don't give a fig about the rest of the nation. Besides, in this economy, I could be unemployed in the near future. No one knows what the future holds.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
30. Ilove DU because there are so many like you here.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:02 PM
Oct 2013

It's wonderful to be in a mostly caring community...thank you!

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
26. I still find it strange that she is the VP and MD of the most powerful firm on Wall Street
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

yet her husband is the darling of the Tea Party which is supposed to be against everything she stands for.

There is just a huge disconnect there.

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