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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 05:38 PM Oct 2013

Oliver Stone, John Cusack star in anti-NSA PSA

Source: CBS News

Oliver Stone and John Cusack are no fans of the National Security Agency.

They appear with Maggie Gyllenhaal, Wil Wheaton and Phil Donahue in a new public service announcement decrying the NSA's surveillance tactics on Americans.

"Every American is at risk of getting caught up in the NSA dragnet," Stone said, with Cusack adding, "including ordinary citizens not suspected of a crime."

The PSA also includes social activists, scholars and NSA whistleblowers, many of whom draw parallels with today's monitoring to the way Richard Nixon spied on journalists and political foes during his presidency.

"It was wrong then and it's wrong now," Cusack says in the PSA, which was produced in the lead-up to the Stop Watching Us: Rally Against Mass Surveillance in Washington, D.C. on Saturday...

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57609155/oliver-stone-john-cusack-star-in-anti-nsa-psa/



The video:

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Oliver Stone, John Cusack star in anti-NSA PSA (Original Post) Indi Guy Oct 2013 OP
brilliant Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #1
Yes brilliant. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #9
excellent grasswire Oct 2013 #2
Great vid. NealK Oct 2013 #3
I thought it was extremely well done... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #30
BIG K&R Electric Monk Oct 2013 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #5
You're welcome Uncle Joe. IMO this needs... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #11
I approve this message. nt Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #6
Kicking again ... Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #7
It should be on the front page of every site... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #18
Don't mind if I do. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #24
A Very Important Video! supercats Oct 2013 #8
marking for a later watch. progressoid Oct 2013 #10
K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2013 #12
It is imperative that we reign in debunkthis Oct 2013 #13
Welcome to DU debunkthis. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #15
FINALLY getting some traction. If there's a more liberal cause, I don't know of it. n/t Psephos Oct 2013 #14
I would say that I don't know of a more 'American' cause. n/t Indi Guy Oct 2013 #16
Do you hear this, Mr. President? Enthusiast Oct 2013 #17
The administration seems to be somewhat tone-deaf... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #20
K&R Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #19
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2013 #21
Excellent! n/t bobGandolf Oct 2013 #22
"Revalations that heve emerged in the past few months from whistleblower Edward Snowden an others... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #23
DURec! bvar22 Oct 2013 #25
Amazing how the surveillance apologists are agreeing with the video. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #27
It's because the only president featured it in is a repuke who died 20 years ago. hughee99 Oct 2013 #31
Good point. However, we must all face up to the reality that Qbama has really dropped the ball here Indi Guy Oct 2013 #33
I doubt anyone who was elected to govern knows everything done by hedgehog Oct 2013 #26
Presidents come & go... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #29
Kick! sarcasmo Oct 2013 #28
They're just racists who didn't get their ponies Doctor_J Oct 2013 #32
Kick! NealK Oct 2013 #34
K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #35

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
30. I thought it was extremely well done...
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:45 AM
Oct 2013

...and that the real danger to our Constitutionally guaranteed rights under the law was brought to light in a highly effective way.

All the Snowden haters appear to feel the same.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
11. You're welcome Uncle Joe. IMO this needs...
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:44 PM
Oct 2013

...to be seen by all those who have any interest whatsoever in preserving our Constitution.

We haven't seen the naysayers chime in yet. Do you think that thoughts presented here are so powerful that the vilipenders are rendered mute?

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
18. It should be on the front page of every site...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:45 AM
Oct 2013

...that expresses respect for our Constitution -- the very foundation of our rule of law. Keep on kickin' FA.

 

debunkthis

(99 posts)
13. It is imperative that we reign in
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:57 AM
Oct 2013

the NSA in order to protect our human and constitutional rights! The United States cannot be simultaneously an open democracy and a secretive police state. These are mutually exclusive...

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
15. Welcome to DU debunkthis.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:25 AM
Oct 2013

The guise of "national security" has traditionally been & still is a veil behind which the assertion of "plausible deniability" is made by those who subvert our Constitution.

This gray is now being exploited to the heretofore unimaginable levels.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
20. The administration seems to be somewhat tone-deaf...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:44 PM
Oct 2013

...where it comes to the American peoples' voice on this essential issue. ...Which is ironic, given that Obama was very much in line with our concerns during his candidacy.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
23. "Revalations that heve emerged in the past few months from whistleblower Edward Snowden an others...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:13 PM
Oct 2013
...painted a disturbing picture of widespread suspicionless surveillance of American citizens." This is the first sentence in the video (spoken by Daniel Ellsberg and Phil Donahue).



[font size="4" color="darkred"]Thank you Edward for your loyalty to America and her Constitution.[/font]

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
27. Amazing how the surveillance apologists are agreeing with the video.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:15 PM
Oct 2013

I take their silence as approval.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
31. It's because the only president featured it in is a repuke who died 20 years ago.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013

As I've said before, if the "surveillance apologists" find a way remove President Obama from the discussion, many will be fine to condemn the NSA.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
33. Good point. However, we must all face up to the reality that Qbama has really dropped the ball here
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:43 PM
Oct 2013
Candidate Obama:

"I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom. That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient," Obama said in 2007, adding that "the FISA court works."

...from PolitiFact.com - Barack Obama on surveillance, then and now


Unfortunately, there's no avoiding the fact that Obama has caved to spook central and turned his back on the clear promises he made to (unlike his predecesor) uphold our Constitutionally guaranteed rights -- promises that helped usher him into office.

...A sadly ironic legacy for any president, let alone a Constitutional Scholar.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
26. I doubt anyone who was elected to govern knows everything done by
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 04:36 PM
Oct 2013

the various security agencies.

As with many technical areas, those outside the field may have a gut feeling that something is wrong, but get overwhelmed by experts from within the field. How does a Congressman, Senator or President tell the spooks "no" when so many opponents will jump on that "no" as evidence of treason and/or naivete? How many would trust their gut in the face of experts stating that this is vital information?

When everyone is being watched because everyone is equally suspect, no one is being watched.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
29. Presidents come & go...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:18 PM
Oct 2013

...but government agencies have a life all their own. The question is whether or not a president has the power to reign in these entities, assuming he/she has the will to do so. I believe the answer is no.

The last president who actually acted as president & tried to exercise control over spook central was JFK. ...And we all saw the example that was made of him.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. They're just racists who didn't get their ponies
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:12 PM
Oct 2013

Wait a minute - they're all lifelong outspoken liberal Dems. Must be some mistake.

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