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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 08:32 PM Oct 2013

Prof suspended over tweet won't return in 2013

Source: AP

LAWRENCE, Kan. (AP) — The chancellor of the University of Kansas announced Thursday that a journalism professor suspended over a tweet that angrily targeted the National Rifle Association after the Navy Yard shootings will not return to his classroom in 2013.

Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little issued a press release stating that David Guth, who was placed on administrative leave Sept. 20, would not teach the rest of this semester but would be assigned to other duties. It also said he would take a planned sabbatical in the spring. Teaching assignments for the fall of 2014 are not yet set.

Guth posted the tweet after the September shootings killed 13 people in Washington, D.C. It said, "The blood is on the hands of the #NRA. Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters. Shame on you. May God damn you."

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/prof-suspended-over-tweet-wont-return-2013



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Kansas City Star, KU prof who tweeted controversially back at work, but not classroom, which reports:

State Sen. Greg Smith of Overland Park was one of the first to call for Guth’s firing. He was not satisfied with the university’s response.

“All they’re doing is stalling, hoping that it will die down and everybody will forget about it,” said Smith, a Republican. “He was way out of line, way outside anything that’s covered by tenure, due process or anything else. As far as I’m concerned, it was hate speech.”

Smith said if Guth had commented on any other group of people he would have been fired. Guth’s continued employment, Smith said, will cause the lawmaker to look much harder at any request KU puts to the Legislature.

Guth has said his tweet was intended to launch conversation. He also has described himself as the victim of a campaign by gun-rights advocates who he thinks have unfairly vilified him.


Michigan State also had a similar response to English professor William Penn after he was recorded on video criticizing the Republican Party during a class. You can thank David Horowitz, Campus Reform, The College Fix, and the "COLLEGE PROFESSORS ARE COMMIES" crowd.

And Senator Smith, ever heard of the First Amendment? And explain how Occidental Observer editor Kevin B. MacDonald is still employed as a psychology professor at Cal State Long Beach...and I am among millions of California taxpayers subsidizing a guy "known for his use of evolutionary theory to support his claim that Judaism is a 'group evolutionary strategy.'" Look him up in the SPLC and ADL.
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ReRe

(10,597 posts)
2. Bernadette don't have no use for that First Amendment, don't 'cha know.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 08:50 PM
Oct 2013

It's instances like this that have us all up tight about speaking our peace in the marketplace of ideas, the good ole USA! USA! USA! We're all turning into a bunch of little self-censors.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
4. WE need to be the ones shouting USA! USA!
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:58 PM
Oct 2013

And waving flags, for we represent true America and the ideals upon which it was founded.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
3. Anyone know how to organize a huge backlash?
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:57 PM
Oct 2013

Pit the obvious political hate speech that comes out of repigs every day against those who speak out against obvious dangers, like the NRA. Let's see who's really hateful.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
5. The NRA probably informed on him.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:13 PM
Oct 2013

...Hey, I think you've got something there. They are all armed, aren't they?

petronius

(26,602 posts)
6. He should never have been removed or suspended in the first place; other
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:15 PM
Oct 2013

articles I've seen have him saying that he agreed his presence was possibly disruptive, but the departure should have been entirely his own choice. He had every right to express his opinions, on his private time, through a medium that was not even job related.

Greg Smith, on the other hand, is clearly unfit to be a member of the Legislature, and should be removed as soon as it is electorally possible to do so...

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
13. Perhaps petition the school to reinstate him.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:01 AM
Oct 2013

It is free speech, its not offending anyone, nor is it threatening to anyone.


"To be persuasive, we must be believable; to be believable, we must be credible; to be credible, we must be truthful."
-Edward R. Murrow

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
8. what he said was in poor taste
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:52 PM
Oct 2013

I am conflicted on whether the school should take action against him. I'm a strong supporter of the 1st amendment and Professor Guth had every right to say what he says, but as a member of the faculty he also represents the school. It's within reason that such comments could draw backlash from university administrators

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
11. It's a state university which makes administrators government agents.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:07 AM
Oct 2013

The 1st Am. grants absolute protection from state retaliation for speech.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
9. Are you fuking kidding me?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:01 AM
Oct 2013

That prof should get a medal.

Where the hell was his union when this was going on?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. Don't forget those Florida Atlantic
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:27 PM
Oct 2013

standing by their professor who was howling to the media that the Sandy Hook massacre was nothing but a Hollywood-style special effects hoax staged by Obama...He even planned to make a trip up to Connecticut to "prove" those kids never existed...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022162863

(Full disclosure: I'm a KU grad, and while I never took his classes, I know of Guth...)

tblue37

(65,358 posts)
15. I teach at KU. I also took all of my degrees here.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:13 PM
Oct 2013

This situation is upsetting. The legislature in Kansas is extremely conservative, and KU's funding is getting sqeezed all the time (as is funding for all other state schools, too, of course). Our chancellor is not the enemy. She is between a rock and a hard place.

I hope that once things quiet down Guth will be back teaching. With some luck the attention of the Eye o f Mordor will be directed elsewhere by next term. Public universities are under seige in red states, and no one wants to draw unnecessary attention. The idea for most academic communities in times like this is to maintain a low profile, to work quietly to effect change, without attracting too much virulent hatred from those who have the power to undermine the academic mission.

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