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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:26 PM Oct 2013

Detroit's abandoned Packard Plant sold for more than $6 million in county auction

Source: Mlive.com

If someone was waiting for the second round of the Wayne County tax foreclosure auction to snap up the Packard Plant at a firesale price, it proved to be a poor strategy. And an expensive one.

The winning bid in the auction for the 3.5-million-square-foot symbol of urban blight was $6,038,000, about six times the amount of back taxes owed on the property.

Wayne County Deputy Treasurer Dave Szymanski identified the winning bidder as Jill Van Horn from Ennis, Texas. It received a total of 117 bids,

The property failed to draw any bids in the first round of the auction in September, when the starting bid was almost $1 million, or the back taxes owed to the county. In the current, second round of the auction, the minimum bid per parcel was just $500, which put the minimum bid for the Packard Plant at $21,000 when it first hit the auction block. . .

Read more: http://www.mlive.com/business/detroit/index.ssf/2013/10/detroits_abandoned_packard_pla.html



Holy scrap metal, Batman. Never expected it to bring this. Hopefully some good use will be made of a prime historical property. Mom worked at Packard's in WWII as a "Rosie the Riveter" type - they manufactured airplanes then.

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notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
1. That's near Grand Blvd, right?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:31 PM
Oct 2013

I used to work in the Argo building right behind the GM building during the 90's. I loved working there

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
2. That's a lot of square footage for the price, I guess.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:32 PM
Oct 2013

Structurally, the buildings could be OK, and I guess the vandals have removed a lot of the asbestos or other harmful materials over the years while tearing the place up, so remediation costs will be lower.

I hope something interesting is done with the plant, it's very historic, especially to classic car enthusiasts.

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
5. Did they make airplanes there?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:27 PM
Oct 2013

I just thought the company made licensed versions of the Rolls Royce Merlins in Detroit, commonly referred to as the Packard Merlins.

I live near Warren OH, historical home of the WD Packard family and where the first Packard automobiles were built. As a coincidence, I was at the National Packard Museum here just this afternoon and saw a prime example of the Merlin engine on a test stand, as proudly restored by Jack Rousch Racing.

The Merlin engine was the power behind war winning hardware like the Spitfire, Hurricane, and Mosquito. When the Mustang was introduced, it was initially powered by an Allison V12 and suffered performance at altitude. When the Brits hung the Rolls Royce engine on the nose, the P-51 became the hands down best fighter plane of WWII. Since the island underwent continuous bombing, production was added in Detroit by Packard.

While I pretty certain this plant was where those powerplants were made, I wonder if Packard was building airplanes there as well. Since there was no "Packard" airplane, they might have manufactured aircraft under license by another company. That was very common in those days. Packard may have only constructed wing assemblies for bombers there.

I worked for Packard Electric here for 30 years until retirement (later Delphi), so I'm somewhat interested in the history of the company. I believe your mom worked there, but did she say she specifically built airplanes? I'm just not sure what else they built there. I'm not calling you out on facts or anything, I sincerely would like to know more.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
7. Yep. Mom was the first woman to win the War Production Board Award while at Packard. Here she is.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:08 PM
Oct 2013

Came up with a simple way to coat airplane wings. We have all the publicity; it was a big deal, although well before I was born. A certain First Lady flew in to congratulate her. You may recognize her, and this is in the Packard plant.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. I think the RR Packard Merlin was also used in the PT boats.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:13 PM
Oct 2013

correction - they used a V-12 Packard, but not a RR Merlin except one of the prototypes. The Packard engine was a marine version of a WW1 bomber engine Packard made.

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
10. They had a couple PT engines at the museum
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:59 PM
Oct 2013

They were pretty massive with their huge water jackets, but were still dwarfed by the mechanically complex Merlin. Each boat used three and a very large fuel tank (I would imagine).

I didn't know Packard built airplanes for someone, but since I don't doubt the OP, I have to do some research. I want to know more about this.

On edit:
I did see a notation where the son of JW Packard was an aviation buff and wanted to get the company into their own private plane design, but the idea died when he did in an airplane crash.

Edit again:
I didn't know that marine engine was a Liberty. I'm familiar with that engine, it was the US only major contribution to the air war in Europe. We didn't produce any airplanes for WWII, only those Liberty engines were shipped over by the shipload. After the war I knew they were used in a lot of racing boats, but I never put 2 & 2 together that they were used in PT boats as well.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
6. And someone from Texas bought it, no less. It seems Governor Perry's claim that
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:54 PM
Oct 2013

everyone wants to move their plants to Texas is looking a little weak right now.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
12. My Mom worked there too! As a matter of fact I might not be here if not for that plant....
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:55 PM
Oct 2013

My Dad came to the Packard plant to fix Mom's teletype machine. She says she 'looked up into those blue eyes' and...the rest is history I guess.

That place has a special place in my heart, as does the entire Good Olde East Side.

I'm glad The D will get an influx of money. Now if we can get rid of these asshole disaster capitalists trying to steal the silverware, we might eventually be ok. That is if we bring back the jobs...I know slavery is good for profits but it ain't good for America and it sure hasn't been good for my home town. Go Lions.

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
13. My grandfather worked there. He had woodworking experience and somehow ended up at Packard.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:22 AM
Oct 2013

While on the job, he lost three fingers in an accident. Bought his house with what they paid him for the loss of
those fingers. Only met the guy once in my life. According to my Mom, that was enough. LOL.

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