NSA: New reports in German media deepen US-Merkel spy row
Source: BBC News
Fresh reports in German media based on leaked US intelligence documents are prompting damaging new questions about the extent of US surveillance.
Der Spiegel suggests the US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002.
Another report says Mr Obama was told in 2010 about the surveillance and failed to stop it.
The spy row has led to the worst diplomatic crisis betweeen the two countries in living memory.
Leaked documents say a US listening unit was based in its Berlin embassy - and similar operations were replicated in 80 locations around the world.
The German interior minister has been quoted as saying such an operation, if confirmed, would be illegal.
On Friday, Germany and France said they wanted the US to sign a no-spy deal by the end of the year.
As well as the bugging of Mrs Merkel's phone, there are claims the NSA has monitored millions of telephone calls made by German and French citizens.
'Obama's green light'
Der Spiegel claims to have seen secret documents from the National Security Agency which show Mrs Merkel's number on a list dating from 2002 - three years before she became chancellor.
This might indicate that there was extensive bugging of the phones of prominent people, says the BBC's Stephen Evans in Berlin.
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24692908
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)I do understand that it won't happen due to economic implications, but we need to get our tax dollars helping US citizens.
Mr.Bill
(24,305 posts)is an idiot. Even drug dealers know better than this.
Not saying it was right if we spied on her, though.
why paranoid people insist on using wireless devices is beyond me. I use a cat5e. dislike wireless devices but there is no cat5e plug on it. hence pedo's spying on baby cams that are wireless
Someone in your own family relations is the far more likely (by many factors) if sexual abuse were to occur. Stranger abuse is actually a relatively uncommon factor (but yes, the media sure does like to stoke the fear of your neighbors instead).
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Wireless is OK if that is really all you can get, but otherwise, "I'd prefer not to."
newthinking
(3,982 posts)I spoke to it in another thread. I think that it hurts us in that as long as everyone accepts this as "just the way it is" it is difficult to do the work we need to do to determine appropriate limits to the technologies invasive nature.
Please read my other post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023930882#post18
bemildred
(90,061 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Yet the average law abiding Amer. is now surprised by the revelations.
Telling, isn't it?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Really?
newthinking
(3,982 posts)You wouldn't know how serious it is by watching and reading the US press. For some reason it is not being really covered. But it is all over the world press and apparently it is pretty serious.
soundsgreat
(125 posts)The Germans are pissed. Really.
Many calls to install a parliamentary commission on the NSA and to summon Sowden as a witness. Chances that he will come are certainly bigger than for Alexander.