Ohio says it will switch to new drugs for executions
Source: Reuters
Ohio says it will switch to new drugs for executions
Source: Reuters - Mon, 28 Oct 2013 06:06 PM
Author: Reuters
By Kim Palmer
CLEVELAND, Oct 28 (Reuters) - Ohio said on Monday that it does not have enough of the drug pentobarbital to carry out a scheduled execution next month, the latest U.S. state to face a scarcity after the European manufacturer banned its sale for lethal injections of prisoners sentenced to death.
Ohio is one of a number of U.S. states which have been forced to look to new suppliers such as lightly regulated "compounding pharmacies," or turn to new drugs for executions because major pharmaceutical companies are opposed to use of their drugs in carrying out the death penalty.
On Oct. 10, Ohio published a new execution guideline which allowed the state to seek pentobarbital from a compounding pharmacy, a type of supplier that is not closely regulated by the Food and Drug Administration.
The Danish manufacturer of pentobarbital, Lundbeck LLC , has banned its sale to prisons or corrections departments for the death penalty. The European Union, of which Denmark is a member, is opposed to the death penalty and has put pressure on U.S. states to stop the practice.
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Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Then we can join the rest of the civilized world.
alfredo
(60,075 posts)Buddha_of_Wisdom
(373 posts)That's the 'Murkan way!
alfredo
(60,075 posts)Evelyn Gordon
(29 posts)Seems as humane as any other method, and moreso than most.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Put them in an airtight room and fill it with pure nitrogen. Air is already 78 percent nitrogen, so apparently the body doesn't show any distress but the guest of honor croaks from oxygen deprivation...no one's actually tried it on a human, but they've euthanized test animals this way and it seems to work well.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Evelyn Gordon
(29 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)His method is close to yours -- nitrogen narcosis. It's a bit safer to use, given that room air is 80% nitrogen already... I imagine airing out the chamber to inspect the body is more easily accomplished. In a way, it's more "airing-in" the chamber, if you will.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)George Junius Stinney Jr. (October 21, 1929 June 16, 1944) was, at age 14, the youngest person executed in the United States in the 20th century.
Stinney was convicted of murdering two pre-teen girls after police said he confessed to the murders.
The execution of George Stinney was carried out at the South Carolina State Penitentiary in Columbia, on June 16, 1944. At 7:30 p.m., Stinney walked to the execution chamber with a Bible under his arm, which he later used as a booster seat in the electric chair. Standing 5 foot 2 inches (157 cm) tall and weighing just over 90 pounds (40 kg),[4] his size (in relative to the fully grown prisoners) presented difficulties in securing him to the frame holding the electrodes. Nor did the state's adult-sized face-mask fit him; as he was hit with the first 2,400 V surge of electricity, the mask covering his face slipped off, revealing his wide-open, tearful eyes and saliva coming from his mouth...After two more jolts of electricity, the boy was dead." Stinney was declared dead within four minutes of the initial electrocution. From the time of the murders until Stinney's execution, eighty-one days had passed.
Kennah
(14,299 posts)"On October 25, 2013, Steve McKenzie, Ray Chandler and Matt Burgess of Coffey, Chandler & McKenzie, P.A. filed a Motion for New Trial Pursuant to South Carolina Rule of Criminal Procedure 29(b)."
http://cckmlaw.com/
http://www.facebook.com/CoffeyChandlerKentMcKenziePa?ref=hl
https://twitter.com/CCKMLaw
warrant46
(2,205 posts)This case was in fact a Judicial Lynching
maindawg
(1,151 posts)We are gearing up for a governor election. There are several scandals involving shady political pacs and an agency called 'jobs Ohio' that is a quasi public /private arm of the state government. They refuse to open their book for the republican state auditor.No one even knows what they do meanwhile no jobs are being created in Ohio.
Kasic is the guy from Leeman Bros who cost us like 400 million dollars out of our state employees fund I believe.He won by a very slim margine.He is going to steal the turnpike and the lottery as well as decertify the state employee unions if he is re-elected.
He has defunded our schools to the tune of about 500 million dollars that for some nefarious reason he has stashed in our rainy day fund.
If this criminal from Pittsburg gets re-elected get ready for one hell of a rainy day.
Pmc1962
(43 posts)A massive dose of opioids, with a benzodiazepine chaser.
Such as: morphine 100 mg followed by valium 30 mg. Repeat as needed until breathing slows and stops.
Or use a continuous drip, uptitrating the dose to get the desired effect.
The problem wouldn't be obtaining the drugs. The problem is the vindictive jerks who want to pursue the death penalty don't want the prisoner's last sensation to be euphoria.
Give them drugs that could kill them but might make them feel peaceful? No way!
(Could use propofol, too. All sorts of anesthetics are available.)
There is no challenge to come up with a drug cocktail which could kill someone. It's coming up with one that doesn't feel good.
On edit: i finished the original article and they are going to use opioids and benzo's ( dilaudid and versed.).
"She said the state will turn to the drugs midazolam and hydromorphone, which are not commonly used in lethal injections, for the Phillips execution."
groundloop
(11,521 posts)First off, there have been far too many death penalty convictions overturned after DNA evidence proved innocence. If someone is serving life in prison, then at least if further evidence is turned up to prove them innocent they can have the rest of their life back.
Pmc1962
(43 posts)But, for those who are dedicated to the death penalty, it's not really a problem to obtain a lethal cocktail. They don't say "we can't find a lethal cocktail that feels bad", but that's what they really want.
Definitely get rid of the death penalty.
If only one innocent person is executed (murdered) then that should be reason enough to do away with "capital punishment."
sir pball
(4,756 posts)Just load up 750-1000mg of diacetylmorphine (fancy medical heroin) and boom, Bob's your uncle. I swear, I think some of these rabily pro-DP'ers actively want it to be horrific, they'd use Saddam's plastic shredders if they could.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)We used to use the most humane DP protocol in this country: the firing squad.
You didn't have to worry about hitting a vein.
You didn't have to worry about dealing with a heroin addict's veins.
You definitely didn't need to worry about the ethical concerns of medical people killing prisoners.
Getting the necessary "agents" is no problem.
And every cop in the world is trained to kill with a gun.
The lethal injection is for the benefit of the guest of honor's family, when they come to witness the execution.
Remember, the French kept guillotining as their execution method for a reason: the government wanted to abolish, but couldn't gain popular support...so they added a commnt about the effects of the guillotine to jury instructions, and no death sentence was handed down for 20 years. Firing squads plus a requirement that jury members witness executions could do the same here.
sir pball
(4,756 posts)Rifle to the head at 10 yards. Humane, indeed.
I don't think the witnessing/instructions would be as effective here though, our nature is a little different.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The company that makes it is in Germany, and they will severely restrict exporting it to the US if we execute anyone with it. Jay Nixon in Missouri has halted the first propofol execution.
tonybgood
(218 posts)First off, I want to say that I'm against the death penalty.
That being said, every time I see a story where they say that they don't have drugs to use for lethal injection I wonder the same thing: why don't they just give whoever it is a lethal dose of heroin. They must have plenty of it confiscated off the street in drug busts. Since ODing from heroin seems to be common, it must be lethal. Is there a moral objection to using it? Do they think that using heroin for lethal injection might provide the person with a moment of pleasure before they die? If killing someone is the point, it seems that heroin would certainly be cheap and effective. I don't understand it but then again, I don't understand giving the state the power to take life in the first place.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I say we start with Rick Perry.
joshdawg
(2,651 posts)should be thrown into solitary for the rest of his miserable existence. Along with bush, cheney, rumsfailed, etc. ad nauseum.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)can't trust them or something along those lines?
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Unless you run an anesthesiology service...for some reason all the good anesthetics come from Germany. Chloroform and ether are made here, but no one wants to go back to those days.
Kennah
(14,299 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)But starvation takes too long.
Kennah
(14,299 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,151 posts)Amen.
moriah
(8,311 posts)... but I just hope they give a lot of both. Neither opiates or benzos are known to be very reliable for suicide, despite how many they take who didn't intend to go.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)That room was looking positively gloomy.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)What a completely bizarre conversation.
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)It's cheaper, and more in line with the whole "justice" thing.