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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts) Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:41 PM Nov 2013

Warming report sees violent, sicker, poorer future

Source: Associated Press

Nov 2, 4:23 PM EDT

Warming report sees violent, sicker, poorer future

By SETH BORENSTEIN
AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A leaked draft of an international scientific report forecasts that man-made global warming likely will worsen already existing human tragedies of war, starvation, poverty, flooding, extreme weather and disease.

The Nobel Peace Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change will issue a report next March on how global warming is already affecting the way people live and what will happen in the future, including a worldwide drop in income. A leaked copy of a draft of the report's summary appeared online Friday. Governments will spend the next few months making comments about the draft.

The report details specific effects of warming and how countries and people can adapt to some of them. The American scientist who heads the report, Chris Field, says experts paint a dramatic contrast of possible futures.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_CLIMATE_IMPACTS?SECTION=HOME&SITE=AP&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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Warming report sees violent, sicker, poorer future (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2013 OP

doesn't surprise me in the least. hollysmom Nov 2013 #1

This is what homeland security is really about pscot Nov 2013 #2

Homeland security should be teaching people how to create gardens at home, jtuck004 Nov 2013 #3

Organic Server farms pscot Nov 2013 #4

Not a terrible idea LOL jtuck004 Nov 2013 #5

If only we had a community organizer pscot Nov 2013 #9

I know. Well, we can only hope. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #10

Green, Socialism, Bortman33 Nov 2013 #6

Don't know if socialism is the structure that would be the most helpful. Even the Industrial Unions jtuck004 Nov 2013 #8

you know what that sounds like? Skittles Nov 2013 #11

I would have to go Bortman33 Nov 2013 #15

Einstein should have been a politician, I guess Socialistlemur Nov 2013 #17

And if these words do not lead the revolution the future will most certainly be a fascist world with jwirr Nov 2013 #13

Perfect for the Republican agenda. nt longship Nov 2013 #7

And they'll try and profit from it. sakabatou Nov 2013 #14

and yet the repukes deny climate change gopiscrap Nov 2013 #12

It's falling apart. We've slow cooked it pretty good. jsr Nov 2013 #16

Yes, a headline that's been out there since, what, 1988? hatrack Nov 2013 #18

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)

1. doesn't surprise me in the least.

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:44 PM

Nov 2013

Even without global warming, I see more hatred in people every day.

And I consider myself an optimist.

pscot

(21,024 posts)

2. This is what homeland security is really about

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:57 PM

Nov 2013

They're getting ready for a climate meltdown. If the tropics get too hot we could see 200 million climate refugees clamoring for succor. That report also says the tipping point is very near.

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

3. Homeland security should be teaching people how to create gardens at home,

Reply to pscot (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:07 PM

Nov 2013

encouraging thrift, properly storing food, finding ways to help each other. That would be real homeland security.

I have a feeling that's not their focus.

pscot

(21,024 posts)

4. Organic Server farms

Reply to jtuck004 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:15 PM

Nov 2013

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

5. Not a terrible idea LOL

Reply to pscot (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:19 PM

Nov 2013

Big shipping container, a bunch of 2U's in a rack running hundreds of virtual servers connect to the world, powered by several methods, buried fiber to all the houses in your community, (can tell Comcast and all the others to get bent) everyone gets tutorials on anything they wish 24x7, big potluck on Saturdays at the Grange...

hmmm

pscot

(21,024 posts)

9. If only we had a community organizer

Reply to jtuck004 (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:43 PM

Nov 2013

at the helm.

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

10. I know. Well, we can only hope. n/t

Reply to pscot (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:44 PM

Nov 2013

Bortman33

(102 posts)

6. Green, Socialism,

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:23 PM

Nov 2013

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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

8. Don't know if socialism is the structure that would be the most helpful. Even the Industrial Unions

Reply to Bortman33 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:39 PM

Nov 2013

rejected that, back in the pre-New Deal Days, wanted the workers to control the decisions and investments. Something more along the lines of a cooperative, maybe like Mondragon, but with care not to become so attached to the structure outside that you risk what you have - still, anything better than supporting the wealthy and pretending it's capitalism run in a democracy, eh?

Skittles

(153,169 posts)

11. you know what that sounds like?

Reply to Bortman33 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:36 PM

Nov 2013

a rightwing version of what constitutes liberalism

Bortman33

(102 posts)

15. I would have to go

Reply to Skittles (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:30 PM

Nov 2013

with Einstein on Socialism and who the hell listens to the right wing anyway, unless of course, you want to decipher which path not to follow.

From Wikipedia

"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate (the) grave evils (of capitalism), namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society."

Albert Einstein, Why Socialism?, 1949 [41]

Socialistlemur

(770 posts)

17. Einstein should have been a politician, I guess

Reply to Bortman33 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:23 AM

Nov 2013

Maybe he could have made it work better than the Soviets, the Chinese, or the Cubans did. I like socialism, but I also see quite a bit of naive thinking regarding how to implement it or how to avoid more failures.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)

13. And if these words do not lead the revolution the future will most certainly be a fascist world with

Reply to Bortman33 (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:17 AM

Nov 2013

the 1% ruling while we starve etc. Capitalism does not work in an era of scarcity. We can see that in the nations we used to call third world. They only appear to work because they are our labor force. If and when we no longer buy the products they make the will look like our ghost towns with one exception - they will still be populated.