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Judi Lynn

(160,631 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 05:01 PM Nov 2013

US supreme court hears arguments over prayer in government meetings

Source: Associated Press

US supreme court hears arguments over prayer in government meetings

Justices to decide in Greece v Galloway whether New York town violated religion clause of the first amendment

Associated Press in Washington
theguardian.com, Wednesday 6 November 2013 14.07 EST

The supreme court is wrestling with the appropriate role for religion in government in a case involving prayers at the start of a New York town's council meetings.

The justices engaged in a lively give and take Wednesday that highlighted the sensitive nature of religious invocations at public proceedings, and of governments' efforts to police the practice.

The court is weighing a federal appeals court ruling that said the Rochester suburb of Greece, New York, violated the constitution because nearly every prayer in an 11-year span was overtly Christian.

The tenor of the argument indicated the justices would not agree with the appellate ruling. But it was not clear what decision they might come to instead.



Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/nov/06/supreme-court-prayer-religion-in-government

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US supreme court hears arguments over prayer in government meetings (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2013 OP
An institution which opens with a prayer... former9thward Nov 2013 #1
Why can't people just pray right before they attend the meeting? nt ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #2
Because then they can't rub it in everyone's face... gcomeau Nov 2013 #3
Which goes against Matthew 6 - 5 & 6 OnlinePoker Nov 2013 #5
Some keep the Sabbath going to Church BadgerKid Nov 2013 #6
I live near Greece, NY. pangaia Nov 2013 #4
What is so wrong with keeping Diego_Native 2012 Nov 2013 #7

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
1. An institution which opens with a prayer...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 05:10 PM
Nov 2013

Deciding if opening with prayers is constitutional. I would say it will be 9-0.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
3. Because then they can't rub it in everyone's face...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 05:29 PM
Nov 2013

...that the prayer is happening and is sooooooo important that it needs to happen before this other important business is decided.

OnlinePoker

(5,727 posts)
5. Which goes against Matthew 6 - 5 & 6
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. I live near Greece, NY.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 05:31 PM
Nov 2013

It is a suburb of Rochester..
I don't believe any public event that is tied in any way with government should have any prayer before, during or after.

Real 'prayer' is an act of practicing consciousness.
Praying, for example, before eating food was once intended to move one toward a state of 'self-awareness,' or 'consciousness', and to try to keep that state during the act of eating.

Nowadays it has just become-- "we thank 'you' for this food we are about to eat, Amen."
DIG IN!!! in total sleep.

Even 'Amen' has no more meaning.

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