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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:17 AM Nov 2013

F.D.A. Moves to Ban Trans Fats, Citing Health Concerns

Source: New York Times

By SABRINA TAVERNISE
Published: November 7, 2013

The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday proposed measures that would all but eliminate artificial trans fats, the artery clogging substance that is a major contributor to heart disease in the United States, from the food supply.

Under the proposal, which is open for public comment for 60 days, the agency would declare that partially hydrogenated oils, the source of trans fats, were no longer “generally recognized as safe,” a legal category that permits the use of salt and caffeine, for example.

That means companies would have to prove scientifically that partially hydrogenated oils are safe to eat, a very high hurdle given that scientific literature overwhelmingly shows the contrary. The Institute of Medicine has concluded that there is no safe level for consumption of artificial trans fats.

“That will make it a challenge, to be honest,” said Michael R. Taylor, deputy commissioner for foods at the F.D.A.

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/08/health/fda-trans-fats.html

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F.D.A. Moves to Ban Trans Fats, Citing Health Concerns (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2013 OP
Unfortunately, the major replacement for trans fats is palm oil - which is an environment destroyer. ehrnst Nov 2013 #1
Actually, palm oil doesn't have to be chervilant Nov 2013 #4
Great news! I doubrt this proposal will survive the push-back, hedgehog Nov 2013 #2
Long, long overdue! AndyA Nov 2013 #3
Does that mean 90% of fast food places are going to close down? Myrina Nov 2013 #5
Nice. Now, let's talk about HFCS. n/t bitchkitty Nov 2013 #6
Historical perspective. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #7
I think my mother got caught up in the lack of information regarding trans fats. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #8
How is the RW media going to lie about this one? Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #9
Butter or olive oil? HockeyMom Nov 2013 #10
Is olive oil bad for you? Mz Pip Nov 2013 #11
Wonderful stuff. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #13
Animal fats are overwhelmingly the worst fats. Olive oil is great! nt onehandle Nov 2013 #20
Since I am a vegetarian I never use animal fats RebelOne Nov 2013 #24
Trans fats are worse for you than animal fats. Quantess Nov 2013 #25
Well, that goes without saying, considering the OP. nt onehandle Nov 2013 #27
I prefer hemp oil over olive RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #21
Olive oil and Avocados have good fats. nt bananas Nov 2013 #30
LA Times article, homepage today, link categorized as business/money/. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #12
Good. n/t DirkGently Nov 2013 #14
I'm guessing Monsanto has a toxic replacement lined up... nt docgee Nov 2013 #15
As a matterof fact... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #17
and I was only being sarcastic... fuck docgee Nov 2013 #39
I don't want to lose my Coffeemate MissMillie Nov 2013 #16
Here are some products that may have hidden trans fat: dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #18
Flavored coffee creamers can contain truedelphi Nov 2013 #26
"The Institute of Medicine has concluded that there is no safe level for consumption" bananas Nov 2013 #31
Good. nt onehandle Nov 2013 #19
Does this mean that the obnoxious among us RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #22
One can only hope... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #28
It's the creeping crud... TommyCelt Nov 2013 #23
Newspaper title is misleading - (surprise!) - artificial trans fats ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #29
No thinking person in the USA should trust headlines - truedelphi Nov 2013 #37
Screw that oberliner Nov 2013 #32
Such as many people believed they wanted prior to Upton Sinclair's writings... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #34
And amazingly we still have factory farms oberliner Nov 2013 #36
Been noticing more products w/o TFAs in recent years. BadgerKid Nov 2013 #33
I think this is great news... sendero Nov 2013 #35
I don't believe anything FDA says. aikanae Nov 2013 #38

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
4. Actually, palm oil doesn't have to be
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:34 AM
Nov 2013

"the major replacement for trans fats," nor should it be. This assertion can be construed as a red herring, since most of us who are opposed to hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils are optimistic about the FDA finally responding to overwhelming evidence of the danger of these oils. I won't touch anything that contains these oils, and I rarely consume products that contain palm oil.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
3. Long, long overdue!
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:29 AM
Nov 2013

To hell with the industry--if they weren't putting crap in their food that kills people, they wouldn't need regulations. But they do. I hope this passes, we don't buy anything that has trans fat in it.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
7. Historical perspective.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:55 AM
Nov 2013
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/08/kids-cholestorol-trans-fat

Food Industry Ditches Trans Fats, Kids' Cholesterol Levels Drop

By Tom Philpott
Tue Aug. 21, 2012 3:00 AM PDT


"0 grams trans fats." That promise appears prominently on packaging for that classic American junk food, the Lay's Potato Chip. McDonald's iconic French fries? Trans-fat free—as are its Chicken McNuggets.

It wasn't always thus. As recently as 2006, journalist Nina Teicholz could report that consuming a large order of McDonald's fries and McNuggets in one sitting meant taking in nearly 10 grams of trans fats, a "substance considered so unhealthy that the National Academy of Sciences concluded, in 2002, that the only safe amount of trans fats in the diet is zero."

Trans fats are made through a process known as partial hydrogenation—basically, when you add hydrogen to ordinary vegetable oil, it becomes solid at room temperature, making it a cheap substitute for butter.

According to Teicholz, probably the journalist most responsible for exposing the ill effects of the once-ubiquitous, now-scarce substance, "A daily intake of five grams of trans fats increases the risk of contracting heart disease 4 percent to 28 percent."

<>

Teicholz reported trans-fat production was dominated by agribusiness giants Cargill, Archer Daniels Midland, and Bunge. These companies ran a trade group called the Institute of Shortening and Edible Oils (ISEO), which "for decades" worked "behind the scenes to squelch bad news about trans fats." Teicholz reported:

As far back as 1968, the ISEO was mentioned in an internal memo written by the medical director of the American Heart Association: According to the memo, the ISEO objected to the AHA’s intention to include a warning about trans fats in its dietary guidelines; subsequently, the AHA took it out.

And the food industry, too, actively sought to repress research showing trans fats' ill effects. According to Teicholz, independent-minded scientists examining the topic had to "deal with the tidal wave of industry pressure unleashed against them at meetings, conferences, and events. Their papers were rebutted with unusual ferocity, and their research funding was scarce." The pressures came from the industry's highest levels:

Dr. Thomas Applewhite and Dr. J. Edward Hunter, industry scientists employed, respectively, by Kraft and Procter & Gamble (which held the original U.S. patent for trans fats), were the principal forces behind this criticism. Given that they worked for two food giants, the potential for bias was apparent, but their ability to fund research (as well as their own encyclopedic knowledge of the field) meant they could exercise considerable influence.

With independent science about its health effects virtually nil, trans fats took on a healthy sheen, promoted by a food industry that was happy to have found a cheap replacement for butter that also worked well in deep frying. By the '70s, "margarine manufacturers used the slogan 'Healthy for Your Heart' and marketed the product like a drug to doctors," Teicholz reported. 

Meanwhile, damage to public health was severe. Teicholz cited Harvard epidemiologist Walter Willett, who reckoned that "of the half million Americans who die prematurely each year from heart disease—the leading cause of death in this country—at least 30,000 are killed by trans fats."

The breaking point came in 2002, when a panel convened by the National Academy of Sciences produced a scathing report on the effect of trans fats. Spurred by the NAS document, the FDA had little choice but to move on labeling, which it began to require in 2006. Then came bans on using trans fats in restaurants in New York City, Philadelphia, and California. The drop in trans fat consumption was swift—a recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found that trans-fat levels in the blood of white adults plunged by 58 percent between 2000 to 2009. (The fats the industry has seized upon to replace trans fats, palm oil and interesterificated vegetable oil, may present their own problems, both to health and the environment, but that is a topic for another post.)

Although a long time in coming, the melting away of trans fats in the American diet shows that progress can be made—that when independent science can cut through industry-induced fog, and when regulators are compelled to do their job—the American diet can improve. But as the Journal of the American Medical Association article shows, things are still dire. Kids' cholesterol levels are coming down, the article notes, but obesity and overweight levels remain stubbornly high.

That unhappy fact, I think, stems from another practice the food industry picked up in the late '70s—adding massive amounts of empty sweeteners to processed food. As the journalist Gary Taubes has shown, the food industry has largely managed to bury a growing body of research on the harms of that habit.

Recommended comment: birdmechanical @ 09:41 AM yesterday.

From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=205713

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
8. I think my mother got caught up in the lack of information regarding trans fats.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:19 PM
Nov 2013

She died on Christmas Eve, 2004. A woman who had done everything in her life to remain healthy, but didn't have the information she needed to make the right choices regarding trans fats.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
9. How is the RW media going to lie about this one?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:26 PM
Nov 2013

"Trans fat comes from vegetable oil...so it's essentially vegetable"

"Michelle Obama is trying to ban food with any fat"

"Next they will force us to eat broccoli"

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
10. Butter or olive oil?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:34 PM
Nov 2013

I cook with both of those because they taste better. Tell somebody of Italian heritage to not use olive oil? lol I cook myself from scratch rather than eat out, and don't like junk food. Just my individual tastes and not really because of health reasons.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
11. Is olive oil bad for you?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:40 PM
Nov 2013

I hope not. I use it all the time.

My doctor said that I need to avoid animal fats; that they are the worst culprit. I have high cholesterol; it's genetic. I though olive oil was a good fat.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
24. Since I am a vegetarian I never use animal fats
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:16 PM
Nov 2013

and only use olive oil. I love it. And also I do not fry anything.

RandiFan1290

(6,237 posts)
21. I prefer hemp oil over olive
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:32 PM
Nov 2013

but you should not use either to cook.

When to skip olive oil: If you’re cooking over high heat, don’t choose olive oil. Olive oil has a lower smoke point—the point at which an oil literally begins to smoke (olive oil’s is between 365° and 420°F)—than some other oils. When you heat olive oil to its smoke point, the beneficial compounds in oil start to degrade, and potentially health-harming compounds form.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
12. LA Times article, homepage today, link categorized as business/money/.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-fda-trans-fat-20131107,0,5415335.story#axzz2jypMKNZH

Citing health risks, FDA moves to ban trans fat from processed foods
By Ricardo Lopez
November 7, 2013, 7:50 a.m.


The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday proposed a rule change that would eliminate trans fat from all processed foods in a move the agency said would prevent heart attacks and other heart disease.

"While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concerns," said FDA Commissioner Margaret A. Hamburg.

The agency has issued a preliminary determination that partially hydrogenated oils, the main source of artificial trans fat in processed foods, are not "generally recognized as safe." That assessment is based on a review of scientific evidence and expert scientific testimony, the agency said.

If the change is adopted, partially hydrogenated oils would be considered "food additives" and could not be used unless authorized by regulation, virtually eliminating their use in foods.

Food manufacturers would have to prove that trans fat is safe to eat. The Institute of Medicine, an independent agency, has concluded that trans fat provides no known health benefit and that there is no safe level of artificial trans fat.

<>

The FDA said trans fat intake has dropped to 1 gram per day in 2012, down from 4.6 grams per day in 2006.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. As a matterof fact...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:54 PM
Nov 2013

This is from a 2009 article,

Pioneer Hi-Bred says its genetically engineered soybean will make an oil that has no artery-clogging trans fats.
The high-oleic oil is supposed to last three to five times longer in commercial fryers than most zero-trans-fat oils.

Americans consume 31 billion pounds of oil a year. Up to 40% of that oil is hydrogenated, meaning high in trans fats.

The FDA has approved the high-oleic soybean.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/weightloss/2009-04-13-soybean-trans-fats_N.htm

Most corn and soybeans grown here are now GM.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
16. I don't want to lose my Coffeemate
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:20 PM
Nov 2013
http://www.coffee-mate.com/Faqs.aspx

It's listed as 0 grams on the bottle but they confess on their website that it has 0.5 grams.

Honestly, I don't eat a lot of processed foods, and I don't see where a couple of tablespoons of Coffeemate every day is going to kill me.

PLEASE CAN I KEEP MY COFFEEMATE?????

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. Here are some products that may have hidden trans fat:
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:02 PM
Nov 2013

If a product contains less than .5 grams of trans fat per serving, the FDA says it can be labeled as trans fat-free.


Pancake mixes
Flavored coffee creamers
Microwave popcorn
Pie crusts
Gravy mixes
Shakes or creamy drinks
Buffalo or BBQ sauces
Croutons
Fried foods
Hot chocolate
Cereal

croutons...damn.

We have eliminated a lot of processed foods from the grocery list for years now.
But still, there are some recipes that I use canned "cream of" soups in, occasionally.

sigh...

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
26. Flavored coffee creamers can contain
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:10 PM
Nov 2013

Paint thinners and other things equally nasty. Those things are not food - they are poison, and the trans fat part of 'em is probably the least offensive.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
31. "The Institute of Medicine has concluded that there is no safe level for consumption"
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

From the OP:

"The Institute of Medicine has concluded that there is no safe level for consumption of artificial trans fats."


Try protein powder instead.

This stuff is pretty good: http://www.jayrobb.com/protein/Whey-protein-vanilla-packet.asp



RandiFan1290

(6,237 posts)
22. Does this mean that the obnoxious among us
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:33 PM
Nov 2013

will start to eat large amounts of trans fats? Maybe by the bucket full?

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
23. It's the creeping crud...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:11 PM
Nov 2013

The Cocteau Plan is coming to pass...

"I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing 'I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener.'" - Edgar Friendly

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
29. Newspaper title is misleading - (surprise!) - artificial trans fats
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:22 PM
Nov 2013

.
.
.

or partially hydrogenated oils are the issues.

natural oils are not dealt with here.

All the suppliers, manufacturers whatever have to claim/prove is that partially hydrogenated oils are not on the menu.

From the OP:

The Institute of Medicine has concluded that there is no safe level for consumption of artificial trans fats.
__________________________________________________________________________________

artificial trans fats

carry on.

CC

ps: I'll have fries with that please - - -

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
37. No thinking person in the USA should trust headlines -
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:23 PM
Nov 2013

or newspaper article content, for that matter. What I found out about news articles, and their "truthiness" was related in particular to the MTBE gas additive situation, but the situation can be extrapolated to many others:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/06/22/540267/-The-TRUTH-Versus-the-Mainstream-Media

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. Such as many people believed they wanted prior to Upton Sinclair's writings...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:40 AM
Nov 2013

"Let people eat what they want..."

Such as many people believed they wanted prior to Upton Sinclair's writings.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. And amazingly we still have factory farms
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:01 AM
Nov 2013

With conditions as grotesque as during Upton Sinclair's time or worse.

No animals are involved in the creation of trans-fats incidentally.

BadgerKid

(4,553 posts)
33. Been noticing more products w/o TFAs in recent years.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:13 AM
Nov 2013

Maybe manufacturers aren't going to be as "inconvenienced" as people think? My guess is if people wanted to limit TFA intake, then don't eat as many deep-fried foods.

aikanae

(202 posts)
38. I don't believe anything FDA says.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:16 PM
Nov 2013

I am convinced the FDA is nothing but a mouthpiece for pharmaceticals. Right now I wouldn't jump at anything they propose for "public health" without figuring out who is going to profit from their decision first. They have undermined their own integritry too many times.

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