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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:51 AM Nov 2013

'We were wrong': CBS's Lara Logan apologizes for Benghazi report

Source: CNN

CBS correspondent Lara Logan apologized Friday and said the network was "wrong" for a "60 Minutes" report that raised questions about the Obama administration's response to last year's attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya. The assault left four Americans dead, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

"In this case, we were wrong. We made a mistake," she said on "CBS This Morning." "That's disappointing for any journalist. It's very disappointing for me."

A primary source for the "60 Minutes" report on October 27 was a security contractor using the pseudonym "Morgan Jones," later identified as Dylan Davies. Davies told CBS he was able to reach the Benghazi compound on the night of September 11, 2012, scale a wall and even fight off a militant.

That story cast doubt on whether the Obama administration sent all possible help to try to save Stevens and his three colleagues. The "60 Minutes" story was cited by congressional Republicans who have demanded to know why a military rescue was not attempted . . .

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/08/politics/cbs-benghazi/



Congrats to Media Matters and others who called out CBS for this junk.
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'We were wrong': CBS's Lara Logan apologizes for Benghazi report (Original Post) Faygo Kid Nov 2013 OP
Stupid too; many of us not claiming to be journalists knew you were wrong before you aired it. Scuba Nov 2013 #1
do a piece explaining the error. apologies are cheap roguevalley Nov 2013 #31
That I'd like to see! Scuba Nov 2013 #37
As cheap as the price Logan sold herself out for. Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #49
"Solid warmonger apologist for the MIC" workinclasszero Nov 2013 #104
That was my first thought too. tblue Nov 2013 #69
And spent as much time explaining where you went wrong..... daleanime Nov 2013 #121
and do it on Faux "News" wordpix Nov 2013 #125
That's probably a great idea. "how misinformation and couple lies- can build a fake crisis" Sunlei Nov 2013 #141
They're too stupid to realize Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #174
Resign or be fired. Either or. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #62
Whatever happened to "Investigative" Iliyah Nov 2013 #64
you'd think these "muckrakers" would have learned after BushCo's "valid" source, Chalabi wordpix Nov 2013 #126
If she did any work at all on this, she must have known beforehand it was a pack of lies Berlum Nov 2013 #164
Disappointing for journalists? NastyRiffraff Nov 2013 #2
Sadly, this is a typical case of "a lie going around the world nonoxy9 Nov 2013 #95
A double injury for CBS. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #3
lol. cui bono Nov 2013 #93
Time for Lara Logan to go. Anyone who thinks she did not boomersense Nov 2013 #4
I think she knows her days at CBS are numbered Major Nikon Nov 2013 #14
That would be okay with me. I have less chance of watching boomersense Nov 2013 #20
Your post made my day! nt mimi85 Nov 2013 #123
Good!.........nt boomersense Nov 2013 #148
Dan Rather was fired for much less! JDPriestly Nov 2013 #89
That was the very first thought that went through my head... dorkzilla Nov 2013 #120
+1000. "As a journalist, you have to be complementary to generals, closeupready Nov 2013 #25
Edward R Murrow is turning over in his grave. I remember. I boomersense Nov 2013 #32
Why pile on Lara? Scairp Nov 2013 #84
Because it was her damn segment. closeupready Nov 2013 #86
The buck stops with her. StrictlyRockers Nov 2013 #91
Because I think she knew exactly what she was doing. Exactly boomersense Nov 2013 #96
I totally disagree with everyone on this Scairp Nov 2013 #97
There are none so blind..... DeSwiss Nov 2013 #116
Memories are short. Logan reported fearlessly from Iraq and was gang raped in Egypt. Rose Siding Nov 2013 #109
Dan Rather was screwed big time for telling the truth. pangaia Nov 2013 #170
Her lying about this Benghazi story LibGranny Nov 2013 #173
Excuse me Scairp Nov 2013 #175
Rather was right. :-| n/t DeSwiss Nov 2013 #113
Didn't Rather get fired? rpannier Nov 2013 #115
You can support a useless liar all you want to. I'm not in. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #133
Have any of us FORGOTTEN the Rather thing? pangaia Nov 2013 #169
It happens--especially when the reporter has an agenda. truebluegreen Nov 2013 #171
Looks like Sen. Lindsey Graham’s office is going to need a new voicemail message Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #5
CBS= Complete Bull Shit QuestForSense Nov 2013 #6
CBS = "Cock-and-Bull Story" KansDem Nov 2013 #8
Well, dayum, that's good, too! freshwest Nov 2013 #15
Their new motto! freshwest Nov 2013 #13
From the department of that horse has left the barn Botany Nov 2013 #7
That's too funny! Great analogy and visual. ffr Nov 2013 #23
That looks familiar...I've been on the ground watching my horse do that... AllyCat Nov 2013 #24
Sometimes horses realize that they are a lot stronger then the people around them .... Botany Nov 2013 #29
Yeah, espcially the mare I could insert into that photo! AllyCat Nov 2013 #34
years ago I was on a very big quarter horse and after about 20 minutes ... Botany Nov 2013 #42
reminds me of my ex Skittles Nov 2013 #66
Oh wow... Xyzse Nov 2013 #67
YEE HAW! Skittles Nov 2013 #71
re:'We were wrong': CBS's Lara Logan apologizes for Benghazi report allan01 Nov 2013 #9
no one ever interviewed those who took Ambassador Stevens to the hospital. Sunlei Nov 2013 #10
I'm not sure how they didn't see through the story to begin with. JoeyT Nov 2013 #11
ha The Unknown hot Canadian Gf is always a dead giveaway Heather MC Nov 2013 #26
That sequence of events happens to me so often I have a name for it: reflection Nov 2013 #54
Rofl... 4_TN_TITANS Nov 2013 #55
lol Love it. ctsnowman Nov 2013 #74
Best thing I've read today! DeSwiss Nov 2013 #114
LOL nt SunSeeker Nov 2013 #162
It is straight out of the Red Rascal's exploits! nt tblue37 Nov 2013 #176
The damage is done, but I'm glad that they apologized. Beacool Nov 2013 #12
CBS needs to to as extensive an apology on 60 Minutes Mz Pip Nov 2013 #17
I doubt that they will do a whole segment on it. Beacool Nov 2013 #44
I'm betting under 60 seconds itsrobert Nov 2013 #94
How about they do a report on how they got scammed, and who inside Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #83
Yes Mz Pip Nov 2013 #87
because they don't give a rat's ass about those people. barbtries Nov 2013 #46
IOkIYAR thelordofhell Nov 2013 #59
Apologizing on a morning show is one thing, are they/is she going to devote another winterpark Nov 2013 #16
I am waiting for the M$M to start broadcasting this far and wide... AllyCat Nov 2013 #18
....<crickets>..... lastlib Nov 2013 #51
She's cute, but not much of a journalist, the latest example closeupready Nov 2013 #19
No kidding? Friday News dump? Poor and unacceptable! ffr Nov 2013 #21
When I was watching that 60 mins segment... SHRED Nov 2013 #22
yeah, the hit with the rifle butt in the dark was pure Hollywood wordpix Nov 2013 #127
Waiting for CBS to fire her like they did Dan Rather. SchmerzImArsch Nov 2013 #27
And CBS ctsnowman Nov 2013 #28
They pulled his book, too. Atman Nov 2013 #138
FIRE HER alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #30
Yes, she should be history, and everyone associated with her crap segment should be scrutinized. n/t MerryBlooms Nov 2013 #98
Coch Brothers Syncophants? freshwest Nov 2013 #33
Do you PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #41
Just right click on it and copy the URL. Beacool Nov 2013 #45
:-) DeSwiss Nov 2013 #101
Thanks!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #118
When I worked mimi85 Nov 2013 #124
I'm glad that you got to laugh. Beacool Nov 2013 #145
Who is that guy? red dog 1 Nov 2013 #157
Click on the photo for a drop down window and it will give you the link. Let me know if that works. freshwest Nov 2013 #52
Ok PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #68
Rats PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #70
Okay, give me a second and I'll get it for you so it'll work. freshwest Nov 2013 #82
I tried PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #108
Did you compress the sentence? It shows up as an underlined link and a sentence. The link won't work freshwest Nov 2013 #111
I did PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #112
I'd like to know also mimi85 Nov 2013 #129
That's what I have. I found it through google images. If DU didn't automatically convert links to freshwest Nov 2013 #158
Try this. It's the same URL with the "h" at the start removed JHB Nov 2013 #134
Good method. freshwest Nov 2013 #159
Who put Davies up to this lie? Who was he working with? bushisanidiot Nov 2013 #35
"When Lara Logan Trashed Michael Hastings" Hissyspit Nov 2013 #36
I first learned of that from reading Glenn Greenwald. deurbano Nov 2013 #53
One of the first times I mimi85 Nov 2013 #131
k & r Berlum Nov 2013 #165
Issa and his goons will still waste tax payers Iliyah Nov 2013 #38
SeeBS is..... HoosierCowboy Nov 2013 #39
Marcy Wheeler: @emptywheel: Just to remind, it's Cheney flack Mary Matalin's imprint which published Hissyspit Nov 2013 #40
im sure she'll be losing her job next barbtries Nov 2013 #43
roger ailes on line three myshadow1 Nov 2013 #100
Unfortunately, a lie travels halfway round the world before bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #47
I wonder what Dan Rather thinks of this young_at_heart Nov 2013 #48
"Dan Rather declined to comment... red dog 1 Nov 2013 #151
How did the 60 minutes story contradict the account provided by the State Dept. Hamlette Nov 2013 #50
This washington post article explains alp227 Nov 2013 #56
so, Lindsay is pissed because the WH closed the investigation w/o talking to the "witnesses" Hamlette Nov 2013 #65
She should resign or be fired cosmicone Nov 2013 #57
it's hard to take this seriously when the right didn't exactly hold Baby Bush's feet to the fire for yurbud Nov 2013 #58
Meaningless. liberalmuse Nov 2013 #60
a lot of people lie on TV interviews (like republicans), why is it the journalists fault? Sunlei Nov 2013 #61
journalists are supposed to investigate their sources first before pronouncing them credible wordpix Nov 2013 #130
the source was his book and he was stationed there. He lied to the journalist (and the public) Sunlei Nov 2013 #139
when you only have one source, you should check him out thoroughly wordpix Nov 2013 #146
As has been said elsewhere, Journalism 101: truebluegreen Nov 2013 #172
Fuck 60 Minutes...they lost all credibility in 1986 skepticscott Nov 2013 #63
Has Alex Jones or any other RWer called it intentional by CBS? NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #72
Disappointing? bucolic_frolic Nov 2013 #73
Sorry is not good enough. 60 minutes is not credible anymore. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #75
And once again, the Benghazi "scandal" deflates Blue Owl Nov 2013 #76
Won't do anything but arouse more suspicion from wing-nuts. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #77
"Is Fox News even covering the apology"? red dog 1 Nov 2013 #150
On their website, right after I asked the question, it was buried on the right side list of SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #153
Going to Fox News even once is more than I can take... red dog 1 Nov 2013 #154
I hear you. That was just their website though. I still wonder what kind of coverage their SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #160
My guess would be........None! red dog 1 Nov 2013 #161
And the moral of the story is ... Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #78
"60 Minutes" belongs on Fox. Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #79
I guess she won't be getting the Dan Rather treatment. dballance Nov 2013 #80
Next up on 60 Minutes: How the Grand Canyon was formed by Paul Bunyan dragging his ax... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #81
Separtely, how do serious journalists who share the 60 Minutes closeupready Nov 2013 #85
I call bullshit on her "disappointment". Yeah she's disappointed she got caught! AAO Nov 2013 #88
CBS going to do less retraction than This American Life which did an entire show retracting Paulie Nov 2013 #90
No, you did not make a mistake. You neglected to do your job. cui bono Nov 2013 #92
60 Minutes with their noose ready for Obama... Mike Nelson Nov 2013 #99
Yet, 2 110 story buildings fall at 10 stories a second Politicalboi Nov 2013 #102
Lets see...13 embassy attacks under Bushy boy workinclasszero Nov 2013 #103
Sen. Rand Paul: Time for you to un-fire ex-Sec. Hillary Clinton. SDjack Nov 2013 #105
As if............ Beacool Nov 2013 #119
Well if you werent in such a hurry to win ratings by screwing the president.. Vietnameravet Nov 2013 #106
NBC news just reported that a "60 Minutes" apology is forthcoming. Paladin Nov 2013 #107
you were wrong, alright azureblue Nov 2013 #110
I knew that the first 30 seconds I watched of the report. Hissyspit Nov 2013 #117
If Darrel Issa was dismissed from his committee chair and the next one told there would Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #122
When I get caught lying, I sometimes try the "I was wrong" weasel too Recursion Nov 2013 #128
Lara's sexual assault in Egypt. mimi85 Nov 2013 #132
How many more times will they allow themselves to be "duped"? snot Nov 2013 #135
The "60 Minutes" of Mike Wallace is gone. Now it's Chris Wallace. DFW Nov 2013 #136
and people wonder why the internet is rising DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #137
Some news organisations are blending traditional journalism with "outside sources". mwooldri Nov 2013 #143
I don't understand why this "Dylan Davies" isn't the target of intense scrutiny now? Sunlei Nov 2013 #140
No, Lara, a mistake is when you accidentally hit Reply All or wash a red sock in your whites. tanyev Nov 2013 #142
They "catapult the propaganda" for the right wing. Then, when their lies tblue37 Nov 2013 #144
She needs to be fired lanlady Nov 2013 #147
Dan Rather was a "real journalist" red dog 1 Nov 2013 #156
Dan Rather declined to comment on the discredited Benghazi story... red dog 1 Nov 2013 #149
I understand people make mistakes in good faith Skittles Nov 2013 #152
Its simple economics, big business is wasting advertising dollars on MSM that caters to.... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #155
She was duped imo. What really needs to happen is Ava Gadro Nov 2013 #163
Who watches 60 Minutes anymore? Nursing home residents? People who read Reader's Digest? jsr Nov 2013 #166
60 Minutes peddles fake BS story to appease Tea Baggers. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #167
Hey, Lara, who is WE? pangaia Nov 2013 #168

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
49. As cheap as the price Logan sold herself out for.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:26 PM
Nov 2013

Solid warmonger apologist for the MIC.

She doesn't do what she does for free, but compared to the hundreds of billions in profits her real owners make, she works for peanuts.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
104. "Solid warmonger apologist for the MIC"
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:08 PM
Nov 2013

Thats the only kind of "journalist" allowed on air in these corporate "news" programs anymore eh?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
141. That's probably a great idea. "how misinformation and couple lies- can build a fake crisis"
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 08:35 AM
Nov 2013

they can interview Dan Rather.

Mr.Bill

(24,317 posts)
174. They're too stupid to realize
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:37 AM
Nov 2013

that doing that would enhance their image more than just a short apology. It would almost be like real reporting, which at this point is a foreign concept to them.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
64. Whatever happened to "Investigative"
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:01 PM
Nov 2013

journalisms? That meaning have long left the building. Look at the so called journalist now . . .Chuck Todd, Gregory . .and Faked news have none.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
126. you'd think these "muckrakers" would have learned after BushCo's "valid" source, Chalabi
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:24 AM
Nov 2013

There was an agenda here just like back then, too.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
164. If she did any work at all on this, she must have known beforehand it was a pack of lies
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:02 AM
Nov 2013

CBS needs to do a massive expose on the right-wing republican lie machine, Inc.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
2. Disappointing for journalists?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:57 AM
Nov 2013

Don't think of just yourself; pity the poor. poor Republicans! They must be screaming, kicking their little feet and turning blue!

(for those who need it)

nonoxy9

(236 posts)
95. Sadly, this is a typical case of "a lie going around the world
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

Before the truth gets its pants on". The rethugs will just ignore it and move onto the next "scandal".

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
3. A double injury for CBS.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:57 AM
Nov 2013

Because of the apology their application to the right-wing news network will be revoked.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
4. Time for Lara Logan to go. Anyone who thinks she did not
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:01 AM
Nov 2013

know exactly what she was doing, I have a bridge to show you. Logan is pure MIC. 60 minutes was one of the last programs I would watch before I quit watching tv altogether. The institution 60 minutes was is no longer.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. I think she knows her days at CBS are numbered
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:16 AM
Nov 2013

She's just trying to set herself up for a future job at Faux News.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
20. That would be okay with me. I have less chance of watching
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
Nov 2013

Fox News than I do watching Chris Christie's fat head being unveiled at Mount Rushmore.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
120. That was the very first thought that went through my head...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:55 PM
Nov 2013

Wait, that's not true. My first thought was "where is my wine?", my second thought was "Dan Rather was hung out to dry for less". My third thought was "where is the corkscrew?"

Its been a loooooong day….

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
25. +1000. "As a journalist, you have to be complementary to generals,
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:26 AM
Nov 2013

in order to get the story." Remember that gem from her interview with Charlie Rose last year?

As if she's the first person to discover flattery when she actually is the last to realize it has almost no place in the professional journalist's repertoire.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
32. Edward R Murrow is turning over in his grave. I remember. I
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:31 AM
Nov 2013

think I read it here. I get most of my news from Latest Threads on this site.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
84. Why pile on Lara?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:37 PM
Nov 2013

Don't you know that producers, researchers do the legwork and so forth for stories? Whomever missed this extreme discrepancy is at fault here, not Ms. Logan. Cut her some slack. She's been through hell and back for her job and I find her brave and resilient. She isn't the first to get fooled by a source. Anybody remember the Dan Rather/Dubya/National Guard scandal? And he's been doing this since before Ms. Logan was born and he got burned, damaging his career. It happens.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
96. Because I think she knew exactly what she was doing. Exactly
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

the reliability of her story teller, but decided to go for it anyway so as to blacken Obama and make a name for herself with the MIC and their string-pullers. I see a side of her that you don't. I think it her who "missed" the extreme discrepancy.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
116. There are none so blind.....
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

...as those who cannot see.

- There's actually a difference between news and propaganda.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
109. Memories are short. Logan reported fearlessly from Iraq and was gang raped in Egypt.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:40 PM
Nov 2013

I remember her going after Ingraham and O'Reilly in the bush years. She paid heavy dues as a foreign correspondent. Hope she finds her way out of this one.

I don't, however, recall Rather getting burned the same way. Some right wing nuts were somehow allowed to discredit him with some bunk about, uh, kerning, wasn't it?

LibGranny

(711 posts)
173. Her lying about this Benghazi story
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:22 AM
Nov 2013

makes me question her Egypt story! That is what lying does for you - it DESTROYS your cred!

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
175. Excuse me
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:36 PM
Nov 2013

But she was violently sexually assaulted in Egypt and for you to call her a liar over it officially makes you a lousy person. It happened and she was lucky to live through it. And as I see it she didn't lie, she was lied to by sources thought reliable.

AllyCat

(16,216 posts)
24. That looks familiar...I've been on the ground watching my horse do that...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:25 AM
Nov 2013

At an event just like that too...with lots of people watching

Botany

(70,567 posts)
29. Sometimes horses realize that they are a lot stronger then the people around them ....
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:30 AM
Nov 2013

.... and decide that they don't want to do what the people want them to do.

AllyCat

(16,216 posts)
34. Yeah, espcially the mare I could insert into that photo!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:40 AM
Nov 2013

She had a mind of her own. Really embarrassing falling off at a show like that And it hurts.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
42. years ago I was on a very big quarter horse and after about 20 minutes ...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:11 PM
Nov 2013

.... he no longer wanted me on his back and then I was on the ground. He then
took off back to his barn and was waiting for me to feed and water him after my hike.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
66. reminds me of my ex
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:17 PM
Nov 2013

every time he climbed on his sister's horse it would run to the nearest tree and rub him off

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
71. YEE HAW!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:36 PM
Nov 2013

at work a tech guy was helping me with a laptop issue; he said OK, GO AHEAD AND JACK IT OFF (of its station)

allan01

(1,950 posts)
9. re:'We were wrong': CBS's Lara Logan apologizes for Benghazi report
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:07 AM
Nov 2013

liar. liar . pants on fire. ( my childish response)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. no one ever interviewed those who took Ambassador Stevens to the hospital.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:10 AM
Nov 2013

He didn't get there on his own.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
11. I'm not sure how they didn't see through the story to begin with.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:13 AM
Nov 2013
Davies told CBS he was able to reach the Benghazi compound on the night of September 11, 2012, scale a wall and even fight off a militant.


That whole sentence sounds like complete wish fulfillment. Something a fifteen year old that spent all night playing Call of Duty would come up with. Did he fight a dragon before hefting his fifteen inch penis into a Lamborghini and riding off into the sunset with his girlfriend (She's from Canada, you don't know her.) too?

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
12. The damage is done, but I'm glad that they apologized.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:15 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:22 PM - Edit history (1)

I hope that CBS will also make a public apology on 60 Minutes this Sunday.

I don't get it, thousands of people both civilian and military, died during the Bush years: two wars, 9/11/01, 60 plus people attacked by terrorists at diplomatic posts, etc. and the RW is foaming at the mouth over four people????

The death of the ambassador and the others was a tragedy that I hope is never repeated, but the way the RW is going after Obama and Hillary is way over the top.



Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
17. CBS needs to to as extensive an apology on 60 Minutes
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:20 AM
Nov 2013

Ar they did on their original report. They need to do a segment on exactly what was wrong in their original segment.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
44. I doubt that they will do a whole segment on it.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013

Lara will probably go on air and issue an apology. Five minutes tops.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
83. How about they do a report on how they got scammed, and who inside
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:36 PM
Nov 2013

CBS news participated in perpetrating the scam?

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
46. because they don't give a rat's ass about those people.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:19 PM
Nov 2013

they're probably happy the people died frankly: it gave them something to go after the president about. that is all they really care about.

winterpark

(168 posts)
16. Apologizing on a morning show is one thing, are they/is she going to devote another
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:19 AM
Nov 2013

60mins segment on how wrong she was to present such a clearly biased and unresearched report? I think not. I knew it was bullshit when I watched it. I knew it was nothing but another 60mn hit piece on this Administration

AllyCat

(16,216 posts)
18. I am waiting for the M$M to start broadcasting this far and wide...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:21 AM
Nov 2013

...still waiting...guess I'll put my feet up. Might be here awhile.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. She's cute, but not much of a journalist, the latest example
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
Nov 2013

of her incompetence being that report.

I give credit to her for publicly admitting to this, however.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
21. No kidding? Friday News dump? Poor and unacceptable!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:23 AM
Nov 2013

If you really want to apologize CBS, do it by taking out a ads on Fixed Noise.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
22. When I was watching that 60 mins segment...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

...the story was unbelievable. It seemed bogus and far fetched. Like some sort of Hollywood fantasy. What was disgusting were the softball questions to that liar. It's as if Lara was "in on it".

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
127. yeah, the hit with the rifle butt in the dark was pure Hollywood
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:29 AM
Nov 2013

I was thinking WTF? This sounds like James Bond or something.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
138. They pulled his book, too.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:50 AM
Nov 2013

They're definitely doing some damage control. I, for one, will tune into to 60 Minutes tomorrow just to see how they handle it.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
30. FIRE HER
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:30 AM
Nov 2013

Are they fucking joking. They shitcanned Rather for a less egregious error. She should be cashiered yesterday.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
33. Coch Brothers Syncophants?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:35 AM
Nov 2013
IF THEY DON'T DEVOTE AS MUCH AIRTIME TO DEBUNKING THIS AS THEY DID AIRING AND ADVERTISING:



FUCK 'EM!

You know this will be used to hurt Democrats who Obama has campaigned for and winning. That lame protest in Dallas was created by this oh, so delicious lie. They've also been caught lying about the ACA for their Koch masters. They are a cancer, destroying a major source for many people to make informed voting choices.

I'd wish the FCC would yank their license, but then we really would be the party CBS represents.



mimi85

(1,805 posts)
124. When I worked
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:09 AM
Nov 2013

me too! Shit, I needed that laugh, rough day. Those are both so freaking hilarious. I even called my husband to look at them. Seriously lmao!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
52. Click on the photo for a drop down window and it will give you the link. Let me know if that works.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:33 PM
Nov 2013

Otherwise I'll copy the link and break it in half so it'll show up as text for you.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
82. Okay, give me a second and I'll get it for you so it'll work.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

I'm back. Here's the link, just cut the space I made with a paragraph to create one 'sentence' and that will give you the link in your browser, or just to paste in a message box. It'll read as a 'sentence' when compressed that way in your edit function, but will pop up as a picture in preview or posting. Here goes:

http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/

funny-cat-pushing-things-off-table-fuck-this-animated-gif-pics.gif

Give it a try and let me know how it works! You can also post that into another screen's address bar and drag that to your desktop. I have this in its own little folder, the link, the picture and I use the pictures as an icon on the folder. That way I can see what I'm looking for to use. When you make the sentence, you get:



Good luck!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
111. Did you compress the sentence? It shows up as an underlined link and a sentence. The link won't work
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:55 PM
Nov 2013

You are not getting the entire sentence together. It's a very, very long link. If you can click on any link and get an answer, even an error, there is nothing wrong with the computer. Also, many people when highlighting to copy for pasting, don't get the entire link highlighted, and that is why it doesn't work. I wish you'd try again.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
158. That's what I have. I found it through google images. If DU didn't automatically convert links to
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:21 PM
Nov 2013

videos and images, I could send or post the link itself. Here is the search page:

http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&q=cat+says+fuck+this&gbv=2&oq=cat+says+fuck+this&gs_l=img.3...1498.7272.0.8175.30.16.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac.1.24.img..30.0.0.I6zMIyP0_jw

It's the second image, click on it and it will give the image and copy the address and paste it. See if that works for you.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
134. Try this. It's the same URL with the "h" at the start removed
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:07 AM
Nov 2013

Just remember to add the "h" back

With "h" removed:

ttp://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/funny-cat-pushing-things-off-table-fuck-this-animated-gif-pics.gif

With "h" added back:



I know there's a smoother way of showing that, but I'm going to bed in 2 minutes and not going to look it up.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
36. "When Lara Logan Trashed Michael Hastings"
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:49 AM
Nov 2013
http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2013/11/when-lara-logan-trashed-michael-hastings.html

When Lara Logan Trashed Michael Hastings

Worth re-visiting the McChrystal backlash in light of, you know. Matt Taibbi covered it in Rolling Stone in 2011 in one of his classics. Excerpt:

http://m.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/lara-logan-you-suck-20100628

I thought I'd seen everything when I read David Brooks saying out loud in a New York Times column that reporters should sit on damaging comments to save their sources from their own idiocy. But now we get CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent Lara Logan slamming our own Michael Hastings on CNN's "Reliable Sources" program, agreeing that the Rolling Stone reporter violated an "unspoken agreement" that journalists are not supposed to "embarrass [the troops] by reporting insults and banter."

Anyone who wants to know why network television news hasn't mattered since the seventies just needs to check out this appearance by Logan. Here's CBS's chief foreign correspondent saying out loud on TV that when the man running a war that's killing thousands of young men and women every year steps on his own dick in front of a journalist, that journalist is supposed to eat the story so as not to embarrass the flag. And the part that really gets me is Logan bitching about how Hastings was dishonest to use human warmth and charm to build up enough of a rapport with his sources that they felt comfortable running their mouths off in front of him....

As to this whole "unspoken agreement" business: the reason Lara Logan thinks this is because she's like pretty much every other "reputable" journalist in this country, in that she suffers from a profound confusion about who she's supposed to be working for. I know this from my years covering presidential campaigns, where the same dynamic applies. Hey, assholes: you do not work for the people you're covering! Jesus, is this concept that fucking hard?

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
53. I first learned of that from reading Glenn Greenwald.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:43 PM
Nov 2013

MONDAY, JUN 28, 2010 04:29 AM PDT
The Two Poles of Journalism
Michael Hastings and Lara Logan illustrate the difference between afflicting and serving the powerful
BY GLENN GREENWALD

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/28/journalism_9/

<<With his Rolling Stone article on Gen. McChrystal, Michael Hastings has become both the personification of, and spokesperson for, Real Journalism, and as a result, has provoked intense animosity from establishment-serving “reporters” everywhere. He apparently committed the gravest sin: he exposed and embarrassed rather than flattered and protected a powerful government official, and in our upside-down media culture, doing that is a sign of irresponsibility rather than fulfillment of the basic journalistic function. As Barrett Brown notes in this excellent defense, Hastings in 2008 did to the establishment media what he did to Gen. McChyrstal — exposed what they do and how they think by writing the truth — after he quit Newsweek (where he was the Baghdad correspondent) and wrote a damning exposé about how the media distorts war coverage. As Brown put it: “Hastings ensured that he would never be trusted by the establishment media ever again.”

Yesterday, Hastings was interviewed on CNN’s Reliable Sources about the criticisms he has received from media figures over his article, and that was followed by a segment with CBS’ Lara Logan, who lambasted him. I really recommend watching these two segments (video below), as they illustrate the two poles of journalism: those who view their role as exposing the relevant secrets of the powerful (Hastings) and those who view their role as protecting those secrets and serving the interests of those officials (Logan). Amazingly, Logan sounds like the most devoted member of McChyrstal’s P.R. staff or even his family: so furious is she that Hastings would publish an article that reflected negatively on this Fine, Great Man (whom she supposedly covers) – so devoted is she to the interests of this military official — that, at one point, she drops the neutral journalist mask and shows her Bill Kristol face, and actually spat: “Michael Hastings has never served his country the way McChrystal has.” >>

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
131. One of the first times I
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:36 AM
Nov 2013

I like what GG had to say. Usually I find him insufferably narcissistic.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
38. Issa and his goons will still waste tax payers
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:57 AM
Nov 2013

money and continue the investigation on Benghazi and Obamacare.

Ms. Lindsey and her boyfriend McCain will still cry foul and want more witnesses.

This will continue up to and including 2016 which will keep H Clinton front and center in a very bad light.

GOPers don't give a fuck about the deaths of the 4 Americans and the Libyans who tried to protect them.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
39. SeeBS is.....
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:59 AM
Nov 2013

....just Fox News in sheeps' clothing. They feel their position as the Unofficial Official mouthpiece for the people that think they can run the world gives them immunity from being questioned.

I try not to waste too much time on information given to me by people that make 100x more than the average working stiff, thank you. The best clarification of the objectivity of the MSM will happen when the salaries of the people giving you the news is posted right before they start talking.

It used to be don't trust anyone 30, now its don't trust anyone over 50,000 a year.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
40. Marcy Wheeler: @emptywheel: Just to remind, it's Cheney flack Mary Matalin's imprint which published
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:02 PM
Nov 2013

@emptywheel: Just to remind, it's Cheney flack Mary Matalin's imprint which published "Morgan Jones" and mainstreamed him to 60 Minutes. #FireMaryMatalin

young_at_heart

(3,772 posts)
48. I wonder what Dan Rather thinks of this
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:26 PM
Nov 2013

I believe Dan was set up by some Republican operatives! After all his years at CBS, they treated him like pond scum!

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
50. How did the 60 minutes story contradict the account provided by the State Dept.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:31 PM
Nov 2013

I haven't been following the Benghazi story because the accusations of Issa et al sounded completely unhinged. Sorry for being such a dope but this apology from Lara Logan, who did some good work early in her career, is big enough to make me want to know more, in large part because I can't help but giggle when I think of Lindsay's reaction to the apology.

Thanks.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
65. so, Lindsay is pissed because the WH closed the investigation w/o talking to the "witnesses"
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:02 PM
Nov 2013

and it turns out the "witness" wasn't even there.

Sweeeeet.

If Graham had a shred of decency he'd apologize too.

But he doesn't, so he won't. And to think there was a time Graham didn't drive me completely crazy. True story. He was pretty good on the torture issue, pushing back in public against the "this isn't torture" and "we can do it because we are exceptional" bs from W and Cheney. Stopped clock right once a day I suppose.

Anyway, thanks for the link. I honestly thought there was more to it than this. Davies apparently doesn't say the WH lied about anything. At least not according to the WP.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
57. She should resign or be fired
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:46 PM
Nov 2013

and get some other line of work. She has been a shill for the MIC for a long time. When Rolling Stones published a general's private rants against President Obama, she said they shouldn't have done it under journalistic ethics when clearly the public's right to know outweighed and made the rants newsworthy.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
58. it's hard to take this seriously when the right didn't exactly hold Baby Bush's feet to the fire for
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:48 PM
Nov 2013

9/11.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
60. Meaningless.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:52 PM
Nov 2013

Unless they do a full show to report on the truth. Otherwise it's just lies on page 1, retraction on page 12.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
61. a lot of people lie on TV interviews (like republicans), why is it the journalists fault?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:56 PM
Nov 2013

besides if a person is charged with some kind of crime, they are responsible for what they say to media on interviews.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
130. journalists are supposed to investigate their sources first before pronouncing them credible
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:34 AM
Nov 2013

You don't just pull any guy off the street for an interview as a witness. You don't just believe a guy's story b/c he says he was in Benghazi at the exact moment right after the attack and touts himself as a Big Hero.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
139. the source was his book and he was stationed there. He lied to the journalist (and the public)
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:57 AM
Nov 2013

edit to place in Slate (I think) did a book excerpt months before the journalists interview on the same 'story'. So maybe that media fed the misinformation to the other medias. I still don't understand why the journalist or that media is the target.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
146. when you only have one source, you should check him out thoroughly
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:48 AM
Nov 2013

If you don't, you could end up with mud on your face and lack of credibility, which is what happened here.

And just b/c the guy has a book coming out, that is all the more reason to check the source. What an author puts in a book is not necessarily the truth and nothing but. The journalists should have been all the more skeptical b/c having a book come out is obviously a motive to tell a tall tale that will sell more books, be made into a movie, and make million$ for the source. That's a powerful motive to embellish details and outright lie. 60 Mins. should have checked this guy out thoroughly before going with the interview.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
172. As has been said elsewhere, Journalism 101:
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 10:37 PM
Nov 2013

single source, with a conflict of interest (wants to sell books). And they already knew he had told two different stories--and the one he's selling lately is the Rambo version. Red flags all over the place. Painfully obvious, especially to anyone in the biz...unless the "anyone" has an agenda (as Logan does).

A 90-second apology for this pile of crap? Not nearly enough.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
63. Fuck 60 Minutes...they lost all credibility in 1986
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:01 PM
Nov 2013

With their bogus story on "sudden acceleration" in Audis. Anyone but a bought and paid for moron (hello, Ed Bradley..and all of your producers) should have known that the whole thing was bogus, as very simple tests showed. Haven't matched a minute of it since, and haven't missed it. Nothing has changed at CBS.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
72. Has Alex Jones or any other RWer called it intentional by CBS?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:42 PM
Nov 2013

intentionally putting a false story out there, so the retraction vindicates Obama & Clinton?

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
73. Disappointing?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:43 PM
Nov 2013

You're paid millions of dollars a year and you call this disappointing?

This is unconscionable. Unprofessional. It borders on fraudulent
irresponsibility.

They eventually ran Dan Rather out of town for the AWOL story, and they
should make heads roll and fire the unprofessionals responsible
for failing to corroborate the facts on this cooked up story.

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
150. "Is Fox News even covering the apology"?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:55 PM
Nov 2013

Believe it or not, the answer is "Yes"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/07/60-minutes-reviewing-account-benghazi-attack-witness/


From the Faux News story:
"Morgan Jones told "60 Minutes" that Al Qaeda forces first attacked the U.S. Special Missions Compound, where Ambassador Stevens was killed...Then they launched a second attack on a secret CIA annex about a mile across the city."
"They knew what they were doing," he told CBS.."That was a well-executed attack."


SleeplessinSoCal

(9,138 posts)
153. On their website, right after I asked the question, it was buried on the right side list of
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:12 PM
Nov 2013

20 of the "latest stories". I don't see it there today. Take a look around, if you don't mind being angry for getting dumbed down for a while.

http://www.foxnews.com/

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,138 posts)
160. I hear you. That was just their website though. I still wonder what kind of coverage their
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 07:27 PM
Nov 2013

cable channel got.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
78. And the moral of the story is ...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 02:26 PM
Nov 2013

Anytime anything comes along that fits the right wing's narrative, consider it a lie and the source a fraud until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt otherwise. Then wait a year or more and look at it all over again before you even think about giving it any credence. They are shameless, compulsive and habitual liars.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
80. I guess she won't be getting the Dan Rather treatment.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:06 PM
Nov 2013

Since this was a false story about a Democratic President it's okay for her to keep her job. Despite the fact that a True story about a Republican President got Dan Rather fired.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
81. Next up on 60 Minutes: How the Grand Canyon was formed by Paul Bunyan dragging his ax...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:20 PM
Nov 2013

It must be true because people telling it have been consistent in the story from the word go and have downplayed their own role in the story.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
85. Separtely, how do serious journalists who share the 60 Minutes
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:39 PM
Nov 2013

tagline with amateurs like Logan feel, seeing the program they've devoted their lives to being dragged through the mud, making it seem more like a tabloid than a serious journalistic institution?

Honestly, the jokes are going to start writing themselves when it comes to being a 'reporter' from 60 Minutes, seems like.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
90. CBS going to do less retraction than This American Life which did an entire show retracting
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:22 PM
Nov 2013
This American Life Retracts Story
Says It Can't Vouch for the Truth of Mike Daisey's Monologue about Apple in China

This American Life and American Public Media’s Marketplace will reveal that a story first broadcast in January on This American Life contained numerous fabrications.

This American Life will devote its entire program this weekend to detailing the errors in the story, which was an excerpt of Mike Daisey's critically acclaimed one-man show, "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs." In it, Daisey tells how he visited a factory owned by Foxconn that manufactures iPhones and iPads in Shenzhen China. He has performed the monologue in theaters around the country; it's currently at the Public Theater in New York. Tonight’s This American Life program will include a segment from Marketplace’s Rob Schmitz, and interviews with Daisey himself. Marketplace will feature a shorter version of Schmitz's report earlier in the evening.

When the original 39-minute excerpt was broadcast on This American Life on January 6, 2012, Marketplace China Correspondent Rob Schmitz wondered about its truth. Marketplace had done a lot of reporting on Foxconn and Apple’s supply chain in China in the past, and Schmitz had first-hand knowledge of the issues. He located and interviewed Daisey's Chinese interpreter Li Guifen (who goes by the name Cathy Lee professionally with westerners). She disputed much of what Daisey has been telling theater audiences since 2010 and much of what he said on the radio.

During fact checking before the broadcast of Daisey's story, This American Life staffers asked Daisey for this interpreter's contact information. Daisey told them her real name was Anna, not Cathy as he says in his monologue, and he said that the cell phone number he had for her didn't work any more. He said he had no way to reach her.


http://www.thisamericanlife.org/blog/2012/03/retracting-mr-daisey-and-the-apple-factory

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
92. No, you did not make a mistake. You neglected to do your job.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:44 PM
Nov 2013

Huge difference. Time to resign or get fired.

Mike Nelson

(9,966 posts)
99. 60 Minutes with their noose ready for Obama...
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

...but GWB gets away with more obvious errors...
(Just calling it the way it is.)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
103. Lets see...13 embassy attacks under Bushy boy
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:02 PM
Nov 2013

Marine barracks attack under Raygun...240 or so Marines killed...reich wing is silent.

One terribly sad attack under Pres O and all hell breaks loose on the reich.

Lets note the differences...repig vs democratic...and white vs black.

hmm...f in slimeballs!

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/13-benghazis-that-occurre_b_3246847.html

At 6:39 a.m. on that autumn day in 1983, 220 Marines, 18 sailors and three American civilians were killed and another 60 were injured as a result of a horrific explosion detonated by a terrorist suicide truck bomb that destroyed the Marine barracks at the airport in Beirut, Lebanon.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/entertainment/in-debacle-reagan-escaped-the-blame-game/article_0174fce9-b60c-5b6b-8934-915bd3c2bcf7.html

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
106. Well if you werent in such a hurry to win ratings by screwing the president..
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:22 PM
Nov 2013

this would not have happened..

BULLSHIT!!!!! That is what I say to your goddamned apologies..

Paladin

(28,271 posts)
107. NBC news just reported that a "60 Minutes" apology is forthcoming.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:46 PM
Nov 2013

Might be worth watching this Sunday, for a change......

azureblue

(2,150 posts)
110. you were wrong, alright
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

You were wrong for pandering to right wing nut jobs. And you would not admit you propagated a lie until you were forced to. You knew it was a lie from the beginning and you went ahead, anyway. Eat crow.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
122. If Darrel Issa was dismissed from his committee chair and the next one told there would
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:52 AM
Nov 2013

Not be anymore time and money spent on their committee investigation we would be dollars. I would like to see an apology from Lara Logan and have her to expose her lying source. There should be some apologies coming from the GOP rats also.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
128. When I get caught lying, I sometimes try the "I was wrong" weasel too
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:32 AM
Nov 2013

It rarely works for me, at least.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
132. Lara's sexual assault in Egypt.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:45 AM
Nov 2013

In Wikipedia, there's the bit about her being sexually assaulted in Egypt. I don't doubt that it happened, but "she said the incident involved 200–300 men and lasted around 25 minutes". What is that, a dude every 15 seconds? Rape is without a doubt a horrendous act and I'm not making any excuses for it in the least. But is that really believable?

DFW

(54,436 posts)
136. The "60 Minutes" of Mike Wallace is gone. Now it's Chris Wallace.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:24 AM
Nov 2013

They figure they need to attract an audience the size of that of Fox Noise.

So they act like Fox Noise.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
137. and people wonder why the internet is rising
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:43 AM
Nov 2013

While traditonal journalism is falling.

Sorry kids, but you allowed people to see that behind all that lovely journalistic crap were a bunch of clowns hiding behind a curtain. It is not that we do not need real journalism; why else would we heap honors upon Jon Stewart who at times seems to beg to be allowed to be the guy who tells fart jokes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-207_162-4863292.html

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-12-2009/jim-cramer-pt--1

But it is clear that the oligarchy has bought, pushed, and shoved itself into dominating the press, even PBS shows signs of corporate influence. Do not complain when we do not respect you. You have allowed Jounralism to be kidnapped. We will keepin blogging until she is freed, or at the very least, avenged.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
143. Some news organisations are blending traditional journalism with "outside sources".
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 10:33 AM
Nov 2013

Those who are smart go along with it. Proper traditional news organisations embrace social media and the blogosphere. It's another means to achieve balance and to maintain credibility.

60 Minutes (as of late) doesn't seem to achieve this balance. Take it with a pinch of salt.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
140. I don't understand why this "Dylan Davies" isn't the target of intense scrutiny now?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 08:27 AM
Nov 2013

someone helped him write that book and helped spread the 'misinformation' for several months. He didn't just lie to CBS, he lied to everyone for many months.

tanyev

(42,603 posts)
142. No, Lara, a mistake is when you accidentally hit Reply All or wash a red sock in your whites.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:13 AM
Nov 2013

You royally effed up.

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
144. They "catapult the propaganda" for the right wing. Then, when their lies
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:06 AM
Nov 2013

are exposed, they stonewall for a while, even spending time the following week on the show reading letters praising the story, but ignoring the *already available* news about the lies and the liar that they based the story on; but NO letters questioning the story are read.

Finally, when they can't cover it up any longer, they offer a Emily Latella "Never mind," on a different show (or, in other situations, buried deep in the newspaper), hoping most people won't see it.

By this point, the lie has had time to do its dirty work, so most who swallowed it will dig in their heels and reject any attemot at correcting their error. It has also given 3 craven RW senators an excuse to block judicial appointments.

Mission accomplished.

lanlady

(7,135 posts)
147. She needs to be fired
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:00 PM
Nov 2013

Dan Rather was fired for far less, and he was a real journalist. Lara Logan is not.

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
149. Dan Rather declined to comment on the discredited Benghazi story...
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:29 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:24 PM - Edit history (3)

..when reached by Talking Points Memo on Friday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024004150/


Remember "What's the frequency, Kenneth"?

/

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
152. I understand people make mistakes in good faith
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

the problem I have here is I do NOT believe it was in good faith - they produced PROPAGANDA

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
155. Its simple economics, big business is wasting advertising dollars on MSM that caters to....
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 06:20 PM
Nov 2013

a dwindling Demographic. It does not take a marketing guru to see demographics have changed, if big business wants to capture their market share they need to start catering to to the larger demographic. So companies who own the media like GE, can sell more blenders and Disney can sell more tickets to mouse land. SIMPLE ECONOMICS, who owns the media, how much more do they want to make their product more market friendly to the masses. The Masses dictate sales, end of economics 101 DU style.

Ava Gadro

(36 posts)
163. She was duped imo. What really needs to happen is
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:53 AM
Nov 2013

find out who was behind Dylan Davies. It could get juicy and might destroy some wingnuts.

I can't get behind the firing of Lara Logan without saying Dan Rather's firing was justified. I don't and won't. Logan was duped by a source. Rather was duped by his own producer if I remember correctly. Regardless. CBS needs to do better verification as it seems somebody out there is determined to discredit them. I want to know who.

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