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Omaha Steve

(99,670 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:34 AM Nov 2013

Hyundai to sell hydrogen-powered SUV in 2014

Source: AP-Excite

By TOM KRISHER

DETROIT (AP) - For years, the joke in the auto industry was that a mass-produced car that runs on hydrogen was always a decade away.

That will change next year when Hyundai starts selling a Tucson SUV powered by a hydrogen fuel cell. It will be the first mass-market vehicle of its type to be sold or leased in the U.S.

"These things are now ready for prime time," John Krafcik, Hyundai's North American CEO, said last week. His company plans to announce details of the new Tucson on Wednesday at the Los Angeles Auto Show.

Even as the industry focused on battery-powered and hybrid cars, automakers such as Hyundai, Honda and Toyota kept up research on fuel cells. Now they appear to have conquered obstacles such as high costs, safety concerns and a lack of filling stations. These vehicles could help the companies meet stricter future fuel-economy standards.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20131119/DAA5F1O80.html





In this Sunday, Nov. 16, 2013, file photo, a model poses next to a Hyundai Tucson facelift on display at the Kuala Lumpur International Motor Show in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, In 2014, Hyundai says it will starts selling Tucson SUV powered by a hydrogen fuel cell. It will be the first mass-market vehicle of its type to be sold or leased in the U.S. (AP Photo/Lai Seng Sin, File)

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Hyundai to sell hydrogen-powered SUV in 2014 (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2013 OP
I'm glad to see this and I can't wait to hear more about it. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #1
If anyone can do it, it will be the Koreans davidpdx Nov 2013 #2
Funny, people used to say that about Americans. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #3
The only bad thing is that there's no station to refuel here sakabatou Nov 2013 #4
Here's another way to utilize Hydrogen to power cars solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #5
Great news.... in fact it's been my dream to generate Hydrogen at home from PV cells groundloop Nov 2013 #6
This doesn't change the fact that hydrogen is not a naturally occurring fuel truthisfreedom Nov 2013 #7
Shush you! Javaman Nov 2013 #8
Nuclear Reactors Xolodno Nov 2013 #9
coal plants :D you didn't wish hard enough :D nt littlewolf Nov 2013 #10
I ask this more to be educated than to offer an alternative reflection Nov 2013 #12
Affordability Labrat0116 Nov 2013 #11

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
1. I'm glad to see this and I can't wait to hear more about it.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:00 AM
Nov 2013

Now if we can build some hydrogen power plants, we'll start being energy independent.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
5. Here's another way to utilize Hydrogen to power cars
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:00 AM
Nov 2013


Former Area 51 employee Bob Lazar is interviewed by Visual Effects Supervisor Jon Farhat. In this video, they discuss what H1 (hydrogen) is, how it is created and it's potential in the automotive sector. In addition, Bob show us he has his own particle accelerator which he uses to create 6Li (lithium-6) H (hydride) for H1 storage.

6Li is used to store hydrogen safely and efficiently. It is also one of the key components in making a thermal-nuclear weapon, but by itself is not dangerous. Because of crony capitalism and ignorant politicians, the US government has banned 6Li and the buying and selling of it. However, the making of 6Li H yourself with your own particle accelerator IS NOT!

Bob uses solar panels to power an H1 generator which produces H1 from H2O (water). For the safe and efficient storage of the dangerous H1, 6Li H must be created with a particle accelerator and used for H1 storage in high compression tanks. With the H1 generator, H1 is forced into the 6Li H tanks through the syringe compression process.

Bob is the owner of of United Nuclear Scientific and Switch2Hydrogen. Jon is the owner of ODEMAX and director of this video.

* Engineers and scientists, send errata my way and I will fix it.

Wikipedia pages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen


The electricity is expensive, unless of course solar energy is used:



Italy to Have Solar-Powered Hydrogen Refueling Pumps at Every New Gas Station

http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2010/08/24/acta-hydrogen-refuel-station-italy/

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
6. Great news.... in fact it's been my dream to generate Hydrogen at home from PV cells
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:46 AM
Nov 2013

This is the progress I've been waiting to see for years now. My dream has been to be able to generate hydrogen at home from PV cells, and refuel the car each evening in the comfort of your own garage.

Unfortunately, for the time being anyway, most hydrogen is produced from hydrocarbon sources with CO2 as a byproduct. Still, this is a huge step in the right direction and I hope that the auto industry keeps moving in that direction.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
7. This doesn't change the fact that hydrogen is not a naturally occurring fuel
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:36 AM
Nov 2013

It's a storage medium, and every method of producing it is less efficient than storing the energy used to make it as electric battery power.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
8. Shush you!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:04 AM
Nov 2013

if you are going to be a buzzkill, do it right, okay?

Where and how are they going to generate the hydrogen?

please don't say coal plants, please don't say coal plants, please don't say coal plants...

if I wish hard enough maybe someone won't say coal plants?

reflection

(6,286 posts)
12. I ask this more to be educated than to offer an alternative
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:57 PM
Nov 2013

but I thought you could produce hydrogen from biomass conversion? I distinctly remember my energy systems professor mentioning it in 1991 and the technology has to have come a long way since.

I'm in engineering but in a separate field, so I do confess some ignorance on the subject.

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