someone who know how to defend themselves.

Can't find it on any mainstream news sites though, and I won't post shit like WND here.

(Attacker was shot and killed)

had a happy ending.

... shooting an attacker, I want to know if anybody else got hit?... any wild shots?... what was the background?

I also wonder if a hit in the face is enough provocation for killing the hitter.

I think that shot probably cleaned up the gene pool a bit, but I take no joy in that death.

comes up intending to do you harm, they have you at a BIG disadvantage. You don't know what their intent is. Robbery? Murder for kicks ("we were bored&quot ?
People like this have killed innocent people. They've put others in the ICU. They never even consider consequences of their actions.
The kids from that story got a big lesson in consequences. Maybe they might turn their lives around, so no body else dies. And their intended victim gets to go home to his or her family.

other sites.

One looked 'normal' like a local affiliate of a national news company, but it wouldn't load.

The rest had... questionable language on the site.

that things kids see on the internet, have NO negative impact on their actions in the real world!

That's one thing that sucks about being young: you have to put up with so much crap from your peers. Some people never grow out of it.

Many young people only go so far as bullying and supporting public figures like Ayn Rand. Obviously most young people will never act like these thugs.

Young people have that stereotypical 'invincibility' right? Well, guess what, that extends to their perception of others as well. Many of them are simply unable to connect the dots that if you hit someone in the head hard enough, they can flat-out die.

It's just not a possibility to them.

but similar behavior displayed by an adult would earn them the title of a sociopath.

For most young people it's a temporary thing.

Kids are largely unempathic - and I know about twenty people are going to clasp their pearls and gasp, "My darling is a thoughtful angel!" - maybe so. Maybe they're only that way because they're rewarded for selfless behavior and it makes them feel good. Maybe they grew into it early, whatever, such kids are an exception.

The lack of empathy continues well into early adulthood - lack of empathy and pubescent hormones make for a nasty behavioral cocktail from both genders. Most people do eventually grow into empathic behavior, others at least manage to follow social norms resembling empathy, and some few never do either - these are our sociopaths.

for fun against unsuspecting people puts one far beyond much hope of ever developing empathy later in life.

Not attacking unprovoked is not some nuance of adult behavior, it's one that is probably hard-wired in most people or at least learned on some level pretty early on. Most 5 year olds know it's unacceptable to walk up and pop somebody for no reason. I really can't think of any age where kids do this. Hell, most animals don't do this. It's some nasty pathology and hard to counteract.

growing up which is ridiculous. And, IMO, they should be treated as adults and suffer the consequence thereof for their action(s).

think if one crosses that line it is naive by any thinking that's just a healthy normal kid growing up.

unconsciousness -- as it says in the name of the game -- then you're a sociopath.

Yeah, we're not going to intellectualize this.

It's just a little too simple.

It typically escalates from muggings and armed robberies.

The kids doing these knockouts have leapfrogged over that small-time stuff.

kids growing up phases, and I think most professionals would agree. There is a definite pathology at work ...

individuals.

The hidden post said most of them were black. And that appears to be the case. One cannot note reality if it makes favored ethnic groups look bad?

I see this increasingly with jury results here. I really dislike using the PC trope, but if the Birkenstock fits...

Racism is racism no matter who does it, some seem to only consider it racism if whites do it.

Entertainment media, mostly.

I know it sounds cliched, but it is true.

Just watch the average fight scene in a movie or TV show.

A person gets knocked flat on their ass, out cold, they get up in the next scene, no problem.
Nothing new either.

I see this in the 60's TV westerns my Mom loves to watch.

that Free Republic will treat as gospel truth and use as evidence that the urban ferals are taking over.

and has become a real problem in many cities. Don't ignore it just because you don't like the story.

And I totally agree. Stupid, sensationalistic news stories are more harmful than 'kids today'.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/11/20/controversial-knockout-game-sounds-like-an-urban-myth-blog/

Random attacks are also rare. Living in the United States has never been safer than it is today. Violent crime went up slightly in 2012, but it’s still nearly HALF of what was reported in 1992. Detroit led the nation in murders last year with 411 homicides, but compare that to 1974 when the number was 714. It was 636 murders in the Motor City in 1985. It’s okay to laugh when someone tells you about “declining values.” Maybe they mean numerically.

so feel free to can the "urban myth" nonsense. Or maybe you don't live near a city and don't have to worry about it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teen-knockout-game-continues-harm-innocent-people-article-1.1521185

I'm not saying this never happened but it seems like an isolated thing and the media spreading fear is just what the media does.

Do you have any published numbers? How many times has this actually happened in connection with some kind of sociopathic 'knock out game'? What statistical facts make you think this is a 'growing trend'?

Until then I'll stick with my assessment that this is a combination of isolated violence, urban myth, and media sensationalism.

And you can feel free to BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID.

enough to get your attention?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/brooklyn-rabbi-gang-of-teens-playing-disturbing-game-of-knock-out-the-jew/

And that's just in New York city. But really, feel free to to snicker about it - it does wonders for your position.

claims that there were just 6 "incidents" since 1992. Those 6 were deaths. There have been numerous non-lethal incidents.

snip
He said that in the last two months there have been assaults and three incidents of graffiti, incidents the police have confirmed, Slattery reported.

“I think there have been a total of eight since September, middle of September,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said, referring to the total number of incidents.


I never said it was a national epidemic but if you can't see a trend, that's seriously your problem.

The OP brought up the idea of this being a national trend. Quote: "but youth across the country are calling the unprovoked attacks a "game" that they are "playing." "

I read the entire article you posted. Obviously there is something going on in Brooklyn. That doesn't make it a national trend. You started this exchange with me by responding to my post about this (as a national trend) being an urban myth - quote: "
so feel free to can the "urban myth" nonsense. Or maybe you don't live near a city and don't have to worry about it. " Now you are trying to say you never said it was a national epidemic? Maybe you should be posting this in the regional New York State forum then.

Wouldn't reverse racism be the act of not being racist?

Merriam-Webster

rac·ism noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race

: the belief that some races of people are better than others


Racism is racism no matter what color the perpetrator and I am not white nor even in the us but I know the definition.

That hardly sounds like an epidemic. Definitely not national news worthy.

A lot of the stuff we have trouble with is the same stuff they have in big cities in the UK. They have bad gang problems over there, too. And they have whole areas of council housing that are every bit as dangerous as the bad areas in our big cities. Huge drug problems.

Only they use knives more than guns. Still deadly.

running wild in a city near you. Be afraid.

get killed and posted on youtube, it'll stop. Shows what a violent and vicious culture we have. Darwinism at it's best in amerika. Only the strongest (and the richest) will survive.

When it was cool to be peaceful and loving.
But as I have posted before, our culture has been conditioned from cradle to grave to be violent.

Strangers,mostly late high school,early college youth, would smile,pass out flowers to those they would see sitting in parks--especially those that appeared lonely or sad. Many pics of that area would show a senior looking so very confused that they were given a flower(for free) and not being abused by younger members of society.

Is it a couple of assholes in a couple of cities? Or is it a common occurrence?

I'm in a cube, and I can't access most of those sites, but many of the headlines are vague and seemingly redundant.

How widespread is this?

but it is growing somewhat.

I've not heard of it happening here in Seattle anyway.

One of the incidents was reported in Pittsburgh in 2012. Since then I suspect that we've had more local cases of people suffering fatal falls in their bathrooms.

If it's actually a growing problem, then by all means we should address it, but if it's a handful of assholes spread throughout the entire national landscape, well, I can't see it as the national hot-button crisis that the news story indicates.

And the worst part is, copy-cat driven events BECAUSE of the coverage.

Got to go for sensationalism, after all.

So of course, it's going to outrank the regular series of murders we run into every day. Much more interesting to shake our collective fist about how useless and awful this new generation is. Just like the last generation, the one before it, etc

Durned whippersnappers!

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The dangerous "knockout" attacks on strangers in large U.S. cities are leading to arrests, more officers flooding the streets and more warnings for vigilance among an unsuspecting public.

Hoodlums have dubbed the violent practice as the 'Knockout Game,' where teens try to randomly knock out strangers with one punch.

The attacks have raised concerns across the country. Recent attacks have occurred in New York, New Haven, Conn., Washington, D.C. and suburban Philadelphia. But the violent attacks go back several years. In 2011, St. Louis, Mo. had a rash of incidents, one of which led to the killing of a Vietnamese immigrant.

The trend may have hit the west coast with an attack Tuesday on a man in downtown San Diego, according to local news stations.

Some of the assaults are recorded and posted on social media by the attackers.

In New York, where there have been seven incidents in the last month, police arrested four suspects Friday in Brooklyn, NBC News reports.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/22/knockout-game-arrests/3676649/

They start their political careers as Repukes

Ten years ago in Cincinnati it was referred to as "polar bear hunting". Same exact "game"...if you want to call it a game. I call it blatant racism.

Or just lazy reporting that seizes on "trends"? Is the pattern of random violence against strangers increasing in frequency, or are we just hearing about it more often because of things that go viral?

by a pack all beating at once with pipes, etc.

I posted on another thread where groups (or group) of young black males were "wilding" on people in the gay community of Hillcrest (San Diego usa) back when I was there for several years. They finally killed a guy, that happened to be straight, on the 35th time it happened and that was the first time it made the papers. there were warnings on poles, etc. in hillcrest.

Here is an old article:

Since June, it has happened an alarming 50 times, mostly along University Avenue in North Park and Hillcrest. Young black men estimated to be between ages 18 and 22 have been attacking an array of white victims, all after dark.

All but four victims have been men and many have been gay. But, according to police, straight military men have also been beaten. So have husbands walking with wives. Boyfriends with girlfriends. Women by themselves.

The beatings come from pipes, baseball bats, sticks, hands and feet.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-12-12/local/me-56_1_north-park

If someone were pointing out attackers as white or latino like me would it be racist? Did you read the link I posted, what race should I say?

This is the other thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4063544

You seem to be saying that if attackers are of a certain race it should not be pointed out?

English is not my first language but it seems to be you that has a problem understanding the definition of racist.

Merriam-Webster

racist noun

a person who believes that one race should control all others <after the passage of the 13th Amendment to the Constitution, racists still used violence and intimidation to prevent African-Americans from enjoying their new constitutional rights>

Just what are you blathering about with racist? It seems the US school system IS as bad as people say. It's not racism at all, but over blown political correctness on your part.

If it were all white people would you be foaming at the mouth. I'm not white, I have no guilt in pointing out ANY race. Jeez.

Ah, you are in CA. Political correctness gone wild...........and the funny part I experienced more racism there than anywhere else in the US. Southern cal, raging hypocrites.

I bet they wouldn't do
That to
Him.

when you see unsavory types coming your way - I mean, over a period of time living amongst them, in close quarters. Mind you, I mean of any race or gender.

guys approach me on my street as I was walking to the bus stop around 6 am. They kept saying "come here. I want to ask you something." I took one look at their wife-beater shirts, pants at their mid-thigh, and I knew I wanted nothing to do with them. I kept walking.
I can't wait till I move out of this crappy neighborhood.

man oh man.

Between him and the Kardashian Trio

Its a sport to post when any of the four have a hangnail and then proceed to deride them

Stress is ramping up inexorably in all aspects of life, pretty much everywhere around the world. This is part of the result. Selye called it the General Adaptation Syndrome.

We can expect it to keep getting worse as the world's social, economic and environmental conditions continue to deteriorate beyond the range of human psychological tolerance.

where are you when we need you most?

I was walking home with my room mate, hands full of grocery bags, when someone hit me from behind with a 2 by 4

Fortunately either because they didn't hit very hard or my blubber provided a defense, I was more angry then mad. I thought i was being mugged so I turned around to protect my wallet and face my attacker.

By then a group of young men were already running away.

Police caught one of them later. And yes apparently the motive was this "game"

So yes it happens. How often I can't say. But it does happen. I live in St. Louis so I can also say that it is widespread.

These are isolated incidents that right-wing sites like Drudge have been pushing pretty heavily.

There is plenty of violent crime going on all over the country, much of it directed against young black people. But god forbid a few incidents like this happen, suddenly it becomes national news. And there are plenty of racists and bigots out there who are more than willing to spread these stories, creating almost a sense of paranoia. All you have to do is read the comments on any of these articles.

What the hell is wrong with people? My gosh! Haha. Very funny. Let's just be REALLY stupid. Bring down the hammer. Put them on a chain gang.

Imagine the nexus of this and Stand Your Ground laws. But the stupid thugs never seem to attack the stupid thugs, only the innocent people minding their own business.

" . . . . though it's still readily apparent when employed."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Black_brute

Just wondering at what point it's OK to call this a disturbing trend?

And I don't think this kind of behavior should ever just be dismissed.

Kind of like the people on motorbikes that run in packs and jam up the freeways. So dangerous in so many ways - to everyone.

I fear that unfortunately there will be shot/killed precious snowflakes partaking in the "game" here in Florida. Careful, predators...you never know. Parents, mind your kids.