Pentagon Urges China to Back Off No-Fly Zone
Source: military.com
The Pentagon's leadership on Wednesday offered a possible way for China to defuse the crisis over airspace control that has led both sides to flex their military might in the East China Sea.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the U.S. was looking at "mechanisms" to avoid a confrontation over China's declaration of an Air Defense Identification Zone over wide swaths of the East China Sea to include uninhabited islands claimed by Japan and China.
One of those mechanisms might be for China to make a distinction between aircraft bound for China intending to enter Chinese sovereign airspace and those intending to fly through international air space included in the ADIZ to other destinations, said Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
China has demanded that all aircraft, both military and commercial, file flight plans and identify themselves in the ADIZ. Dempsey said U.S. concerns might be eased if the Chinese limited their demands to aircraft bound for China, which already must file flight plans.
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Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)On Tuesday, the South Korean navy launched an air and sea military exercise in the area that China recently claimed as part of its East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ).
On Wednesday, the Korea Joongang Daily reported that, The Korean Navy yesterday launched a joint sea and air military drill near the waters surrounding Ieodo Rock. The report said the drill consisted of two P-3C maritime patrol aircraft as well as one of the ROK Navys three Aegis destroyers.
The destroyer reportedly anchored around 200 meters from Ieodo, which both South Korea and China claim but Seoul administers. The Korea Joongang Daily report also said that the two P-3Cs, which are used in anti-submarine operations as well as for maritime surveillance, crossed into Japans ADIZ with the prior approval of Tokyo.
This fact suggests that South Korea and Japan are boosting their cooperation in the wake of China unilaterally declaring the East China Sea ADIZ two weekends ago. Seoul and Tokyo have long been at odds over their own territorial dispute as well as Prime Minister Shinzo Abes comments about Japans actions in the region during the first half of the 20th Century.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/12/south-korea-conducts-military-drill-in-chinas-adiz/
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)presence there to deter the Chinese.
Thats it. Just antagonize the hell out of em will solve the problem.
penultimate
(1,110 posts)the one antagonizing its neighbors?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)As residents of a hard-hit Philippine town were being guided onto a cargo plane during the height of the post-typhoon aid effort, one individual refused to be ushered in.
He was wearing tattered clothes but, suspiciously, had a brand-new camera. And he was using it to snap photos not of the evacuees he was with, but of the US military aircraft on the runway.
US and allied officials concluded that he was a spy for China.
Military officers on the ground took the reported spy games in stride. I dont think theres a lot they dont know about our capabilities, says Lt. Col. Rod Legowski, operations officer for the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Brigade. Taking pictures isnt going to do them that much good.
But the episode offers a fascinating window into the high-stakes US-China chess match taking place in the region. As the Pentagon forges ahead with its strategic shift toward Asia, the Philippines is likely to be a key link in US national security efforts in the region, according to a Congressional Research Service (CRS) report.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/2013/1204/US-China-spy-games-in-storm-hit-Philippines-Pacific-power-play-simmers.-video?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily&utm_campaign=20131204_Newsletter%3ADaily_Sailthru&cmpid=ema%3Anws%3ADaily%2520Newsletter%2520%2812-04-2013%29
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Chinas military imposed a destabilizing air defense zone over the East China Sea without consulting the United States, and top Pentagon leaders said Wednesday there have been no contacts with their Chinese counterparts since the zone was set up Nov. 23.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a press conference at the Pentagon that the Chinese air zone is destabilizing the region.
However, both leaders declined to urge China to roll back the air defense identification zone, or ADIZ, as Japans government has demanded of the Chinese.
The lack of U.S.-China consultation and communication highlights what observers say is a failure of three decades of exchanges aimed at building trust between the two militaries.
I have not spoken to my Chinese counterpart. Ive spoken to our allies about the Chinese ADIZ, Hagel said.
Dempsey said he attempted to contact the Peoples Liberation Army chief of staff, Gen. Fang Fenghui.
I have actually reached out to the schedulers to connect me with my Chinese counterpart, Dempsey said. I suspect itll occur following the vice presidents visit.
Vice President Joe Biden met with top Chinese leaders in Beijing on Wednesday, including Chinese President Xi Jinping, to discuss the air defense zone.
http://freebeacon.com/pentagon-china-failed-to-consult-before-imposing-air-defense-zone/
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Giving no ground, Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. Vice President Joe Biden traded strong arguments Wednesday over Chinas contentious new air defense zone, with no indication of progress toward defusing a situation that is raising anxieties across Asia and beyond.
Though Biden made clear the deep concern of the U.S. and other countries during the 5½ hours of talks themselves highly unusual for an American vice president and Chinese president Xi vigorously made his case, too, for Chinas declaration of new rules concerning a strip of airspace more than 600 miles long above disputed islands in the East China Sea.
The U.S. worries that Chinas demand that pilots entering the airspace file flight plans with Beijing could lead to an accident or a confrontation spiraling dangerously out of control. Now it is up to the Chinese to take steps to lower tensions, and its a question of behavior and action, said a U.S. official, who briefed reporters on the private talks.
The official was not authorized to be quoted by name and spoke only on condition of anonymity.
Though Biden expressed no disappointment in public remarks, the outcome of his visit was not what the U.S. might have hoped for.
http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20131204/NEWS/312040028/China-gives-no-ground-Biden-air-zone-dispute
Celefin
(532 posts)just before going into important talks like that.
Remarks that he must have known would be taken as incitement to revolution by Chinese leaders really aren't helpful when you want to discuss matters like this with those leaders the very next day.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Also, US-based multinationals, as well as their concubines in government and media. Them vs the MIC. Man oh man; Talk about a wedge issue!
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)The Cold War was a good thing for certain interests.
Jessy169
(602 posts)IMO, most likely. Fear-mongering and confrontation have their uses. There must be a lot of oil (potentially) involved, as nothing else would justify the energy and expense required to stage this event.
Moral of the story: Wherever you see armed conflict or threat of armed conflict in the world these days, chances are, oil/fossil fuel energy is significantly involved.