Prosecutor: No charges to be filed against anyone in Jameis Winston sex assault investigation
Source: Associated Press
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -
UPDATE: A prosecutor says Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston will not be charged in a sexual assault case.
State Attorney Willie Meggs made the announcement Thursday. The 19-year-old Heisman Trophy candidate was accused of raping a female student in December last year, but Meggs says there is not enough evidence for anyone to be charged in the case.
"We could not meet that burden," Meggs said.
The Tallahassee Police Department turned the case over to Meggs on Nov. 12 after several media inquiries. Meggs interviewed the accuser Nov. 21.
The prosecutor says Winston's DNA matched a sample found in the woman's underwear. But Winston's lawyer, Tim Jansen, has said that was expected and doesn't prove guilt.
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/state/legal-fate-of-fsu-quarterback-jameis-winston-to-be-answered#ixzz2md5cIqoX
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/state/legal-fate-of-fsu-quarterback-jameis-winston-to-be-answered
Apparently the accuser could not remember where the incident took place.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)A second person's DNA was also found, which would have presented enormous complications to any prosecution.
niyad
(113,306 posts)reports I have read.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Another DNA sample was found on the accuser's shorts, Meggs said, but he wouldn't say who it to.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/05/justice/florida-state-quarterback-investigation/
[link:http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/05/justice/florida-state-quarterback-investigation/|]
alp227
(32,025 posts)Why did the police wait nearly a year to turn this case over to the state attorney? Did that detective really intimidate the accuesr? The police wanted this to happen. They don't want the public to realize a sports hero is also a rapist.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)The accuser barely remembers anything except for being dropped off the next morning. Apparently other DNA was found as well.
Jameis Winston claims the sex was consensual.
People do stuff all the time when they're drunk that they don't remember and regret later. I this case the cops decided they could not prove rape, only that she had had sex that she had no clear recollection of.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)I've been told it's not a standard test usually performed, and it has a short window of time in which it can be detected in ones blood. In a rape case I'm not sure if they test for it by default or not.
Her statements about being "foggy" in her memory sound similar to a situation I know of where it turned out a woman's drink had been"spiked" with GHB.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)that has no meaning here. The sex was consensual, evidently.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm not sure if your speaking sarcastically, or if you literally don't know what GHB is. GHB stands for gamma-hydroxybutyric acid. It's one of the substances which has been referred to as the "date rape drug" in the media. It causes symptoms similar to those which she appears to have described in her initial report. Which was why I was wondering here if she'd been tested for its presence. Well, that combined with the fact that her blood alcohol was only .04, which is around the equivalent of one drink for a 100 pound person. Which is by no means high enough to have caused her to be so disoriented alone.
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Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)niyad
(113,306 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)for him, but it sure doesn't sound like it was "consensual" for HER. Of course, what he thought may be all you care about and all that's important, right? As long as the man thinks it's consensual, then that makes it so?
madville
(7,410 posts)Negative, Page 16 of the 86 page file released today, reading through it now.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)disrespectful - about what one would expect from a misogynist.
Have you really never heard of "Date Rape" drugs?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)That is my point.
Yes, there is a drug called GHB.
Yes it is bad.
Yes it is used to rape women.
BUT EVIDENTLY it is not a factor in THIS CASE.
niyad
(113,306 posts)a drug might have been used. but, so much easier to claim it was consensual, isn't it? that way, we don't have to look at the disgusting behaviour of a footballer, who, at the VERY least, had sex with a nearly unconscious woman. what a great guy he is.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)The accuser's blood-alcohol level when taken was 0.04%, which Meggs said was "not very high." He further said investigators extrapolated the data to determine that her BAC was about 0.1%, slightly over the legal limit to drive, at the time of the incident.
"We found no evidence of any drugs of any sort in her blood system." he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/05/justice/florida-state-quarterback-investigation/?c=&page=2
niyad
(113,306 posts)anything they said.
and, an "extrapolated" bac of "about 0.1 does not generally indicate a blackout-level state of intoxication.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Another case of a woman that had too much to drink and a man taking advantage of her condition, perhaps being pretty drunk himself. Cases that go to state of mind are next to impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt so it always leaves women very vulnerable and easy prey when not exercising enough self-control with alcohol. But Jameis Winston failed to show self-control of a more ugly nature himself given his superior strength and under age drinking. There are no winners here but only one loser and that was the young woman where Winston took advantage of her drunken condition. By not being charged does not let Winston off the hook. Will he show remorse? I'm not holding my breath.
niyad
(113,306 posts)against the victim.
niyad
(113,306 posts)on saturday? the vote? did not realize there were "time constraints" in such an investigation (the "time constraints" was from the cnn article cited with reference to the second person's dna)
I do hope that the fact that meegs is an fsu alum in no way influenced his investigation.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)He was either getting political pressure to move on this, or felt personally that he wanted to dispense with it before the Heismann voting.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)and I say, IF, then this does not look good at all for the girl.
They are on pages 63-64 of the Tallahassee PD files released today.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Maybe Jameis did rape her. Not enough evidence to prove that. Maybe he didn't. Still not enough evidence. I am not a Jameis fan at all but there wasn't enough evidence to prove rape. They should make testing for GhB standard in rape kits, because that would change everything. However, given the fact that there was another man's DNA present adds extra levels of difficulty of proving Jameis did anything other than have consensual sex with the girl.
Meggs seems like a scumbag though, all the smiling and tongue in cheek comments about vindication are gross.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)That this is a legal decision based on he doesn't believe he can prove Mr. Winston guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and not due to his status as a football star.