getting China to get NK to stop these abuses (yeah, right).

is to make the world miss Adolf Hitler.

...except that Pol Pot, thank God, never got hold of a nuke.

The kind of place that the Teapublicans and their religious allies could really feel at home...providing they were in charge!!!

Then the world might care.

Probably not, as long as the oil kept putting money in the right pockets.

then we would invade them for "human rights violations".

Most estimates say that an all out war with North Korea would lead to the utter vaporization of Seoul, a city of nearly 10 million people, in under two hours...from artillery strikes alone.

North Korea could have streets paved with gold and pure crude pouring out of every mountaintop and we still wouldn't invade. Because North Korea can't sustain a war over the long term, there is little question that we would eventually beat them, but the amount of damage they can do over the short term is almost incomprehensible. By some estimates, a seven day war with North Korea could generate a civilian death toll nearly equal to the civilian death toll from ALL of World War 2. The U.S. military is well suited to winning long, drawn out wars, but we simply don't have the blitzkrieg abilities that would be needed to secure NK fast enough to head off the catastrophic losses they can inflict.

Jabba the Kim seems to be even worse than his daddy Yoda. . .which seemed almost impossible.

other than apply all diplomatic and economic pressure on the Chinese to get them to do something. They're the only ones that have some semblance of influence over North Korea, though it's debatable how much even they have. It's certainly greater than anything we or South Korea can do.

The last thing we need is any kind of war on the Korean peninsula. Considering the dense population of Seoul, even an attack with conventional weapons by North Korea would kill hundreds of thousands of people.

beaten to death, and then Dig your own grave?

just sayin'

But the content is consistant with reports from those who have managed to escape. There are a few documentaries and books out there from survivors. The camps are basically death camps. There is a video about Camp 14 that is just heart-breaking.

And how the Chinese government can show any sort of support for them is beyond my comprehension. They all care so little about human life. It's probably one of the most disturbing places on Earth these days - and that's saying a lot.

Men, women, children.... it's sad. Those who successfully make it out do so knowing that their family left in the camps will likely be killed.

There is no known percentage in terms of the number sent back who die, but I'd wager to guess it is a pretty high number. China is part and party to the massacre of thousands of people each year by sending refugees back.

I read a white paper about North Korea cover to cover and it included some descriptions of what people went through, but also a lot of numbers. I have also attended lectures given by North Korean refugees who tell their stories and it is heartbreaking.

Liberty in North Korea is the organization to join if you want to help people out. They raise money to smuggle people out of North Korea via either Thailand or Vietnam and also bring awareness to the plight of North Korean refugees.

http://www.libertyinnorthkorea.org/

Police state
Profound hunger
Standard of living nonexistent
Political "re-education" slavery camps


what a f*****g joke of a country.

Half a year ago North Korea mustered for an all-out war and then... nothing. I wonder how they explained this to their citizens.

"Our dear comrade Kim Jong Un has, in his infinite wisdom and graciousness, decided to let the wrong Korea, our mortal enemies, those lackeys of american aggression, live to see another day. But the People's Army of North Korea totally could have steamrolled them in a glorious victory without any negative consequences. Totally."

This stuff is fodder for dystopia writers. The human mind can't make this stuff up.

if someone could figure out a way China could MAKE MONEY from North Korea by removing the loon government, they would probably go for it.

Keeping the North Korean regime afloat does more for us than China. For China, NK is a mild irritant to us and South Korea. For us, it's an excuse to keep up our massive military.

Maybe if that Iran deal firms up, China pull the plug and then say, "Now why does the US need a military bigger than every other countries combined?"