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rootProbiscus

(38 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:50 PM Dec 2013

Telstra's data 'vacuum' - records and store ALL conversations & data

Source: The Age

Australia's leading telecommunications company, Telstra, has installed highly advanced surveillance systems to "vacuum" the telephone calls, texts, social media messages and internet metadata of millions of Australians so that information can be filtered and given to intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
The Australian government's electronic espionage agency, the Australian Signals Directorate, is using the same technology to harvest data flows carried by undersea fibre-optic cables in and out of Australia.
Gigamon's hardware enables telecommunications and IT network administrators to track, inspect and analyse all data flows undetected without affecting the performance of networks.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstras-data-vacuum-20131205-2yucb.html



Note the "given to intelligence and law enforcement agencies" with no qualifiers regarding countries - 100% to the NSA
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blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
1. Huh, and Australia didn't even have a 9/11.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 07:53 PM
Dec 2013
They don't even bother to conceal their preconceived Agenda anymore, right?
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
2. Let's have a worldwide protest day.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:31 PM
Dec 2013

Every phone call, text or e mail should have a mention of bombs, attacks, terrorists, plots and Al Qaeda.

That should overload their nosy asses!

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
3. Interesting idea
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:38 PM
Dec 2013

But it might take more than one day. We can throw on a few key words in every call and email for as long as they keep on spying, but I'm not sure how we would know if they ever really stop.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. I have just assumed "they" are sucking up all info. all the time.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:22 PM
Dec 2013

and all I can do is try to minimize the # of nosy sites I am on.
No Facebook, rarely Twitter, etc.
Also safe to assume there are many more people proving interesting to the nosy ones.

The snooping govs and agencies will be the victim of various kinds of blow back, which shall be quite interesting to see.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
4. Just goes to show the ubiquitous power of $$$
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:39 PM
Dec 2013

If any of the tech personnel had any ethical sense, these systems would not exist. But since there's always someone willing to sell their soul for $$$, this will not end.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
9. It seems like the same thing as the USA. Metadata is available to the government without a warrant,
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:16 PM
Dec 2013

which SCOTUS ruled legal in 1979 and a warrant needed for any other information. This article seems like a bunch of hype. It clearly states in the article the information is "filtered and given to the government". I guess the big question is what are the "filter" parameters and how safe does the company keep the info? The article keeps stating the information is all vacuumed up, but that's been the case since the telephone has been around. Phone companies regularly kept metadata stored for a certain length of time. I think it was three or five years. It doesn't sound like they're keeping the content of calls or the content of emails as it stated only the topic header was kept. I guess like here they only record the calls themselves if a warrant is issued.
I wonder if the filters are looking for words or word clusters that relate to illegal activity. The filter parameters need to be reviewed by sources outside the government, like a consumer watchdog agency, to make sure there is a proven need or purpose for the parameters.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
12. Hmmm.....I wonder if the laws are different in Australia. The diagram clearly states that the gov't
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 05:18 PM
Dec 2013

needs a warrant to obtain the content of the call or email. I wonder if Australia has a law that allows the Government to get recordings of past calls? With out system (which is different from Australia's) the calls are supposedly only stored or listened to AFTER a warrant is received. I would not be okay with the government getting a warrant and then going back to conversations that I had in the past.
If that's not the case, I wonder why the telecom companies keep the recordings anyway. I'm not okay with corporate America having access to all my info. Just because they aren't the government doesn't make it okay. I also wonder who verifies that the data has been deleted.

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
11. The video at the link is the calmest discussion of a fascist surveillance state
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 06:58 AM
Dec 2013

that I've ever seen. It's weird.

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