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Omaha Steve

(99,707 posts)
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 01:35 PM Dec 2013

UPS backlog means missing Christmas gifts; Amazon responds

Source: CNN

Santa wasn't the only one racing against the clock to get packages to homes Tuesday night. UPS was too.

But the company's backlog left some Americans with gifts missing from under the Christmas tree Wednesday morning.
"We're terribly sorry," spokeswoman Natalie Black told CNN.

In a statement, the company explained that "the volume of air packages in our system exceeded the capacity of our network immediately preceding Christmas so some shipments were delayed."


FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/25/us/ups-delays/

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UPS backlog means missing Christmas gifts; Amazon responds (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2013 OP
But private enterprise is always better than government at getting things done. Shrike47 Dec 2013 #1
+1 freshwest Dec 2013 #9
No one can control the weather, including the USPS. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #24
The post office messed up, too? Link, please. antiquie Dec 2013 #26
The USPS does not operate a fleet of planes - they use UPS and FEDEX among others. hack89 Dec 2013 #29
In my case they did mess up marshall Dec 2013 #39
So sorry for your experience antiquie Dec 2013 #41
The USPS is absolutely dependent on private enterprise to move the mail hack89 Dec 2013 #31
I had UPS make deliveries to my house using Budget Rental trucks. alphafemale Dec 2013 #2
We have bicycle UPS deliverers here Retrograde Dec 2013 #14
Makes sense in densely packed urban areas where parking is scarce. Gormy Cuss Dec 2013 #15
...and then they subcontract it back to the Postal Service Oscarmonster13 Dec 2013 #3
The post office deserves kudos, and do you for showing them appreciation these days. I love 'em. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #10
I like how Amazon is stepping up to reimburse customers for the free shipping DJ13 Dec 2013 #4
This Was A Calculated Business Decision DallasNE Dec 2013 #5
exactly Enrique Dec 2013 #21
The USPS was hustling a lot of packages for both... Historic NY Dec 2013 #6
I LOVE the USPS! liberalmuse Dec 2013 #30
Too many promises re last minute delivery. oldandhappy Dec 2013 #7
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IADEMO2004 Dec 2013 #27
Waiting until the last minute is a crap shoot. Mz Pip Dec 2013 #34
Couldn't Agree More RobinA Dec 2013 #36
That is not actually the problem of the USPS, UPS, or FedEx RC Dec 2013 #8
And the shopper! SoapBox Dec 2013 #13
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IADEMO2004 Dec 2013 #28
If the Post Office had this backlog, the Right Wing would be calling to privatize it. CanonRay Dec 2013 #11
USPS priority mail is a hell of a lot cheaper than UPS! Omaha Steve Dec 2013 #16
Persons on QVC and HSN sites are having a meltdown. SoapBox Dec 2013 #12
Anyone who shops off those scam shows customerserviceguy Dec 2013 #32
Blame UPS' top executive management brentspeak Dec 2013 #17
Bad management period zglmoo Dec 2013 #18
They used to deliver stuff Retrograde Dec 2013 #23
I got a UPS delivery Tuesday of packages not due till Friday csziggy Dec 2013 #19
I had a non-gift purchase miss the 2-day delivery date and I got a free gift card... tridim Dec 2013 #20
I received 3 separate UPS deliveries on he 24h Coyote_Bandit Dec 2013 #22
Did they also have a USPS barcode on the? GobBluth Dec 2013 #35
(UPS stockholder with some insight)UPS has employees..FedEx not so much underpants Dec 2013 #25
UPS RobinA Dec 2013 #38
UPS blames three conditions, only one is blameable Tab Dec 2013 #33
I feel sorry for them. tblue Dec 2013 #37
I just don't see how FedEx and UPS could have foreseen inclement weather in December LanternWaste Dec 2013 #40
Amazon gave me two $20 gift cards to make up for not getting 2 orders by Christmas Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #42

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
1. But private enterprise is always better than government at getting things done.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 01:44 PM
Dec 2013


I hope the UPS people have a good Christmas. They are a very hardworking bunch. (this comment is not sarcasm. The ones I have seen work really hard.)
 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
26. The post office messed up, too? Link, please.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:55 AM
Dec 2013

I missed that story and I thought they had planned...

hack89

(39,171 posts)
29. The USPS does not operate a fleet of planes - they use UPS and FEDEX among others.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 12:40 PM
Dec 2013

Weather is the root cause of this mess - remember those massive ice storms a couple of weeks ago?

marshall

(6,665 posts)
39. In my case they did mess up
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

I ordered a gift for my son on December 11, Jura shipped out by USPS on December 13, Anne Amazon reports it is expected to arrive sometime between January 8 and 24. I have no idea why it is taking so long to be delivered. Other things I ordered came promptly. Are they bringing it by mule?

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
41. So sorry for your experience
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 11:10 AM
Dec 2013

and I hope your son was not heartbroken.

Unless you chose surface mail and not Amazon's usual UPS, there is no excuse, and I am disappointed as all of USPS knew how important top service would be this season.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
31. The USPS is absolutely dependent on private enterprise to move the mail
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

All long haul movement of mail, whether by truck or air, is done by private contractors. Both UPS and FEDEX have USPS contracts.

Retrograde

(10,153 posts)
14. We have bicycle UPS deliverers here
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 05:11 PM
Dec 2013

SF Bay Area: they have little carts they pull around behind their bikes. I only see them in December.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
15. Makes sense in densely packed urban areas where parking is scarce.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 05:21 PM
Dec 2013

Should probably be used in many snow-free cities.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
3. ...and then they subcontract it back to the Postal Service
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 01:49 PM
Dec 2013

Both fed Ex and UPS have done this...no way to tell how things are actually shipping until they don't show up.

I was on the phone for 20 minutes yesterday tracking a missing package through Fed Ex...the log said there was "no such address" after I just saw the fed ex truck deliver to the people across the street. Turns out they had subcontracted it back to the Postal service, and since I live in a rural area...street addresses are non deliverable, and I didn't use my PO box because I thought it was supposed to ship via UPS or Fed Ex.
Thank goodness I was able to call our local main post office...and they actually found it in the pile and pulled it out for me. I baked them all cookies before I went down to get it. They deserved the extra boost for being there so late on Cmas Eve...

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
5. This Was A Calculated Business Decision
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 01:52 PM
Dec 2013

This year didn't represent a big surge in online shopping. It just continued the upward trend. As a result this is no surprise so UPS made a business decision not to expand capacity to handle a peak week of business. Expanding capacity also would have required hiring and training temporary workers so UPS rolled the dice and concluded a little bad publicity was more than offset by the cost savings of not expanding capacity to meet projected demand. These kind of cold-hearted business decisions are made all of the time.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
21. exactly
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:44 AM
Dec 2013

and on the part of Amazon as well. And to be honest, on the part of the consumer as well when they decide to buy online.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
6. The USPS was hustling a lot of packages for both...
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 02:02 PM
Dec 2013

FedEX & UPS. They also worked with Amazon this year. Accordingly they according to my sr. carrier cousin it was a protfitable venture for them. This year was the first he was home before 7:30-8pm Christmas Eve dinner. I have seen carriers out late this year 9pm making deliveries. The big guys like to think they can make it w/o the Postal Service and thats a myth...

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
30. I LOVE the USPS!
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 12:54 PM
Dec 2013

I've mailed over 400 packages in the past couple years, and not a single one was lost. One was diverted for a week, but I could still track it. Only 2 breakages out of all those that could have been prevented had I packed better. And I got a package my friend mailed a few days ago on Christmas Eve. Love, love, love them!

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
7. Too many promises re last minute delivery.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

I respect how hard people work to deliver. Used to work at a post office and we stood on our heads to get stuff out for Christmas. But really people, December 25, 2014 is coming. Do not wait until the last minute.

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
34. Waiting until the last minute is a crap shoot.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013

Seems most of these fiascos could be avoided by shopping a couple of weeks sooner. Seems kind of dicey to wait until the last minute then throw a hissy fit when the package doesn't get there on time.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
36. Couldn't Agree More
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:49 AM
Dec 2013

I see no reason why UPS, USPS, Fed Ex or Amazon should apologize for anything. You shop at the last minute you takes your chances. And I say that as someone who has Christmas shopped almost entirely online for at least 6 years.

I've seen all these companies do their darnedest to get Christmas delivered. Shit happens - weather, last minute business surges... People are getting too used to instant everything saving them from having to actually plan.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
8. That is not actually the problem of the USPS, UPS, or FedEx
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 03:10 PM
Dec 2013

The problem is with the shipper.
The solution is to Ship earlier.

CanonRay

(14,113 posts)
11. If the Post Office had this backlog, the Right Wing would be calling to privatize it.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:29 PM
Dec 2013

Haven't heard a peep from the usual Idiocy Corp

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
12. Persons on QVC and HSN sites are having a meltdown.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:30 PM
Dec 2013

Some of us call them "One Post Wonders". They ordered minutes before Christmas and now are out of their minds yelling, screaming and RANTING.

In some small amount of fairness, both channels did heavy promotion about getting stuff to you by the 24th...guess they didn't take full account of the shippers being swamped (UPS truck, 2nd one yesterday, went through the neighborhood about 9PM last night).

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
17. Blame UPS' top executive management
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 09:49 PM
Dec 2013

Who do nothing but devise ways to make life hell for their employees rather than to efficiently run a business.

And these are the people the right wing wants to have take over the USPS? No thanks.

zglmoo

(9 posts)
18. Bad management period
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:58 PM
Dec 2013

Almost everyone in ups management couldn't deliver a package if they had to. You can not run a monster like Ups if you don't know the basic ins and outs of its business. All they can do is figure dividends and it showed this Christmas. Let the a Teamsters run there operation and profits will double.

Retrograde

(10,153 posts)
23. They used to deliver stuff
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:32 AM
Dec 2013

My sister, now retired, worked in UPS management, and every December she had to put on the browns and deliver packages.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
19. I got a UPS delivery Tuesday of packages not due till Friday
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 03:09 AM
Dec 2013

I ordered the parts for my new computer last Friday and the scheduled delivery date was December 27. So I was surprised when a UPS truck pulled in on the 24th and the driver carried my packages to the door.

Maybe some parts of the UPS system are behind, but not the route from Memphis, Tennessee to my door in Florida!

tridim

(45,358 posts)
20. I had a non-gift purchase miss the 2-day delivery date and I got a free gift card...
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:23 AM
Dec 2013

worth more than my entire purchase. I didn't even ask.

I'm finding that Amazon Prime and UPS's general incompetence is a good way to get free stuff.

Coyote_Bandit

(6,783 posts)
22. I received 3 separate UPS deliveries on he 24h
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:42 AM
Dec 2013

Seems like maybe it would have been more efficient to make a single delivery of 3 packages. Just a thought.

GobBluth

(109 posts)
35. Did they also have a USPS barcode on the?
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:18 PM
Dec 2013

I'm a rural carrier, I deliver quite a few parcels for UPS. I have no idea how they decide what to use us for and what to use their own employees for. I see many parcels that I know I didn't drop off. Yet UPS will have me deliver to the same stop. Luckily they get to run, lol, I would be fired if I did and hurt myself in the process.

underpants

(182,877 posts)
25. (UPS stockholder with some insight)UPS has employees..FedEx not so much
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dec 2013

This delivery problem was news to me. I just googled it and it is bad news but the stock has only gone down LESS than a 1/5 of a point ---- $104 (it was $70 last year )

FedEx, especially the drivers, are NOT EMPLOYEES- they are contracted hourly employees. No health bennies, no Soc.Sec. or unemployment payments by FedEx ...here is your money you are on your own. Consider that when you have a choice to use the -> or BROWN.

That being said UPS managers are usually fully on deck for Christmas. I know someone who works for UPS in an office setting and they are cleared to drive trucks or work on the brown trucks if need be.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
38. UPS
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:58 AM
Dec 2013

Should be getting kudos here. They hire people and they pay some gold plated bennies. They are also union. All is not perfect, of course, but when it comes to employment they are the anti-Walmart.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
33. UPS blames three conditions, only one is blameable
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 05:39 PM
Dec 2013
Asked why the company underestimated the volume of air packages it would receive, Black noted that previous severe weather in the Dallas area had already created a backlog. Then came "excess holiday volume" during a compressed time frame, since the period between Thanksgiving and Christmas was shorter than usual this year.

Add to that the consumer trend of doing more shopping online, she said.


I'll accept the unusually bad weather in Dallas Fort-Worth. The trend of more people shopping online should not be a surprise to anyone - it's in the news every year and should be accounted for. As for the shortened period between Thanksgiving and Christmas, you could give me a calendar of the next twenty years and I could tell you the exact interlude duration between the two holidays for each year, and so that shouldn't be a surprise for them. FedEx and USPS had the very same time frame and the very same overall increase of deliveries.

The only thing I can have them justify blaming it on is the weather. Or maybe their business model just isn't as robust as FedEx or USPS.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
37. I feel sorry for them.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:58 AM
Dec 2013

It's such a tough business. They work so hard and I'm sure us the little guy who gets the flak when things go wrong. I hope the customers will be forgiving, given tis the season and all.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. I just don't see how FedEx and UPS could have foreseen inclement weather in December
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:46 PM
Dec 2013

Well, I just don't see how FedEx and UPS could have foreseen inclement weather in December, a shorter purchasing season, or their own over-promises (the justifications used by both parties).

Somehow, we must rationalize a way to blame the USPS for this, and leave free enterprise to do what it does best-- sell us a bill of goods.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
42. Amazon gave me two $20 gift cards to make up for not getting 2 orders by Christmas
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 12:41 PM
Dec 2013

that I didn't even need for Christmas anyway!

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