We have the anti-vaxx kooks in the US, in Pakistian and other third-world countries they are anti-vaxx to this degree, they claim the vaccinations are to render Muslims sterile, or dead.

Their "traditional" medicine for those who get polio is mostly "Let 'em die."

I think the vaxx groups should pull out of Pakistan.

It wouldn't surprise me if they did.

I'm going by what I read several months ago, how Imans were condemning "Western medicine" as a whole, saying it was a "plot" to sterilize or kill Muslims.

He was in Rawalpindi installing/ maintaining radio equipment for RCA. Some were paying doctors not to give them vaccinations - they thought they would lose their soul if they had it/them.

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It's juvenile and silly, unless or course you are Rick Flair.

Got it!

You complain about the term and resort to attacking a poster, but fail to provide a solution other than your proscription of the term woo.

Or scientifically lacking?

I was not attacking the poster personally, I was pointing out that the continued use of terms like 'woo' are juvenile and do nothing to the further scientific debunking of bullshit.
Using such terms undermines the credibility of the poster's commentary.
But if their whole idea was to combat stupid with stupid, well, mission accomplished.

Is that a better explanation?

So, one could paraphrase your statement as follows: "But if their whole idea was to combat profane inaccuracy with profane inaccuracy, well, mission accomplished."

Is profane inaccuracy substantially different from "stupid"? (Is "pseudoscientific bullshit" substantially different from "woo"?)

Is the audience for this debate one that would accept juvenile expressions or profane expressions better? Which is more effective in getting across the point? Which casts the optimal negative light on pseudoscientific practices and beliefs?

Or are you the audience for the debate?

I don't know.

Out of curiosity, what do you think about the term "selfie"? I find it to be juvenile, but no one consults me as to which words and expressions gain currency.

Yes, that is a better explanation.

I hear it most often describing silly children's literature.

"Woo" as a noun is an insult.
Rightfully so.

"Bullshit" is more effective, but gets censored.

How about balderdash (for the Victorians among us) or crap (probably too broadly defined, but less likely to be censored)?

I heard it bleeped from a couple news broadcasts.

And "balderdash" is simply outdated.
Something a character in an old book says.

"Balderdash", though, was not a serious suggestion; cf., &quot for the Victorians among us)".

How long has the term woo been around? I've seen it on a several sites for quite a while now (years), but when did it gain currency and what was its original context? Did it originally refer to something specific?

The only other term which I know that could be used to substitute for woo is not pc (unless its original context is so far in the past that it is no longer remembered). I doubt that it would be censored.

I can't help but wonder if this is an element of 'blowback' from the eighties when the US was purposely fostering political and religious extremism in Afghanistan, as a part of its proxy war against the USSR. If so, it demonstrates conclusively, why it is best not to violently intervene in other countries for self-serving reasons.

It sucks that the CIA and other US agencies have made careers like aid workers, archaeologists, geologists, etc suspect.
Thanks CIA, DEA, etc for making careers that actually help and inform people dangerous as shit.
Unfortunately these aid workers paid the price. Good job fuckwits.

The people who shot the aid workers are to blame for their actions.

But the CIA creates an atmosphere of distrust of careers that impact human health and knowledge that results in incidents like this.
Kind of like our constant drone attacks creating more 'terrorists' that in turn crates financial opportunity for the MIC.

to use the anti-vaccination program to assist in finding Bin Laden. I would like to know who approved that and will we ever hear a good justification.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-cia-fake-vaccination-campaign-endangers-us-all/

to murder the person who's trying to save your children?