...it's so much more civilized. I despise them for killing dolphins.

How could the alleged most intelligent creature in the world butcher the 2nd most intelligent creature? Makes you wonder...

How could the alleged most intelligent creature in the world butcher the 2nd most intelligent creature? Makes you wonder...

I didn't mean it in a literal sense.

Looks like the dolphins might have the last word; the dolphins meat has been mercury and cadmium contaminated by the pollution generated by their fellow man. I was wrong, humans are not the most intelligent creatures. `

There are people who eat chimps and gorillas, after all..

Amazingly enough they weren't rounding dolphins up using motorboats, capturing the prettiest ones to sell to aquariums, dragging the rest alive by their tails behind pickup trucks up paved streets and slaughtering them in the bay of the firehouse for centuries.

This is a barbaric orgy of greed & bloodlust, which cannot be diminished or justified.

This horror show is beyond comprehension.

You are obviously incapable of seeing the forest for the trees, so to speak.

Comparing domesticated farm animals to oceanic wildlife is inept

This horror show is beyond comprehension.

This absolutely SUCKS and what sucks even more are the ones who condone it. I am so glad I do not know you.

Well, yes. People do care. Maybe you don't, but neither do you speak for the collective conscience of all people, regardless of how you may try to ineffectually trivialize or minimize the positions others may hold.

argue with my position, so he resorts to childish taunts like "nobody cares".

Lecture on about being childish. Oh, yeah, for clarity: Nobody cares that you're vegan, so get off your high horse.

Is NOT an excuse.

I'm so sick of this shit being hauled out to justify animals' slaughter, I don't know what to do.

Oh, the steaming outrage! Of the hundreds of millions of animals slaughtered every year, you take umbrage with what a community has been doing on a village-scale for hundreds of years?

It's doubtful one would find too many "villages" anywhere which continue to do horrendously brutal, cruel things now just because they once did them hundreds of years ago.

If they did continue those traditions we'd see far more headhunters, and cannibals, and people sacrificing other people for traditional beliefs. People find new ways to be cruel, vicious, heartless, and evil in daily life.

Some become right-wing trolls. Others become Republican politicians. Other become simple home-spun drunken slob racists, or wife-beaters, or child molesters. There's a whole wide world of opportunity for brutal people, unfortunately, always a new day to harm someone.

They only need to expand their horizons.

They can even pound sand while reveling in visions of millions of animals being "slaughtered every year."

You live in the USA, don't you? How many fast-food places can you count within a one-mile radius of your home? You live in the home of fast-food, industrialization of animal-to-styrofoam package-ization in the world.

It's doubtful one would find too many "villages" anywhere which continue to do horrendously brutal, cruel things now just because they once did them hundreds of years ago.

The outrage about this cove. And animals are routinely slaughtered to feed millions of people everyday. I suppose the methods employed are what drive a lot of the anger. The idea that killing dolphins are somehow a greater wrong than all others is a weird thought to me.

I don't like seeing it. Much like I don't like seeing pigs, cows and such killed. But I eat meat. I've also slaughtered pigs & chickens, so I know 1st hand it's ugly. And it sucks.

You think Indian (Asian) look at us with outrage & disgust with our cattle consumption?

Just because they've used modern tools to do so doesn't mean they've started doing anything new.

should not be eiped out in a genocidal wiped fashion. The pressure against this will grow and intensify until they stop this murderous behavior. That is just the way it is.

The pressure against this will grow and intensify until they stop this murderous behavior. That is just the way it is.

monthly to help fund this necessary change. We will have to agree to disagree on this.

An animal that has only one young a year will quickly be depleted.

That 'small town' should pick a real livestock animal and stop raping the seas.

If that isn't the very definition of hyperbole...

If you have a bone to pick, it should be with the fisheries that are killing off all the sea life in drift nets, not with a small town of people that kill dolphins with knives every year. Seriously, you talk about blowing things out of proportion...

I think your ignorance of the matter has completely replaced your empathy gene - if you have one.

I want all people to live in harmony with animals. Until that day, I side with people. Animals are being slaughtered on a daily basis in the millions. Why do you pick a fight with the people of Taiji? They are a whaling community who've lived off of the sea for hundreds of years.

Just stop.

Heck, I may even live a thirty minute drive from there. May even have loved ones from around there. May even go deeper than that. Who knows? I'll tell you--you don't. So, meow meow GTFO with that.

All I have to do is read your posts to form an accurate opinion. You don't give a fuck about Taiji, and you don't give a fuck that dolphins are being slaughtered. Those are the only things I need to know about you.

Not the kind of person I want to know.

...let me guess: You're a hypocrite.

I don't wear leather or fur, and don't buy products that use animal testing. I think all slaughter of animals is immoral. Even my fucking dogs are vegan. So how am I a hypocrite? You're just slinging lies at this point, trying to deflect the truth I just told about you.

I'll wait for you to post pics of you outside of a fast-food joint...or how about a seafood section at a supermarket? (Oh, GASP, the HORROR of fishing WILD ANIMALS!!)

I can post a pic tomorrow of me at Taiji with a sign that says bitchkitty is a hypocrite and I support the people of Taiji. Now, who's a liar?

Amirite?

You see, you're what was funny. Your outrage at the bloodletting in Taiji while rivers of blood cascade off the prairies and plains of America!

You're doing math wrong

A couple of hundred years ago, half the economy of this country was based on holding people as fucking slaves.

How hilarious is that?

"what a community has been doing on a village-scale for hundreds of years?"


Social mores do in fact, change. More-so with the advent of worldwide and instantaneous communications-- allowing a much more efficient and effective transposition of contemporary acculturation.

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calf, or a duck, or chickens...etc. They just line them up and slaughter them, no cull involved. Read Anthony Robbins Diet for a New America.

There is a huge difference between slaughtering domestic livestock and killing wild animals just because they can. There is no justification for this dolphin "hunt". It isn't some ancient, cultural tradition. I understand they've only been doing this awful thing for around 45-50 years, so it's not as if rounding up dolphins for killing and/or capturing and selling live ones to aquariums is something they've been doing for centuries. There is no practical reason for it, just as there is no practical reason for the whale hunt each season in the Southern Ocean. Who the hell would want to eat dolphin meat? It's not a cow or a pig or a chicken and if you don't see the difference, well, perhaps you need some additional educational opportunities than those you've had up to this point in your life.

Mass slaughter of animals has been going on on a far greater scale for a couple of generations now. If you think that pigs and cows are lesser beings and we can discount their slaughter on an industrial scale, then perhaps you need some additional educational opportunities than those you've had up to this point in your life.

Especially since you have no independent thoughts and no qualms about quoting my words back at me (without attribution). Shows real lack of imagination, IMO. You surely are not all that bright if really can't see that DOMESTIC livestock is not the same as WILD ANIMALS being killed/captured for no discernible reason other than hubris. Domestic livestock have been feeding mankind for eons so why you think that is as wrong as killing dolphins escapes me. And yes, I do think that dolphins are superior to livestock. Go figure.

as dumb and bred to be exploited as some livestock can be, humans with whatever opportunities they have or pass up simply can be even dumber.
The dolphins deserve mercy and understanding from those compassionate enough to give it.
Humans Im not so sure about.

have to have a license and there are distinctions between killing does and bucks. Wonder why. Many wonder why some cultures eat horse meat, but they do. Some eat dog meat. "Domestic" animals differ from culture to culture. Then we could go on to the slaughter of animal beings just for certain parts, like minks, for instance. Rhinoceros for ivory.

those dolphins and kidnapping baby dolphins from their parents for the health and safety of the larger dolphin population?

Rhinos are not domestic in China, but that's where their horns get sent because some superstitious miscreants think that rhino horn powder are an aphrodisiac.

little things. Little could be more pathetic than that. (I lived rural for the first years of my life)

I believe we should all be vegetarian, for health reasons not religious or political. The immense cost of grain/food to feed to cattle to then kill for meat is wasteful, if nothing else. I believe that "civilization" is the most violent concept of all to the natural balance of humans, animals, food, independence, etc. I don't think any animal should be killed or culled or rationed out for hunters, unless they threaten harm to us.

We're not all that special in the world of killing things.

Many dolphins see their families torn apart, sorted in different pens, kept in close quarters with dolphins they aren't familiar with, never fed and some sold to marine park collectors.

They have to watch their young captured, sorted out, watch, hear and smell- many others suffer & die before them.

The killing part is also not-humane but those animals were terrified for many, many days before they are dead.

they should just move.

Given dolphins' evolved intelligence, this is one step removed from cannibalism.

And, no, not the same as livestock which are not wild animals and are raised, bred, and fed by humans for the purpose of feeding humans. They are also nowhere near as evolved mentally.

criminals. Check their IQ?

As for the Americans, we are uniquely unevolved as to how we breed, crate and kill certain animals, many never seeing the light of day, fed unimaginable "food" and chemicals. At least the Hindus have a practice of blessing and thanking the soul of whatever animal is being eaten, as do the Eskimos when they catch a whale. It is a spiritual event. They all have souls.

We've got no basis to be advising any other culture on human or animal rights.

there's this field called 'science' that has established that one.

The US is leagues ahead of Japan and China when it comes to valuing wild life. Not only within its own borders, but also given that Japan and China try to export the slaugher of wildlife (Japan favoring killing whales, with the Chinese preferring dead rhinos).

so it would be OK to massacre them. White Europeans have always thought themselves smarter and cleverer than the rest of the globe. Nazis created the thought of the Jews as sub-human. Which is why we wantonly take human lives (and property and mineral deposits) of the red, black, brown, yellow people...they are dumber than us...in our special type of arrogant ignorance. We all have souls. See where it all starts? Who is smart and who is not.

And to argue the other side, the Bible says we have the right to ALL the animals. So picking and choosing which ones get to be food (or rationed and killed for pleasure) can get a bit dicey, amongst cultures...none of which are dumb.

1) Science has told us that there is no-none-zero--evidence that 'races' (which are a cultural construct anyways, not a biological one) differ in terms of mental capacity.

2) science does tell us that humans are smarter than sheep, and that dolphins are smarter than turkeys. Science has even gone so far as to compare individual primate species by intelligence.

3) Who gives a fuck what the Bible says? (but, it you want to go there, it also calls for people to be caretakers of the earth)

4) There is a difference between LIVESTOCK and WILDLIFE. If people were raising dolphins in captivity, in breeding ponds, that would be one thing. This is attacking and murdering intelligent, wild creatures to make a quick buck.

Just curious, at what point in this scale is it OK to kill? Where's the cut off point, because there must be one. Livestock (Western culture's idea of it) or Wildlife which has been indigenous folk's rights for millennia. Our forefathers and mothers lived on wildlife. It wasn't until people could afford fencing, farming, pens and rights of land to create Livestock...which I assume you mean being raised to be eaten, since we own them and fed them, or have the right to sell them.

But I respect yours and Caroline Kennedy's right to be outraged at another culture's actions. Again, we hold the record for the killing of actual people, especially the Japanese, let alone beasts for food for omnivores, so doing it by IQ just sounds a bit picky.

I'm outraged too, just for other reasons. So we can agree to disagree?

Peace out.

The military.

What should have been a peace dividend is rapidly being converted into surveillance.

Our police officers beat on human beings, often the elderly and mentally ill, til they die.

And then there is the US Navy and its "scientific" sonic blasts that kill whales and dolphins, and impair others, yet our military advisers say these science experiments are necessary.

Somehow I think we have a lot to do here at home, as well as our endeavoring to protect the dolphins in Japan.

why do they keep coming back through the southern tip of Wakayama every year?