so I was hoping that would help everybody else to normalize a little bit. It would be great if CA could get a couple of weeks of slow, steady rain.

You want to buy some land in Alaska?

We got a total of a half inch since Friday. Half an inch a week would be great!

About 100 miles north of San Francisco. Maybe a couple of inches, just enough to make it look pretty and not make driving hazardous.

KTVU channel 2 in SF is saying it rained more today than the entire month of January, which isn't much but hopefully it's a start. Half an inch in some areas.

And we in LA are rejoicing. Really rejoicing. It's rain. Not much rain, but at least it gives us hope.

knock the dust down if nothing else.

Sprinkled today in Sacramento, news outlets were treating it like a storm. We are getting desperate.

San Pedro/Long Beach area tonight.

I don't think enough to wash everything off but plenty to make the weeds go WILD!

If this thread were about the Midwest, it would have already been locked. But since it is coastal, it will be left as LBN.

One geologist says it may be the worst of the last 500 years. As a good share a of the nation's produce comes from the California Central Valley, the water conditions here have national implications, so yeah, us getting a drop of rain out here on the coast is kind of big news.

California getting some rain has zero effect on the nation as a whole. This belongs in the California forum, not LBN. But don't worry, it will stay, as local news on the coasts are perceived to be be just fine for LBN.

Keep it in the Minnesota forum OK?

Most anything datelined in a Midwest state will get locked with hours in LBN. East or West coast? A story about rain is just fine.

BTW, growing iceberg lettuce in a freaking desert? That's sustainable...

The Salinas Valley and the Central Valley are hardly "freaking deserts". Enjoy your $6.00 lettuce.

Enjoy your desert.


BTW, anything falling on your head, is local...

But apparently you have some kind of bone to pick with California and the coastal regions of our nation. To each their own I guess, but if you can't fathom the national implications of a severe drought in California, a hurricane in Florida, or freezing storm that kills people in the Northeast, then there's little I can say to enlighten you.

I'm terribly sorry that your Midwestern storms don't get the recognition you feel they should. Shoot me a PM when you post one in LBN and I'll happily rec it.

What's funny is that California is made up of people from everywhere as you know. In any event, thanks for your OP. We do need the rain out here and I'm happy for every drop. Sorry, someone's jealousy rose up. You tried to be nice. That's all that mattered.

Try the following links:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-light-rain-monday-forecast-20140202,0,4740526.story

http://www.latimes.com/national/lanow/la-me-ln-light-rain-monday-forecast-20140202,0,4740526.story

See which one works. Can you see the difference? This thread should have locked 20 hours ago.

and yes, when the 8th largest economy in the world, has a drier year than ever before in weather records, it is national news.

and to further show that you don't know what you're talking about:

the area described in the article is not a desert. nor is the largest lettuce producing area either --Salinas valley...a place Steinbeck wrote about, and he didn't write about it as a desert.

and it is major news when major weather hits the midwest or northeast. These are regions.

what's your problem? i never try to lock posts about severe or noteworthy weather in parts of the country.

Light rain, maybe thunderstorms? OMG!!! Call out the national guard!!!

It sure as hell isn't nation wide rain. It's a local news story that should be locked...

2 of those just 0.01.

It sure as hell is news when it rains during the driest year in recorded recordkeeping.

Seriously, you're losing the argument.

It doesn't matter to anyone who isn't under it. It"s LIGHT RAIN!!! It's barely news, except that it has been dry. THE NATION could give a shit. How many have died? How many $Billions for reconstruction? When is your governor call for FEMA funds? Oh yeah, it's LIGHT RAIN. Bad if you are planning a picnic or a day at the beach, but it can't get much more local.

Do you understand that LBN is for news of NATIONWIDE interest? It's not for a rain shower.

Post a story in LBN about light rain in Kansas, Iowa, anywhere other than the coasts and it will get locked in a heartbeat. Post about light rain in California or New York, perfectly fine...

Are you saying that being a host of a different forum somehow enhances or elevates a person's opinion?

Does that somehow make local weather, a chance of scattered showers, national news?

That particular poster thinks he's above the rules, and has a reputation and a long track record of hurling unfounded accusations at posters who voice an opinion he doesn't like.

He seems to think his opinion is the only valid opinion, on any subject. He seems to think his opinion is elevated, as you can see from his posts here in this thread. I don't think that, and neither does anyone else I know of.

I've been getting kind of frustrated with people arguing with me that light rain isn't local news. For cripes sake, the SOURCE of the article says it's local.

Http://www.latimes.com/LOCAL...

that url wording is hard to ignore

like "Benghazi"

like "IRS"

like "Trayvon Martin is black and he gets treated better in the media than Zimmerman..."


you're full of "asides".

and that is experiencing a potentially cataclysmic and definitely record-breaking drought is national news.

How much produce is grown in LA? This is LOCAL news.

Thanks, CreekDog.

You may think differently.

Whatever, WEATHER is local news. Catastrophic storms MAY rise to National News status, but LIGHT RAIN?

I always assumed that's what you all called the guys who take the field in those lovely purple uniforms so I'll take it as a compliment!

Nice try though...

California's weather is a "local" story to all Americans as we are the largest agricultural state in the nation. We produce more food crops than any other state period. We even produce more cotton than Texas does.

Our weather is a big deal to all Americans.

"Slight chance of scattered showers" is NEVER national news. Contrary to inflated egos, 12% is NOT a majority... That's right wing math.

Pretty simple to prove your assertion completely incorrect. What are the odds that I can find ONE person who doesn't give a shit about sprinkles in LA? All Americans do not care if the wise move may be to bring an umbrella to work in LA.

wow, you've lost it.

nothing you ever say will i ever believe without checking first.

wow. you called someone right wing for saying 12% is a significant part of the US population. wow wow.

What did I say? I said that 12% is NOT a majority. Care to contest that fact? There is a group that think they represent the majority, the right wing. Problems? Where did I call anyone right Wing? Care to quote me where I said someone was right wing?

There's someone losing, but it isn't me.

or else you wouldn't be arguing with those of us who said that what happens to 1 of 8 Americans is important.

you're trying to minimize what you said, but you absolutely implied that either 12% isn't nationally significant or you attempted to say it's not national news unless it's effecting a majority of us.

which is ridiculous.

and yes, i won't let you get away with arguing that 12% isn't significant enough to constitute national news while running away from saying that effecting 50% is the threshold for national news otherwise it's "right wing math".

none of us that you're arguing against said that we are 50% of the national population --but you created a strawman because you couldn't win the argument on the merits, and you knew that you couldn't so you tried to say that we were saying we're a majority of the nation which we didn't say.

we said 1 of 8 people is a big deal, which it is.

now just stop. I don't hate on Minnesota, why do you give us a hard time?

Why are you trifling with me? Surely someone of your dizzying intellect can convince the LA Times to move its weather from the LOCAL section of their site to the NATIONAL section, as it is of vital import to the entire nation....

When you get the LA Times to post the story in the National section, then I'll admit you are right.

Face the music, admit that a slight chance of scattered showers does not constitute national interest. Hell, if it misses one by half a county, it's not interesting, much less half a country.

just one. tell us. right now. smart guy?

You can say you are wrong now.

when something happens to 12% of the nation, it does matter to all.

and if you weren't calling anyone in the thread "right wing" or saying that anyone in the thread was arguing like a right winger, then there's no need to think you were talking about anyone here, in which case, you were just making noise, but about nobody here in particular.

so why bother?

Are you seriously going to try to continue to argue that something posted in the LOCAL section of a news site is of NATIONAL import? That a slight possibility of light rain in LA is somehow import to people not in California? Does any one in Nevada care, much less the East Coast?

Just because you staked out an opinion, it doesn't make you right. You got spanked worse than the Broncos, yet you are acting like you won the Super Bowl.

You said you would concede if I could find one person. I found one person. Are you going to hold to your word?

because it doesn't have Jack to do with weather being local news or not. Still waiting on that concession you promised, but I can see that you are apparently not honorable enough to live up to it.


Now that you bring it up, what was your reason to announce that you had posted a completely tangental OP? Do you always announce in unrelated threads the fact that you posted something? Was it a pathetic attempt distract from your epic fail? Or just a "Look what I can do!!!"? My 5 year old cousin just grew out of that stage.

i mentioned it to you because you're giving me a hard time and even though it shouldn't annoy you, it would.

happy now?

You replied to me, Skippy. I stated the fact that rain is local and not national. You have apparently had some huge issue with that. Not even the LA Times is on your side, but you keep coming back with lame distractions. You even outlined the parameters by which you would concede, yet have been unable to live up to your promise when the parameters were met just upthread from your grandstanding.

Your breathless announcement of another post means about as much as Best Buy announcing a sale. All it tells me is that even you realize how ridiculous your claims have been and you are completely out of reasons to claim that a story that even the LA Times calls local is news of national importance.

Here, we be thinking about where to put the next storms snow.

I remember the drought that Houston and Texas suffered a couple of years ago. I was excited every time I saw a chance of rain. We are still experiencing some of the effects of that drought

Good luck

I remember your drought and the slaughtering of the cattle and suffering and the fires. It's good to have a little rain these days.

We want to tell the world, whether the world wants to listen or not.

I also say good luck to California. Ignore the naysayers and go have a dance in the rain

So fucking what!!! Here in New Mexico, we are used to these kind of winters!!! I've lived here all of my 38 years, and this winter is nothing like the next. Sometimes you get the shit, and sometimes you don't. Just have to learn to drive in it.

We got 3"s Friday night and my husband had to drive it to goto work on Saturday. Just had to wake early enough to drive in the shit.

Can't believe the people bitching about this. Especially the east coast! You should be used to this! Sorry, I'm not Texas, however this isn't our first rodeo!!!


Edit: damn spelling!!!

45 minutes south of Durango, CO. I can leave my driveway and be up at Purgatory within 40 minutes.

I'm not sure how much wine we'll be able to produce this year