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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:09 PM Feb 2014

NJ State Trooper assigned to Gov. Christie arrested on theft charges

Source: Bergen Record


Monday, February 3, 2014 Last updated: Monday February 3, 2014, 10:11 AM

BY MATTHEW MCGRATH

STAFF WRITER

A New Jersey State trooper assigned to Gov. Christie’s protective detail was arrested for theft in Pennsylvania early last month, and he tried to use that connection to duck the charges, police said.

During his Jan. 8 arrest, Trooper William A. Carvounis, 35, asked the police there for a break, Tilden, Pa., Chief William McEllroy said Monday.

“We don’t do that,” said the chief.

Carvounis was arrested for stealing $267 worth of ammunition from Cabella’s, a sporting goods retail chain in the township, which is about 32 miles west of Allentown, Pa.

Read more: http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/NJ_State_Trooper_assigned_to_Gov_Christie_arrested_on_theft_charges.html



Hmmm, a circle of corruption and lawlessness?

Wonder why this didn't come out way back on January 8?
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NJ State Trooper assigned to Gov. Christie arrested on theft charges (Original Post) George II Feb 2014 OP
Poor cop had to steal ammunition to eat jsr Feb 2014 #1
This motherfucker makes 108,000 a year and he steals 267 dollars of ammunition bigdarryl Feb 2014 #2
AYFKM? 100k for a trooper? What am I missing? Is cost of living that high in NJ? nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #7
good grief. I just looked up their benefits. Starting salary 62k, retirement at 55? These guys have okaawhatever Feb 2014 #8
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #15
Most cops don’t perceive the fact that they are working class folks. busterbrown Feb 2014 #20
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #22
Exactly, that's why I hate fucking cops gopiscrap Feb 2014 #25
Being a cop is a relitively safe job. And most fatalities that do happen are from traffice accidents DesMoinesDem Feb 2014 #27
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #28
It is relatively safe. Farming is more dangerous than being a cop. So is driving a truck DesMoinesDem Feb 2014 #29
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #30
Being an LEO just breaks the top ten dangerous occupations in this nation. Ikonoklast Feb 2014 #32
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #33
It also kinda ruins your argument. Being an LEO is a relatively safe occupation. Ikonoklast Feb 2014 #35
As is working in the woods (logging) or flying helios (especially logging, fire-fighting or medivac) SorellaLaBefana Feb 2014 #34
Yes, it's pretty damn high VWolf Feb 2014 #13
County Officers make more than that in NY Herself Feb 2014 #16
Correction: He gets caught stealing. Who knows how many times he flashes the tin to save his skin? TheBlackAdder Feb 2014 #14
lol...“We don’t do that”...Yeah, but we do BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #3
They did arrest him, so, apparently they don't do that. sked14 Feb 2014 #4
You misunderstood...obviously, they do it in NJ BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #5
My misunderstanding. sked14 Feb 2014 #10
No worries BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #11
Yeah I had to laugh at that when I saw that bigdarryl Feb 2014 #6
Professional curtesy safeinOhio Feb 2014 #12
This 'peace officer' is getting paid so little heaven05 Feb 2014 #9
I’m sure he rationalized entitlement!!! busterbrown Feb 2014 #21
You can't make this shit up......eom mrmpa Feb 2014 #17
what did Christie need that much ammo for? yurbud Feb 2014 #18
They ticket you for missing Seatbelts bucolic_frolic Feb 2014 #19
Beware: Republicon "values" may be contagious Berlum Feb 2014 #23
Typical Cop gopiscrap Feb 2014 #24
shoved ammo in his pockets and tore tag off a hat and wore it. probably claim he's sick.. Sunlei Feb 2014 #26
Can we start calling this "Troopergate" yet ? eppur_se_muova Feb 2014 #31
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
2. This motherfucker makes 108,000 a year and he steals 267 dollars of ammunition
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:16 PM
Feb 2014

What a dumb ass.If he's on the Governors protective detail that means he has time in as a trooper.http://www.njsp.org/recruit/salary.html

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
8. good grief. I just looked up their benefits. Starting salary 62k, retirement at 55? These guys have
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:39 PM
Feb 2014

it pretty good. I wonder how the city police rate in comparison.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. Yep ...
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:28 PM
Feb 2014

Pretty good ... except for the daily prospect of having someone shoot at you.

Good Grief!

I'm not defending the alleged theft ... But we really do have to stop criticizing other working class folks, because they are well paid.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
20. Most cops don’t perceive the fact that they are working class folks.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:42 AM
Feb 2014

They think they are soldiers of freedom whom should be treated with deference from the those who pays their salary...Been happening for years, but 911 amped it up to 12...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
22. I disagree ...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:13 AM
Feb 2014

and so would my father (R.I.P.). I think the 80/20 rule applies here ... 80% of cops are "good and faithful" public servants; but the 20% that are bad seed get all of the public's attention.

(And yes, that 20% should be rooted out)

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
25. Exactly, that's why I hate fucking cops
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:14 PM
Feb 2014

because of their arrogant attitude and the sense that they project that they feel they are beyond reproach. Add to that the unjustified rhoid rage shootings they do, the concealing of evidence, or fixing cases for prosecutors and covering each others asses when tried...there are plenty of reasons to hate 'em.
My respect is for teachers. The shit they have to put up with on a daily basis and the unknown variables. They are truly the ones who shape our nation, yet are so disrespected and paid shit!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
28. Okay ...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Feb 2014

that explains the standard issued bullet-proof vests and gun that they wear and the advanced self-defense training they receive ... because the job is relatively safe.

But I guess relative is relative. It's less dangerous than, say, soldier; but more dangerous than librarian ... unless that librarian job happens to be in a school, a mall, or a theater.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
29. It is relatively safe. Farming is more dangerous than being a cop. So is driving a truck
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:59 PM
Feb 2014

or flying a plane or roofing. Cops may get a bullet proof vest, but their seat belt is far more important because most of the fatalities happen in ordinary traffic accidents.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
32. Being an LEO just breaks the top ten dangerous occupations in this nation.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:45 PM
Feb 2014

It is a far safer job than what I do for a living.


Groundskeeping is a more dangerous occupation.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. Okay ...
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 08:07 AM
Feb 2014

It's in the top ten most dangerous jobs but it's a relatively safe occupation? I guess it's all relative then.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
35. It also kinda ruins your argument. Being an LEO is a relatively safe occupation.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:22 PM
Feb 2014

When there are millions of people in other occupations in this nation who have a greater chance of being maimed or killed on the job than any LEO and no one pulls the old, "But they can die on any given day!" line in order to justify their wages...which are usually far, far lower for an occupation far, far more dangerous than being an LEO.



No one gives them a funeral with full honors and hundreds of other peace officers all on overtime showing up for the funeral.

They just get buried.

SorellaLaBefana

(147 posts)
34. As is working in the woods (logging) or flying helios (especially logging, fire-fighting or medivac)
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:58 PM
Feb 2014

But the people who do this are not generally authoritarians with a psychological profile quite similar to that of criminals.

Police have sought a situation in which violence is expected, and embraced.

As bad as it is in the US, it is apparently even worse in the UK:

The entire criminal justice system was infiltrated by organised crime gangs, according to a secret Scotland Yard report leaked to The Independent.

In 2003 Operation Tiberius found that men suspected of being Britain’s most notorious criminals had compromised multiple agencies, including HM Revenue & Customs, the Crown Prosecution Service, the City of London Police and the Prison Service, as well as pillars of the criminal justice system including juries and the legal profession.

The strategic intelligence scoping exercise – “ratified by the most senior management” at the Met {ed: Scotland Yard} – uncovered jurors being bought off or threatened to return not-guilty verdicts; corrupt individuals working for HMRC, both in the UK and overseas; and “get out of jail free cards” being bought for £50,000.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-corruption-of-britain-uks-key-institutions-infiltrated-by-criminals-9052617.html


Or, perhaps more likely, their media is simply more willing to report on police corruption and abuse?




Herself

(185 posts)
16. County Officers make more than that in NY
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:48 PM
Feb 2014

There base pay isn't all the pay they receive.

Oh it's a real racket... Want a job? Get ready to write checks for "campaign" contributions to the gop... I've worked it, left it. What you do to get a job, you do more of to keep it.

Goes against my morals I was raised on and the same ones I raised my children with.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
14. Correction: He gets caught stealing. Who knows how many times he flashes the tin to save his skin?
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:39 PM
Feb 2014

There are so many cops and public workers who drunk drive, speed, and do other things.


If they gets pulled over, there is a pecking order...

Lowest to highest:

Volunteer Fireman - Most local police, besides their own district, will give them a ticket.
Local Police - There is a tacit reciprocal agreement not to ticket, but some towns will.
State Police - Most every local town will give them a free pass.


In NJ, a State Trooper badge is a golden ticket.


===


The saying for police is:

Flash the tin and save your skin.
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
6. Yeah I had to laugh at that when I saw that
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:22 PM
Feb 2014

Lying motherfucker cops give each other breaks all the time.Shit as a Correction Officer I got breaks most of the time when stopped for a motor vehicle violation.

safeinOhio

(32,697 posts)
12. Professional curtesy
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:14 PM
Feb 2014

Bad cops expect that from other cops. Just mention those words to a good cop and they'll go ballistic .

bucolic_frolic

(43,206 posts)
19. They ticket you for missing Seatbelts
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 04:24 PM
Feb 2014

and this guy wanted a pass on theft

Throw the book at him

State police are known for better discipline than this

Hope they clean it up

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. shoved ammo in his pockets and tore tag off a hat and wore it. probably claim he's sick..
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:19 PM
Feb 2014

Legal insurance and his awesome medical insurance will cover treatment, lawyer, court costs.

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