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hue

(4,949 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:37 PM Feb 2014

Catholic School Teacher Fired Over Pregnancy

Source: abc NEWS

An unmarried teacher at a Roman Catholic middle school in Montana has been fired after getting pregnant.

Patrick Haggarty, the superintendent of Catholic schools for the Diocese of Helena, says Butte Central teacher Shaela Evenson "made a willful decision to violate the terms of her contract." He says the agreement requires that Evenson respect the moral and religious teachings of the Catholic Church in both her professional and personal life.

Butte Central elementary and middle school principal Kerrie Hellyer tells The Montana Standard ( http://bit.ly/1enCcQ0 ) that Haggarty dismissed Evenson on Jan. 10.

Evenson taught sixth-, seventh- and eighth-grade literature and physical education for just over eight years. A phone message left for her Tuesday wasn't immediately returned.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/catholic-school-teacher-fired-pregnancy-22363980



Catholic compassion!!
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Catholic School Teacher Fired Over Pregnancy (Original Post) hue Feb 2014 OP
CREEPS. alp227 Feb 2014 #1
Not very fucking smart either (pardon the pun) Major Nikon Feb 2014 #2
Don't think it counts for the religious nuts Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #8
I think the only exemption the religionists get from title VII is for religious discrimination Major Nikon Feb 2014 #11
They're not, in this sense, in any context where it conflicts with the religious tenets of the RCC. Chan790 Feb 2014 #19
You can't sign away your civil rights to an employer Major Nikon Feb 2014 #22
You're wrong. This has been litigated more than once. Chan790 Feb 2014 #30
"Thrown out. Repeatedly. No basis for a civil rights violation claim." Major Nikon Feb 2014 #31
A Thuggish Criminal Organization of Misogyny warrant46 Feb 2014 #41
Not the first time they have tried this Major Nikon Feb 2014 #43
If she had an Abortion, the School, likely would not have known. PeoViejo Feb 2014 #3
My standard reply: kiva Feb 2014 #4
Why would anyone belong to that Criminal Organization warrant46 Feb 2014 #9
I've said the same thing many times. crim son Feb 2014 #21
Pretty sure God's commandment to "Be fruitful and multiply" overrules her contract. DRoseDARs Feb 2014 #5
I laugh when people tell me that Catholic education is the best. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #6
The studies I have seen put them at a close second to the best schools. happyslug Feb 2014 #20
The Public High School that Served My Hometown Was Stripped of its Accreditation by the State AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #29
So, if she had quietly had an abortion Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #7
She didn't have an abortion or use contraception, or it failed, so she is...bad? uppityperson Feb 2014 #10
Apparently she conceived LiberalElite Feb 2014 #34
Nun Gives Birth in Italy, Claims She Was Unaware of Pregnancy (stone her!) Omaha Steve Feb 2014 #12
A couple of simple DNA tests would sort that out very quickly Thor_MN Feb 2014 #33
So the nun loses her job, but if she were a priest she'd get quietly moved to another parish Major Nikon Feb 2014 #37
So I guess she's Catholic? SoapBox Feb 2014 #13
Not necessarily... jeanliberty90 Feb 2014 #26
And yet we have threads like this. AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #14
Live by the rightwing religious nuts, Demobrat Feb 2014 #15
of course, they also don't want her to have access to contraceptives... mike_c Feb 2014 #16
That's taking care of the fetus. Downwinder Feb 2014 #17
this woman's life is her own heaven05 Feb 2014 #18
She does if she want to continue Demobrat Feb 2014 #25
yep heaven05 Feb 2014 #32
A Bargain with the devil warrant46 Feb 2014 #35
I would like to see their faces demigoddess Feb 2014 #23
Of course they would. Demobrat Feb 2014 #24
One other thing about Catholic schools VMA131Marine Feb 2014 #27
Had she simply molested or raped a little boy she probably would WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #28
Only Priests do that warrant46 Feb 2014 #36
I seem to remember a story about an unmarried woman giving birth..... brooklynite Feb 2014 #38
Arguably she was married Major Nikon Feb 2014 #39
anyone wonder why teachers need unions. dembotoz Feb 2014 #40
And they tell us there's no war on women????!!! hamsterjill Feb 2014 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #44

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
2. Not very fucking smart either (pardon the pun)
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:46 PM
Feb 2014
The Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978

An Act

To amend Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to prohibit sex discrimination on the basis of pregnancy.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

That section 701 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

&quot k) The terms 'because of sex' or 'on the basis of sex' include, but are not limited to, because of or on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions; and women affected by pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions shall be treated the same for all employment-related purposes, including receipt of benefits under fringe benefit programs, as other persons not so affected but similar in their ability or inability to work, and nothing in section 703(h) of this title shall be interpreted to permit otherwise. This subsection shall not require an employer to pay for health insurance benefits for abortion, except where the life of the mother would be endangered if the fetus were carried to term, or except where medical complications have arisen from an abortion: Provided, That nothing herein shall preclude an employer from providing abortion benefits or otherwise affect bargaining agreements in regard to abortion.".

Sec. 2. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), the amendment made by this Act shall be effective on the date of enactment.

(b) The provisions of the amendment made by the first section of this Act shall not apply to any fringe benefit program or fund, or insurance program which is in effect on the date of enactment of this Act until 180 days after enactment of this Act.

Sec. 3. Until the expiration of a period of one year from the date of enactment of this Act or, if there is an applicable collective- bargaining agreement in effect on the date of enactment of this Act, until the termination of that agreement, no person who, on the date of enactment of this Act is providing either by direct payment or by making contributions to a fringe benefit fund or insurance program, benefits in violation with this Act shall, in order to come into compliance with this Act, reduce the benefits or the compensation provided any employee on the date of enactment of this Act, either directly or by failing to provide sufficient contributions to a fringe benefit fund or insurance program: Provided, That where the costs of such benefits on the date of enactment of this Act are apportioned between employers and employees, the payments or contributions required to comply with this Act may be made by employers and employees in the same proportion: And provided further, That nothing in this section shall prevent the readjustment of benefits or compensation for reasons unrelated to compliance with this Act.

Approved October 31, 1978.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/pregnancy.cfm
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
8. Don't think it counts for the religious nuts
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:22 PM
Feb 2014

Which is why the Right is currently trying to get religious exemptions for anti-gay bigotry.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. I think the only exemption the religionists get from title VII is for religious discrimination
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:57 PM
Feb 2014

I could be wrong here, but I think as long as they have more than 15 employees, they are subject to the PDA.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
19. They're not, in this sense, in any context where it conflicts with the religious tenets of the RCC.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:35 PM
Feb 2014

They can't fire you per-say for getting pregnant but they can fire you for behavior that publicly-violates the moral-turpitude clause of your employment (i.e. non-marital sex) as evidenced by observable conditions. (i.e. unwed pregnancy)

It's a needle-thin line...but they can walk it and win in court 100 times out of 100: she wasn't fired for getting pregnant, she was fired for setting a bad example to students. The standard employment contract used by dioceses nation-wide for Catholic-school specifies that you can be fired for publicly-observable actions and outcomes of violations of the Catholic doctrine. It's a valid contractual term and one she freely entered into.

First-hand knowledge, my mother served 2 terms on the local Archdiocesan school board and 3 years of a 4-year term on the school board of the local Catholic HS as the parental representative. This never came up in this sense but the teachers union fought to take it out in contract negotiations and leveraged a well-deserved raise for its continued inclusion.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. You can't sign away your civil rights to an employer
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:52 PM
Feb 2014

Any contract provision that is in conflict with civil rights law is unenforceable. If this weren't true, every employer in America would force employees to sign away their civil rights as a condition of employment in order to protect themselves from civil rights judgements. So whatever she signed is irrelevant to title VII. Title VII protects her from getting fired for being pregnant. She can and should file a claim with the EEOC or sue them in district court.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
30. You're wrong. This has been litigated more than once.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:22 PM
Feb 2014

Thrown out. Repeatedly. No basis for a civil rights violation claim.

Also courts have consistently upheld the validity of moral turpitude clauses in employment contracts. Employers have the right to require moral action of employees, even in their off-work hours.

Thank you for playing. You lose but here's a toaster for your efforts.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
31. "Thrown out. Repeatedly. No basis for a civil rights violation claim."
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 12:11 AM
Feb 2014
We have seen a recent spate of cases in which religiously affiliated schools have fired women for getting pregnant while single or for using IVF. These cases are suggestive of a past when women were routinely pushed out of the workplace because of pregnancy. Such discrimination is now illegal, even if religiously motivated.

https://www.aclu.org/using-religion-discriminate

[font color="black" size="5" face="face"]Christa Dias, Ohio Mom, Awarded More Than $170,000 For Discrimination, Cincinnati Catholic Archdiocese Expected To Appeal [/font]
CINCINNATI -- A jury found an Ohio archdiocese discriminated against a teacher fired after becoming pregnant via artificial insemination, leaving legal experts expecting an appeal they say could have a much wider legal impact.

Christa Dias, who was fired from two schools in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Cincinnati in October 2010, was awarded more than $170,000 Monday after winning her federal anti-discrimination lawsuit against the archdiocese.

Dias' attorney, Robert Klingler, argued she was fired simply because she was pregnant and unmarried, a dismissal he said violated state and federal law.

Steven Goodin, the attorney for the archdiocese and the schools, contended Dias was fired for violating her contract, which he said required her to comply with the philosophies and teachings of the Catholic church. The church considers artificial insemination immoral and a violation of church doctrine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/christa-dias-mom-awarded-_n_3383022.html

[font color="black" size="5" face="face"]Fort Wayne diocese told to release staff info on morals clause[/font]
FORT WAYNE – The Fort Wayne-South Bend Catholic Diocese will have to tell a former teacher how many teachers signed a morals clause while they were employed by diocesan schools from 2006 to 2011.

Emily Herx's request for the information comes in the midst of her lawsuit against the diocese. She sued the diocese in the spring of 2012, claiming she had been the victim of discrimination when she was fired from her teaching job at St. Vincent de Paul School when she underwent in vitro fertilization.
...
The Equal Employment Opportunities Commission found in Herx's favor in January 2012.

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20131010/LOCAL03/310109984


[font color="black" size="5" face="face"]Taking a Stand Against a 21st Century Scarlet Letter[/font]
Today, we filed suit in federal court on behalf of Jennifer Maudlin, a single mother who was fired when her employer learned that she was pregnant. Jennifer's employer – a religiously-affiliated community organization called Inside Out – says that it fired Jennifer for violating its unwritten rule against non-marital sex.

What happened to Jennifer amounts to discrimination based on pregnancy status and gender. Why? Because Inside Out learned about its workers' sexual lives by looking at its women workers' bellies. In fact, Jennifer and other women workers who became pregnant had to hide their bellies for as long as possible because they were terrified of being found out and fired. Unmarried men who had sex, and even those who became fathers, had nothing to fear, because – of course – their bellies wouldn't give them away. In Jennifer's workplace, pregnancy became a "scarlet letter," marking unmarried employees for termination.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights-religion-belief/taking-stand-against-21st-century-scarlet-letter

[font color="black" size="5" face="face"]Teacher sues church over pregnancy firing[/font]
A former first-grade teacher at Kettering’s Ascension Catholic School is suing the school, Ascension Church and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Cincinnati in federal court, saying officials discriminated against her a year ago when they fired the unmarried woman after she told the principal about her pregnancy.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/teacher-sues-church-over-pregnancy-firing/nThJR/

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
43. Not the first time they have tried this
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:13 PM
Feb 2014

What should be noted is the lengths the Catholic church goes to in order to micromanage people who may not even be Catholics. This is why organized religion deserves absolutely no political influence and their dogma should be limited to only those who willingly participate.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
3. If she had an Abortion, the School, likely would not have known.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:48 PM
Feb 2014

Instead, she chose to carry the Child and face judgement.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
4. My standard reply:
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:55 PM
Feb 2014

As long as people choose to teach, work, and send their children to religious schools this will continue to happen. When you work for or are a student at one of these schools you agree to their terms and they will enforce them.

The only solution is to refuse to have anything to do with parochial schools if you do not want them to intrude into your personal life.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
9. Why would anyone belong to that Criminal Organization
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:30 PM
Feb 2014

A Bunch of Homophobic Creeps and Child Sodomizers

crim son

(27,464 posts)
21. I've said the same thing many times.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:40 PM
Feb 2014

If the conditions of one's employment are truly untenable, then it's time to look elsewhere for work.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
20. The studies I have seen put them at a close second to the best schools.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:23 PM
Feb 2014

The problem is the best schools are the Public Schools. Now certain private schools are better then public schools, but as a whole they are NOT. The main reason bring is the quality of the school mostly depends on the input of parents into the School. The more parental input the better the School (Thus schools with PTAs, Parent Teachers Associations, tend to be better then Schools with PTOs, Parent Teacher's organizations for the National PTA insist that any school with a PTA include parental input and PTA is a registered trademark so to have a PTA the school must meet the requirements of the National PTA).

Thus one sign of a better school is the existence of a PTA in that school. The existence of a PTO is a sign of an inferior school (PTO is NOT a registered trademark but sounds close to PTA).

Some Catholic Schools do not have PTAs, but being community based often have similar structures, thus tend to have high parental input into the school.

Other signs of a bad school is an emphasis on sports. Not that sports is bad, but if it is the first thing the school talks about when they talk about themselves it is a bad sign.

Now, many public schools fall into the trap of seeing their sports program (mostly Football and Basketball) as the school identity. Catholic schools rarely fall into this trap (Through some do).

Thus, Catholic Schools tend to be right behind Public Schools when it comes to quality of education. The chief reason for being second is the lack of funds do to the lack of access to money from local taxes, thus less money to spend on what is needed for education.

Now, as a whole, the rest of the "private" schools are below both Public Schools and Catholic Schools, mostly do to lack of parental input. Some private school emphasis their sports program (like many collages do, for example Norte Dame University but this is a issue of pre-collage education not collage education) but when it comes to high schools, how good a football team they have seems to be in reverse proportion to how when students learn in that school, i.e. the better the football team, the worse education the school provides).

I bring this up for, taken as a whole, Public Schools are still the best schools in the US. Catholic Schools are a close Second. Private schools are way behind both,

There are exceptions to this rule. Inner City Schools have had a problem with education for over 50 years, mostly as the better educated parents moved to the Suburbs and parents who tend to move more often tended to end up in inner city schools for that is where the cheap housing was and is. Students whose parents move a lot (who also tend to be the poorest income earners) tend to to the hardest to educate and cost the most to educate. Thus the overall quality of these schools have declined.

On the other hand most of these schools tend to have very good education for those students who parents do NOT move a lot. Thus in many inner school districts, the Catholic Schools tend to come out ahead for the parents of the students in Catholic Schools tend to be more stable and thus provide a better home environment to support the student's education. The Public Schools in those same districts also provides such services to those students who have the most support at home.

When I was in an Inner City Public Schools 40 years ago I saw this in action. Those students who came from homes with solid families and support at home for their education, you had all type of educational options equal to any provided in the surrounding suburbs (I was in the group of students took Latin, Calculus, Chemistry I and II and Physics, Dance was offered, you could learn auto repair and other trades). On the other hand these inner city schools had students who had no support at home and it showed, lack of interest in education and a clear need for extra help for such students, these are your "High Cost to Educate Students&quot .

Now the existence of these high cost to educate students is what brings people impression of inner city schools down. Most inner city schools go through the motions of educating these students, but most do not have the resources to provide them the intense almost one on one education they need.

My point is if the student has the support at home to get an education in almost any public school, even an inner city one, they can get it. The same with people in Catholic Schools. There are exceptions to this rule, but such exceptions are rarer then most people think.

On the other hand, private schools, do to their lack of access to tax dollars AND lack of access to assistance from their local Catholic Church, tends NOT to have the financial resources to provide the education opportunities of public schools. They often claim they are better, but the Statistics tends NOT to support that claim. Worse, given that most private schools weed out the Most Expensive to Educate Students from their student body, they tend NOT even to match up with the students of the local Public Schools, when that body is viewed as one (both the high achievers AND the Most Expensive to Educate Students).

Here are some reports that found that economics of the Student's family was much more important then if they went to a private or public school:

Overall, the study demonstrates that demographic differences between
students in public and private schools more than account for the relatively high raw scores of private schools. Indeed, after controlling for these differences, the presumably advantageous “private school effect” disappears, and even reverses in most cases.

http://www.greatschools.org/find-a-school/defining-your-ideal/1173-comparing-private-public-school-test-scores.gs?page=all

http://www.ncspe.org/publications_files/OP111.pdf


Once the full scope of the family is taken into account, cultural capital as well as economic capital, private school effects disappear.

http://www.edline.com/uploads/pdf/PrivateSchoolsReport.pdf


Now there are reports that try to down play the above, the following is a classic example of that. It shows a report that SAT scores stagnated for public schools in South Carolina while private schools SAT scores went up. The mention is passing that more students tend to be going to Private Schools and that low income students tend to be falling behind, but then do not point out that such low income students are a growing presence in public schools, while private school tend to get more and more of the students of parents with higher education.

http://thevoiceforschoolchoice.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/sat-public-schools-down-private-schools-up/

Just a comment on the best educational "bargains" in the US.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
29. The Public High School that Served My Hometown Was Stripped of its Accreditation by the State
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 10:26 PM
Feb 2014

That school wasn't actually IN the town, it was in the middle of the nearby city.
How bad does a public school have to be to lose its accreditation?

Didn't go there.

Omaha Steve

(99,698 posts)
12. Nun Gives Birth in Italy, Claims She Was Unaware of Pregnancy (stone her!)
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:14 PM
Feb 2014



http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/01/18/nun_gives_birth_in_italy_names_baby_francis.html



Photo by Marco Secchi/Getty Images

By Daniel Politi Jan. 18 2014 11:05 AM

A Salvadorean nun gave birth to a baby boy in the small Italian city of Reiti—and named him Francis, apparently a tribute to the pope. The 31-year-old called an ambulance Wednesday morning, reporting abdominal pains, which she believed were stomach cramps, according to the BBC. Until the very end the nun insisted she was unaware of her pregnancy. "It's not possible, I'm a nun," she told doctors, according to Italian press reports cited by the Telegraph. But it appears her fellow nuns aren’t quite buying that it could have been a virgin birth. “It seems she was not able to resist temptation,” said the convent's mother superior, Sister Erminia.

Regardless of how she got pregnant, some seem willing to believe she had no idea she was pregnant. "I guess she's telling the truth when she says she arrived at the hospital unaware of the pregnancy,” a local pastor, Don Fabrizio Borrello, told journalsits, noting the nun plans to keep the baby. The nun, whose name wasn’t released, belongs to the “Little Disciples of Jesus” convent, which is in charge of managing an old people’s home, notes the AFP. She likely won’t be there for long. "It would be preferable that she now lead a secular life with her baby, away from religious institutions," said a spokesman for Delio Lucarelli, bishop of Rieti.

Last year, the British Medical Journal published a long-term study on reproductive health that found almost 1 percent of young women in a U.S. study claimed they got pregnant despite never having sex nor using assisted reproductive technologies. Of the 5,340 women who reported pregnancy, 45—or 0.8 percent—reported a virgin pregnancy.

Daniel Politi has been contributing to Slate since 2004 and wrote the "Today's Papers" column from 2006 to 2009. You can follow him on Twitter @dpoliti.


 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
33. A couple of simple DNA tests would sort that out very quickly
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 09:12 AM
Feb 2014

If the baby's DNA isn't an exact match to the mother's, there is denial or massive ignorance involved.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
37. So the nun loses her job, but if she were a priest she'd get quietly moved to another parish
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:29 AM
Feb 2014

Oh, but wait, she can't be a priest.

Nevermind.

jeanliberty90

(14 posts)
26. Not necessarily...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:51 PM
Feb 2014

Catholics schools can hire non-Catholic teachers. They also have non-Catholic members of the student body.

Demobrat

(8,986 posts)
15. Live by the rightwing religious nuts,
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:17 PM
Feb 2014

die by the rightwing religious nuts. She knew who she worked for.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
16. of course, they also don't want her to have access to contraceptives...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:17 PM
Feb 2014

...that might have prevented her pregnancy unless she specifically wanted to become pregnant. The clue train has left the station.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. this woman's life is her own
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:29 PM
Feb 2014

she doesn't have to be married to have kids. What religious nonsense.

Demobrat

(8,986 posts)
25. She does if she want to continue
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:41 PM
Feb 2014

to collect a paycheck from rightwing religious nuts. That's the bargain she made.

demigoddess

(6,644 posts)
23. I would like to see their faces
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:06 PM
Feb 2014

if she said she had been raped and had refused to get an abortion. Would they still want her fired?? Just can't satisfy some people.

Demobrat

(8,986 posts)
24. Of course they would.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:37 PM
Feb 2014

In cases of legitimate rape the female body has a way of shutting that whole conception thing down, remember? So her child CANT be a product of rape.

That said, I'm having trouble feeling sorry for this woman. She was happy enough to be part of the problem until what went around came around.

VMA131Marine

(4,145 posts)
27. One other thing about Catholic schools
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:10 PM
Feb 2014

Most of them won't take kids with special needs like Down Syndrome or autism. Oh, they'll insist that abortion is not the answer and, as the father of a five year old with DS, I'm on their side of that argument. But forget about trying to get such a child into their schools. They are quite happy to plead a lack of resources and point you to a public school.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
28. Had she simply molested or raped a little boy she probably would
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:15 PM
Feb 2014

have been transferred to another school; the whole unsavory episode swept under the rug and the victim portrayed as the instigator.

Say three Hail Mary's and be on your way.

brooklynite

(94,702 posts)
38. I seem to remember a story about an unmarried woman giving birth.....
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:53 AM
Feb 2014

...and the Catholic Church idolized her for it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
39. Arguably she was married
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 12:59 PM
Feb 2014

Mary and Joseph completed marriage rites, but just had not consummated the marriage. Whether or not that means they are married depends on whether or not you consider a couple married before they do the old in-and-out.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
42. And they tell us there's no war on women????!!!
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:18 PM
Feb 2014

Good grief. If the Catholic Church loves the fetus so much, one would think they'd want the mother to have a job to be able to provide food for the child once born.

This may not be illegal if she had signed a contract, but that doesn't mean that it should not be.

Having a job - any job - should not mean that you have to give up your personal life. Having a job should only mean how you conduct yourself during working hours.

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