Christie and Lt Gov Guadagno's thugs and bullies. The people of your city are proud of you.

"Call my lawyer at 203-555-1212"

other evidence. If indicted, he will get to see the documents. There are other ways he can get to see them. We shall see if he goes that far. He just has to be patient.

Absent any indictment, I don't think the gov can subpoena anything or anyone and I highly doubt the US Atty will tip his hand prematurely.

there is an indictment. As of right now it is still an open investigation & they aren't entitled to shit, once the investigation is completed an ROI is done they have other options.

There is no reason for them to give them anything especially if there is a potential for it to disrupt the investigation. It's also very hypocritical for them to demand anything when his shop refuses to produce requested documents.

Sticks and stones may hurt bones BUT the truth will take Christie down.

if not predictable.

kindergarten if they have to. Kinder-gate!!!111

".... declined the invitation."

She knows who's "serious" and who is not.

Hello! ..

“We question whether it is appropriate for the Governor’s Office, in essence, to be investigating itself, particularly when an investigation of the same subject matter is being conducted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office,” Zimmer’s attorney wrote in a reply letter sent to Mastro on Thursday. The Christie administration and Guadagno have denied Zimmer’s claims."

thanks George

There was zero chance of anyone complying with this request so the only thing I can see is that Mastro is taking this opportunity for character assassination charges and sure enough here they are: “Diary Raises Questions of Authenticity” and “Pot Calling The Kettle Black.”.

(I didn't realize anybody used that "pot" phrase anymore since some view it as racist).

People used to cook on the hearth. The pots and kettle got very black. It is an old expression generally used at least in the Midwest. My family used it, and they were abolitionists way back when, not racists.

Making it easy to see why some would call it racist. Cleaning it up a little bit doesn't make it any better.

heard that anywhere. And I lived in the South for some years.

As generally understood, the person accusing (the "pot&quot is understood to share some quality with the target of their accusation (the "kettle&quot . The pot is mocking the kettle for a little soot when the pot itself is thoroughly covered in the same.

An alternative interpretation, recognised by some,[1][2] but not all,[3] sources is that the pot is sooty (being placed on a fire), while the kettle is clean and shiny (being placed on coals only), and hence when the pot accuses the kettle of being black, it is the pot’s own sooty reflection that it sees: the pot accuses the kettle of a fault that only the pot has, rather than one that they share. This is also an outdated statement, since most pots & kettles are of metallic or ceramic materials. (See also: Psychological Projection)

The following poem can be found in the schoolbook Maxwell's Elementary Grammar from 1904.

"Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."

"Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
That your blackness is mirrored in me."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

It's about a pot and a kettle and has no racist connotations in the usages I have heard. It is an extremely common expression. Nor every reference to "black" is racist. Far from it.

That was the context I heard as a kid. In other words, don't act like that. It's why I never use it and why I was surprised to hear it here. Cleaning it up didn't make it right in my mind either, as I heard it later. Not sure of which side of my family that came from. Both parents were born in the Midwest but my mom spent some of her youth in eastern Oklahoma before returning to the Midwest.

is the first I've heard use that interpretation.

...in my life. In fact I've heard it a number of times on television. There was a song by the group "Small Sins" about it.

Even the Urban Dictionary has a non-ethnic/racial definition:

pot calling the kettle black

This is a phrase that states that the person you are talking to is calling you something that they themselves are (and generally in abundance).

This comes from old times when pots and pans were generally black and kettles were generally metallic and reflective. Therefore the pot sees its black reflection in the kettle and thinks that the kettle is black.

*this can also sometimes be shortened to "pot, kettle, black."*

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pot%20calling%20the%20kettle%20black

...it must be racist!

Is much more popular today, is more concise and doesn't carry baggage.

The phrase has been twisted and expanded over the centuries, appearing in forms like “pot, meet kettle.”

Some people believe that the phrase is racist

The variation you cite, that adds the word 'ass', is not a phrase familiarly known. I grew up in a fiercely white neighborhood, in a large east coast city not known for serenely untroubled race relations, and I never heard your variation. I grew up ALWAYS understanding that 'pot calling the kettle black' was an example of laughable hypocrisy. 'It takes one to know one' doesn't say exactly the same thing.

I think it's generally accepted that the word 'black' can describe things other than skin, or people. Whoever the people are who mistakenly believe the phrase is racist because it includes the word 'black' should have it explained to them that no, it isn't, and there's no need to pressure people to stop using a perfectly good metaphor just because of their own imperfect understanding of it.

Orrrrrr...... now that I think about it, maybe that's not such a bad idea. She can record it all for the feds.

- Even better, she could invite them to sit-in......

K&R


''Boy, am I truly innocent! I had no
way of knowing all those people I
hired to work for me were incompetent.
Anybody could have made that mistake!
And that stupid brother of mine is
just stoopid!! Always was. Dammit,
you take a few friendly pokes at a
couple small burg mayors these days
and they want to crucify you for it.
There's no fun being governor if you
can't even do that. And I'm really such
a nice guy underneath.....''

this does not appear to be the reaction of an innocent person. I get it, NOW you're interested in getting to the bottom of this.

What do you want to bet that's the team Christie assembled for his defense?

Wow! Take it from me. Christie's scared, really scared -- five former federal prosecutors? Do you know what that would cost on an hourly basis? Wohoo! Gonna have some rich lawyers before the Christie case is over.

Absolutely nothing. I hope they feel they are getting their money's worth. Amazing how many high-priced, high-powered lawyers that political corruption charges can support. And New Jersey supports more than most.

That's 5 former prosecutors fighting amongst themselves. Christie is petrified from fear.

higher poll numbers for Christie who didn't want his race on the Booker ticket. Christie has proven time and again he doesn't care about New Jersey's finances. He only cares about getting Koch's money and sometimes that looks like fiscal concern to the voters.

defense in most cases.

Right now they're entitled to bupkis.

I see what is going on here they want the documents from the Mayor just so they can do a hit job on her

Plus who the hell does the Christie Administration think they are anyway shes not obligated to talk to them.The US Prosecutor has instructed her not to do interviews.As I said they want to know what she's turned in so they can go to the media and do a hit peice on her.Doesn't sound like there innocent to me with there tactics.