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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 12:58 PM Feb 2014

Home Builder Sentiment Index Logs Sharpest Drop Ever

Last edited Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNBC

Sentiment among the nation's home builders fell dramatically in February, and while builders blame much of it on the weather, that is not the whole picture. Confidence fell 10 points, according to the National Association of Home Builders' monthly sentiment index, from 56 to 46—the largest drop in the history of the survey, which started in 1985.

Fifty is the line between positive and negative sentiment. The index has not been below 50 since May.

"Significant weather conditions across most of the country led to a decline in buyer traffic last month," said the association's chairman Kevin Kelly, a home builder and developer from Wilmington, Del. "Builders also have additional concerns about meeting ongoing and future demand due to a shortage of lots and labor."

Of the three index components, current sales conditions fell 11 points to 51, buyer traffic fell 9 points to 31 and future sales expectations fell 6 points to 54.

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101423771

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Home Builder Sentiment Index Logs Sharpest Drop Ever (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2014 OP
What does this mean? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2014 #1
Oops, link is wrong DLnyc Feb 2014 #2
Thanks. Too many tabs opens. Purveyor Feb 2014 #3
No problem DLnyc Feb 2014 #5
Weather does account for a chunk of the drop Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #4
I don't give a damn about new homes DURHAM D Feb 2014 #6
+1. I hate how liberals (not the OP) spread increase in new homes as a positive. n/t Dawgs Feb 2014 #7
New home construction means construction jobs, major appliance WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #10
I would agree if new homes were replacing old ones. They are not. Dawgs Feb 2014 #11
Those empty homes are what the REITs are buying - by WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #12
Still don't get it. Dawgs Feb 2014 #13
I read somewhere, not too long ago Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2014 #8
Due to a shortage of...labor? sybylla Feb 2014 #9
the (demand) well has dried up. quadrature Feb 2014 #14
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
3. Thanks. Too many tabs opens.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Feb 2014

I have this great fear that someday I am going to link to something that is totally embarrassing.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
6. I don't give a damn about new homes
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:49 PM
Feb 2014

given there are plenty of previously owned homes that need to be sold and occupied. When the old inventory numbers drop to zero I will start to care.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
10. New home construction means construction jobs, major appliance
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:31 PM
Feb 2014

sales, new tax revenue; in short, economic security for all those in jobs relating to the creation and sale of new homes. New homes are also far more energy efficient than old homes, and use renewable resources in their construction. If a new home replaces an old home, more often than not these days material from the old home is reused; either in the new home or sold to retailers who resell the material. New home construction is a barometer of how many feel about the near term economic conditions in this country; so yes, it's an important indicator. One of many.

I'm not seeing a whole lot here that isn't a net positive. Not sure how anyone can hate a different perspective, but to each their own.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
11. I would agree if new homes were replacing old ones. They are not.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:43 PM
Feb 2014

Many people that currently own a home are having a hard time selling because they have to compete with newly built McMansion neighborhoods.

Over 10% of homes in America are vacant. It's not because they are all old or aren't energy efficient. It's because there are too many homes on the market.

Many are new apartment buildings that can't find tenants.

Those empty homes attract criminals and are an eyesore for neighbors. They also lower the property values of surrounding properties in many communities.

Yes, new homes are great for jobs and short-term security. I mean what could be wrong with creating a housing bubble, right?

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
12. Those empty homes are what the REITs are buying - by
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:17 PM
Feb 2014

the tens of thousands. They will be rented, and in time resold. The REITs aren't going to dump them on the market all at once, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. I see no danger of a bubble.

Cities that have entire neighborhoods of empty homes are bulldozing them. Those areas too will be re-purposed. Probably rezoned for commercial or light manufacturing.

The average size of a new home in America is just under 2,500 sq ft. - not my definition of a McMansion. Once you get three decent sized bedrooms, two bathrooms, a laundry room, plus kitchen and living areas, you've got yourself 2,500 sq ft of house to clean.

Many, many people simply don't like old homes, and the problems that come with them. There is nothing "wrong" with that; it's a personal preference. Your personal preference may be 180 degrees different; but that's what makes America great. We're not stuck buying what someone else tells us to just because it's their preference.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
13. Still don't get it.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:55 AM
Feb 2014

Families own those "old homes" (most are not filled with problems) and can't get rid of them because the new builds exist. And because of that many people are forced to have to rent their home, foreclose, or stay put until they can sell it for a lower price.

If greedy people didn't buy up land to bulldoze for new neighborhoods (a whole other problem) those people trying to sell their homes could freely move and buy somewhere else-a good thing for society and a growing economy.

It sounds like you work for a home builder. Do you?

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
8. I read somewhere, not too long ago
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:36 PM
Feb 2014

That since last last summer there has been a notable increase in cash purchases of homes and decline of new mortgage applications, which could mean that those who are doing well are back to upgrading to bigger homes, or that wealthy foreigners are investing in houses in gentrifying and exclusive areas.

sybylla

(8,512 posts)
9. Due to a shortage of...labor?
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 03:38 PM
Feb 2014

Either home builders in general are clueless or it's this guy they put in charge.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
14. the (demand) well has dried up.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:08 AM
Feb 2014

decades of stimulus from various presidents.
zero% interest rates.
quantitative easing.
etc.

demand has dried up

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