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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:14 PM Feb 2014

Venezuelans take to streets for rival mass rallies

Source: AFP

Tens of thousands of supporters and opponents of Venezuela's government took to the streets of Caracas Saturday amid fears of more violence in the bitterly divided country.

The competing mass rallies in the Venezuela-- the second in days -- follow weeks of often bloody marches that have claimed at least nine lives and injured 140 others.

Heeding the call of opposition leader Henrique Capriles, governor of Miranda state and former presidential candidate, anti-government protesters massed near a shopping mall in the Caracas neighborhood of Sucre.

They were expected to demonstrate both in the capital and country-wide against armed groups accused of intimidating and even attacking demonstrators.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-threatens-cut-off-fuel-protest-areas-205822959.html

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Venezuelans take to streets for rival mass rallies (Original Post) Zorro Feb 2014 OP
If we have our nose in this we should get out NOW. jwirr Feb 2014 #1
Venezuela SamKnause Feb 2014 #2
There's no proof that this is a US backed protest, springchick Feb 2014 #3
You are correct. Perseus Feb 2014 #11
That's the way they want it. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #14
It's too late fasttense Feb 2014 #7
They would come and get you if you had facts, but not when you are making stuff up Perseus Feb 2014 #12
Who has seen specific lines in the federal budget? There is no line item veto, either. Sigh... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #13
Black budgets and projects..... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #15
You are one of them fasttense Feb 2014 #18
You do understand that you're on a message board about politics penultimate Feb 2014 #19
According to him/her, springchick Feb 2014 #20
This DU post adds important info: dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #4
Esp. this little gem from the linked article: EX500rider Feb 2014 #22
In Venezuela, if it isn't one million people it isn't a newsworthy demonstration. Coyotl Feb 2014 #5
And here in the US too. zeemike Feb 2014 #8
There you go again "Coyotl", you are either a Chavista or lack real knowledge of Venezuela Perseus Feb 2014 #9
That kind of puts the last nail in one coffin, proving that the RW 1% has a hand in instigating Zorra Feb 2014 #6
Please get informed Perseus Feb 2014 #10
.... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #16
Reinforcements are arriving daily. Zorra Feb 2014 #21
Very good job countering the points he made..u convinced me! n/t EX500rider Feb 2014 #23
Here is a picture of one of the "Revolutionaries" who detest the oligarchy Perseus Feb 2014 #17
 

springchick

(137 posts)
3. There's no proof that this is a US backed protest,
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:47 PM
Feb 2014

it appears that this is frustration towards the crumbling economy, high violent crime rate and the lack of the govt to address the problems.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. You are correct.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:40 PM
Feb 2014

The reason the government doesn't address the problem is because they created the problem.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
7. It's too late
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

the US and their anti-socialist government fears are all over these protests against the current president.

Our tax dollars are supporting anti-government protesters. There is a line item in Obama's budget for support to opposition parties. And they are widely using that money to stir up upper middle class students.

Ok cyber stalkers, all of you, come get me.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Who has seen specific lines in the federal budget? There is no line item veto, either. Sigh... n/t
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:49 PM
Feb 2014
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
18. You are one of them
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:05 AM
Feb 2014

You were the 1st to reply. You just can't help yourself, can you? Got to get your digs in and your post count up.

Get the rest of them to reply so I can get all their screen names .

Thanks

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
19. You do understand that you're on a message board about politics
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:02 PM
Feb 2014

and you're making political posts, and that people will not always agree with you, right?

 

springchick

(137 posts)
20. According to him/her,
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:07 PM
Feb 2014

there's a group of "us" that are dedicated to just attack any post of his/her on this subject.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
22. Esp. this little gem from the linked article:
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:41 PM
Feb 2014

"The current problems have more to do with the successes rather than the failures of Chavismo."

Wow, takes chutzpah to say that with a straight face..

Over 50% inflation, highest murder rate in South America by far, 10 TIMES the US rate, shortages of basic necessities and electricity and medicines...currency controls that limit you access to foreign currency, brain drain and capital flight...

And those are the successes? What the heck do the failures look like?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. In Venezuela, if it isn't one million people it isn't a newsworthy demonstration.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:32 PM
Feb 2014

Tens of thousands is "I'm not impressed." But, I'm impressed with the way the wing-nut propagandistas are all up in arms and screaming for anarchy after losing two recent elections.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. And here in the US too.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

They want that oil...the way they see it it is there oil money being distributed to the unwashed brown people and that is just an outrage.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. There you go again "Coyotl", you are either a Chavista or lack real knowledge of Venezuela
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:25 PM
Feb 2014

Do you even speak Spanish?

If you don't, then find a translator who can tell you what the people on this blog are saying, some of these people are from "El 23 de Enero", and I won't tell you what that is because if you are so knowledgeable then you must know what it is. If you speak Spanish then read it and become informed.

If you are a Chavista then I know I am wasting my time with you.

These are people from all social levels writing very well and with sense, without the hate just looking for solutions, the suffering of the people from Venezuela is not a joke, and the lack of support that Maduro and his regime have is what has them scared and why they prefer violence.

LINK:

http://www.panfletonegro.com/v/2014/02/17/sobre-el-23-de-enero/?fb_action_ids=10151936274156889&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[626204894101893]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
6. That kind of puts the last nail in one coffin, proving that the RW 1% has a hand in instigating
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:08 PM
Feb 2014

the unrest.

"Heeding the call of opposition leader Henrique Capriles, governor of Miranda state and former presidential candidate, anti-government protesters massed near a shopping mall in the Caracas neighborhood of Sucre."

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. Please get informed
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:39 PM
Feb 2014

Capriles has been against the protests, this started because in Merida students came out to have a peaceful protest, the regime incarcerated and tortured some of the students, so things got bigger.

Leopoldo Lopez became involved to give his support to the students who started this, if you like "ground root" movements, then this is it, these student were not incited by anyone, people are just fed up of the corruption, the insecurity and the lack of basic needs.

Venezuelans are scared to go out of their homes after 06:00pm because the criminals, although they operate 24/7, are in abundance at night. Most people have been robbed and many killed, there is no impunity. The government during the first years of Chavez armed these militia, and most of these people had criminal records. I am not making this up, people get killed there everyday by common criminals.

Hospitals do not have medicines, many doctors have fled the country, there is not enough food and basic needs in the supermarkets, no toilet paper, the electricity goes out almost everyday, the regime is extremely corrupt.

Do your homework and then make a decision of what you think the truth is, but make sure that you find the facts. The regime has put out some information out there to make it look like nothings is happening and they used pictures from other places to "prove" that the opposition is making things up, it is all a lie.

Everything Fidel Castro did to Cuba is what Chavez/Maduro have done to Venezuela, talk to anyone from Cuba who came to the USA, and the will confirm the symptoms are the same.

Anyway, you believe whatever you want to believe.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
17. Here is a picture of one of the "Revolutionaries" who detest the oligarchy
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:07 AM
Feb 2014

Total hypocrisy and false rhetoric, this is how Chavez daughters and friends live:

Se picó porque le dijeron “burguesita” en #DebateCNN y tiene sus FOTOS en Ferraris y yates
febrero 21, 2014 3:37 pmPublicado en: Curiosidades, Titulares
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La estudiante bolivariana María Gabriela Pulido se molestó con sus compañeros opositores durante el debate que CNN en Español realizó en la noche de este jueves por haberla llamado “burguesita”.
Como todo joven que gusta sacarse fotografías cuando se acerca a la “dolce vita”, María Gabriela también tiene las suyas y en el mundo web, todo lo que se comparte se hace público.
Aquí la vemos viajando en peñeros “fashion”, montada en la maleta de una flamante Ferrari y, como no, viajando fuera del país.
Conocer no es un delito, que te digan “burguesito” tampoco, ¿o sí?
Delito es llamar al “ataque fulminante” y que mueran venezolanos, y nada.
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Not sure that the photo can be copied, just go to Facebook and find "María Gabriela Pulido"

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