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US psychologist's association rejects ban on aiding military interrogations (Original Post) bobthedrummer Feb 2014 OP
There's a lot of background fighting going on about this. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #1
I hope they do JR. Btw Nadine Kaslow is a University of Houston grad (1983) who teaches at Emory bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #2
A lot of psychologists already have. TM99 Feb 2014 #9
So far I've kept my membership. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #10
For now, I also retain membership TM99 Feb 2014 #13
There just so happens to be an active thread in Good Reads that is related to this APA LBN bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #3
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2014 #4
boo !! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #5
I'm not exactly sure what you're Booing. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #11
K&R nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #6
essentially further validating the Milgram experiment yurbud Feb 2014 #7
"We don't torture..." The Third Reich medical profession repeated the same lie. Some states today bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #8
Majority votes in favor, but fails to get it on the groups agenda bananas Feb 2014 #12

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. There's a lot of background fighting going on about this.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:22 PM
Feb 2014

A lot of psychologists are threatening to leave the APA over their failure to take a stance against psychologists participating in torture interrogations.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
2. I hope they do JR. Btw Nadine Kaslow is a University of Houston grad (1983) who teaches at Emory
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:33 PM
Feb 2014

on edit: Kaslow is the current APA President

http://www.uh.edu/class/psychology/news/archive/2013/alumni-news/index.php

I wonder if she ever tortured/was tortured by any of the thousand points of light down there.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
9. A lot of psychologists already have.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:29 AM
Feb 2014

I am doing so myself. I have been to war. I have seen what is accepted as an OK atrocity. I see the wounded men and women when I counsel at the VA.

I no longer take insurance so that is not an issue. But standing up like this will threaten quite a few of us professionally. How will it affect those of us who work at the VA? How will it affect those of us with teaching positions in psychology programs approved and accredited by the APA? How will it affect those of us who supervise interns in APA accredited programs.

Irregardless of the consequences, the continued acceptance of torture by the APA is appalling, unprofessional, and personally disgusting. It must end.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
10. So far I've kept my membership.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:23 PM
Feb 2014

For one thing, as an independent forensic practitioner in the boonies, I need the online journal access. I did the war gig too, Vietnam in '67-68.

You do raise some "interesting" questions about the consequences of dropping APA. I do know that the VA won't hire psychologists from non-accredited programs, but don't see how they can require APA membership for employment. Also, I know of nothing that requires faculty or supervisors in approved graduate & internship programs to be APA members, but I've been out of touch with that world for decades.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
13. For now, I also retain membership
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:18 AM
Feb 2014

but I am inches away from cutting them over this.

They are questions several of us do have. They may not be 'direct' requirements, but many may loose those positions 'for other reasons' or may not get new ones because they are not a part of the 'in group'. I have seen that with a few MD friends I know who are not AMA members.

Agreeably, we don't know yet the consequences, and I truly hope that more members will make this stain disappear.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
3. There just so happens to be an active thread in Good Reads that is related to this APA LBN
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:42 PM
Feb 2014

What Cold War CIA Interrogators Learned From The Nazis
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101685134

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
8. "We don't torture..." The Third Reich medical profession repeated the same lie. Some states today
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:25 PM
Feb 2014

continue to use psychiatric care as a shield to torture dissidents and others. This include post-9/11 America.

In Contravention of Conventional Wisdom (Cheryl Welsh 2008)
http://mindjustice.org/wisdom.htm

bananas

(27,509 posts)
12. Majority votes in favor, but fails to get it on the groups agenda
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:44 PM
Feb 2014

"Majority of American Psychological Association's legislative body votes in favor, but fails to get it on the groups agenda"

It's not who votes that count, it's who obstructs the vote from being counted.

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