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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:54 PM Feb 2014

Jan Brewer Announces Veto Of Arizona Anti-Gay Bill SB 1062

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) announced her decision to veto legislation on Wednesday that would have allowed businesses to legally refuse service to anyone on "religious freedom" grounds, effectively allowing them to discriminate against same-sex couples.

The state legislature passed the bill, known as SB 1062, last week. But in recent days, it has come under intense criticism from activists, lawmakers and business interests both in Arizona and nationally. The state's two Republican senators, Jeff Flake and John McCain, called on Brewer to veto it, and major corporations like Marriott, Apple and American Airlines all wrote to the governor and expressed their opposition.

Businesses in the Phoenix area were also especially worried, with the Super Bowl set to be held in nearby Tempe in 2015. On Monday, the Arizona Super Bowl Host Committee came out against SB 1062, stating, "[W]e have heard loud and clear from our various stakeholders that adoption of this legislation would not only run contrary to that goal but deal a significant blow to the state's economic growth potential. We do not support this legislation."

Arizona hasn't been the only state pushing a bill that would allow open discrimination against same-sex couples; similar bills have been popping up in states including Tennessee, Kansas, South Dakota and Maine.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/26/jan-brewer-vetoes_n_4854003.html

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Jan Brewer Announces Veto Of Arizona Anti-Gay Bill SB 1062 (Original Post) onehandle Feb 2014 OP
Damn you people are quick! nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2014 #1
Can the legislative GP6971 Feb 2014 #2
I'm pretty sure they can. Archae Feb 2014 #20
They may be crazy enough GP6971 Feb 2014 #30
They don't have the votes in the Senate dbackjon Feb 2014 #58
good, but it's sad that it took it "being bad for business" to get opposition JI7 Feb 2014 #3
Well of course! AngryDem001 Feb 2014 #43
So, what State IS gonna pass this odious POS "Biblical law" legislation FIRST? blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #4
I hope Georgia Gov. Deal follows suit and vetoes the bill. n/t RebelOne Feb 2014 #21
NC probably will pass one. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #51
And heres the moment. William769 Feb 2014 #5
Good move on Brewer's part! She should be commended. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #6
If she did it on principal... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #10
To a Republican, it's all the same thing Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #19
At this point Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #26
+1 Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #29
Same here. Good to see all the business pressure helped though. For once big $ groups did something fujiyama Feb 2014 #42
Yeah... Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #49
I am not aware that she has any principlas,,intelligent ones, anyway. pangaia Feb 2014 #36
Good point awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #46
No, it was 1971 demwing Feb 2014 #52
Really, Oh. I was wrong again, the. pangaia Feb 2014 #54
And she let it drag on, as though there were ANY arguments that could tblue37 Feb 2014 #55
Yeah, LOL... Grassy Knoll Feb 2014 #16
A win for Arizona's LGBT community ChazII Feb 2014 #22
It wasn't a small group Doctor_J Feb 2014 #39
So shouldn't we punish the legislators? ChazII Feb 2014 #45
Exactly dbackjon Feb 2014 #59
Please Scairp Feb 2014 #24
Oh, bullshit. She is just trying to get out from under it politically Doctor_J Feb 2014 #38
why did you attack the Clintons when they were pushing for gay rights ? and yet you think JI7 Feb 2014 #44
The Clintons were doing it for political & financial reasons. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #50
And Brewer didn't? AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #57
How so? Beacool Feb 2014 #63
They need political donations. If they showed their true DOMA-DADT colors, that would dry up. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #65
Nonsense!!! Beacool Feb 2014 #68
Yeah, sure. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #69
...it's all about the money. SoapBox Feb 2014 #7
Yeah, old Bonefinger would never do anything for the right reasons 47of74 Feb 2014 #9
Now we must help our poor broken hearted christo-fascist sistren and brethren pick up Zorra Feb 2014 #8
The Taliboobtists Won't Want to Move to Uganda Wolf Frankula Feb 2014 #11
Very good point, they're already trying to get rid of all the dark skinned folks in the US. nt Zorra Feb 2014 #18
On the one hand, it's huge... Not Me Feb 2014 #12
Good. Now we get to watch NastyRiffraff Feb 2014 #13
*snigger* Skittles Feb 2014 #25
Shows the power of boycotts (and threats to boycott) (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #14
At some point congress will need to pass an amendment to civil rights mn9driver Feb 2014 #15
I thought I'd never say this . . . Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #17
Funny how quickly their "moral objection" Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #23
Sanity prevails. democratisphere Feb 2014 #27
Here's the solution to the lack of punishment for those who passed this bill. truthisfreedom Feb 2014 #28
Didnt want to lose that Super Bowl davidn3600 Feb 2014 #31
Grassroots public PRESSURE made this happen. It shows how far off the rails these right wing RBInMaine Feb 2014 #32
This is a good move, those who sponsored this bill should be ashamed, they should have told those Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #33
Kick pinto Feb 2014 #34
First time I agree with one of her decisions. Beacool Feb 2014 #35
It's really disappointing you disagree with her April 2011 veto of the proposal that anyone 24601 Feb 2014 #37
Oh, sorry.......... Beacool Feb 2014 #41
Just that you had implied some knowledge by noting this was the first agreement the two of you had. 24601 Feb 2014 #48
Any reason why you're so protective of a RW governor? Beacool Feb 2014 #53
I'm approving good decisions regardless of who makes them. And I believe that those who do not, 24601 Feb 2014 #62
Great news! /nt Ash_F Feb 2014 #40
She had to do it. She realized Arizona had to join the 21st Century. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #47
The Tea Party needs to... Xolodno Feb 2014 #56
Money talks don't it? Reminds me of Arizona finally approving MLK Day underpants Feb 2014 #60
Arizona did put the MLK Day on the ballot ChazII Feb 2014 #64
Thanks- more from Wikipedia- nasty history with Arizona and MLK Day underpants Feb 2014 #70
Wikipedia left out a few crucial facts ChazII Feb 2014 #71
Chuck D - By the Time I Get To Arizona! Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #67
K&R! countryjake Feb 2014 #61
It's not just couples trickyguy Feb 2014 #66

Archae

(46,340 posts)
20. I'm pretty sure they can.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:35 PM
Feb 2014

But I doubt they will.
Just too many groups against this bill.

This bill would have opened a floodgate to those who want to discriminate for "religious" reasons, not serving blacks, Hispanics, ugly people, etc.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
58. They don't have the votes in the Senate
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:04 PM
Feb 2014

It passed 17-13. And three of the yes votes later asked Brewer to veto.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
3. good, but it's sad that it took it "being bad for business" to get opposition
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:01 PM
Feb 2014

rather than being bad because it treats certain humans as less equal.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
4. So, what State IS gonna pass this odious POS "Biblical law" legislation FIRST?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:02 PM
Feb 2014

There are 20 more Republican-dominated States pushing this TRASH in their legislatures right now!!!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
51. NC probably will pass one.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:45 AM
Feb 2014

I KNOW NC cannot be far behind trying to come up with something like this. With McCrory as governor and all his Teabagger buddies in the NC legislature, it will be a shoo in.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. To a Republican, it's all the same thing
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:34 PM
Feb 2014

I agree, she did it for money, but not her money. Arizona was going to lose some business over this. That should be of concern to her, regardless of party affiliation or any other factor that had us our breath until she actually signed her veto message.

Dorian Gray

(13,498 posts)
26. At this point
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:55 PM
Feb 2014

I don't even care why she did it. It's the right thing to do, and I'm thankful she did it.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
42. Same here. Good to see all the business pressure helped though. For once big $ groups did something
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:00 AM
Feb 2014

positive!

Besides, AZ's teapublican whackos are so out there they might try to unseat her for this. I don't remember is she term limited? If she is running again, she can expect a challenger...

Dorian Gray

(13,498 posts)
49. Yeah...
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:28 AM
Feb 2014

who would have guessed. I think the NFL saying they'd look at other venues for the Superbowl if they did this hurt, big.

I actually think that there were quite a few Arizonians who were appalled at this potentially being signed into law. At least the few who I know who live there were.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
36. I am not aware that she has any principlas,,intelligent ones, anyway.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:49 PM
Feb 2014

Could be wrong..I was wrong once before.. back in,...1972, I believe it was.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
54. Really, Oh. I was wrong again, the.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:36 AM
Feb 2014

The older I get the more times I think I remember I was right..in the past tense..
or something like that.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
22. A win for Arizona's LGBT community
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:44 PM
Feb 2014

but for many here in Arizona it is a loss. We lose because folks still want to punish us for the way a small group of people tried to pass this bill and ignoring those who fought against this bill. We lose because people still said they would not step foot in Arizona if SB1062 passed are still refusing to step foot in AZ. Damned either way.

Yes, I am happy and gave a loud shout over her veto. On the other hand I am pissed at those folks who still feel AZ needs to be punished. (Beating a dead horse.)

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
39. It wasn't a small group
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:13 PM
Feb 2014

it was a solid majority of your legislature. The only way we have to deter this behavior is to punish the perpetrators.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
45. So shouldn't we punish the legislators?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:28 AM
Feb 2014

I guess you're okay with punishing those who fought back, sent letters, phoned and held rallies in front of the capitol building.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
24. Please
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:50 PM
Feb 2014

She didn't do because it's wrong, she did it because the state legislators has gone too far and will alienate too many, costing AZ money. Plus the NFL was making noises about the possibility of moving the Super Bowl to another state next year.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
38. Oh, bullshit. She is just trying to get out from under it politically
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:12 PM
Feb 2014

get a clue, for christ sake.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
44. why did you attack the Clintons when they were pushing for gay rights ? and yet you think
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:24 AM
Feb 2014

brewer should be commended .

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
68. Nonsense!!!
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:10 AM
Feb 2014

DOMA was a compromise against many in Congress who wanted an amendment to the Constitution. This is not the 90s, it's a different world now. Back then only a minority of people approved of gay marriage. As for DADT, one of Clinton's first acts in office was his attempt to lift the ban of gays in the military. It failed miserably and cost the Democrats its majority in Congress in 1994.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
8. Now we must help our poor broken hearted christo-fascist sistren and brethren pick up
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:12 PM
Feb 2014

the pieces of their shattered dreams of a country where their hate is legally sanctioned.

Hey, I have an idea!!! We can all pitch in and donate to help move all the US christo-fascists to Uganda, where they will fit right in, and bring the oppressed Ugandan LGBT's back to the US on the return flight.

A win-win for everyone!

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
11. The Taliboobtists Won't Want to Move to Uganda
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:17 PM
Feb 2014

It's full of them, you know dark people. Also it's not nearly hot enough.

Wolf

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
12. On the one hand, it's huge...
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:21 PM
Feb 2014

It shows that 85% of the people in the state believed it to be a flawed, discriminatory law. And that people and corporations will not tolerate it.

BUT,
in the end, her veto gives the cretins who voted for this cred in the eyes of their tea bag constituents. Just like the far right Congresspeople who voted 44 times to overturn the ACA, knowing it wasn't going anywhere, they can go back to their rabid base and say, "I tried, but she vetoed it."

mn9driver

(4,427 posts)
15. At some point congress will need to pass an amendment to civil rights
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:26 PM
Feb 2014

To include sexual orientation/identity as a protected class. That's the only way to put an end to this hateful nonsense.

Of course that means it will need to pass the House, the Senate and be signed by whoever is President. There's a lot of work to do to make that happen.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
17. I thought I'd never say this . . .
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:27 PM
Feb 2014

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truthisfreedom

(23,151 posts)
28. Here's the solution to the lack of punishment for those who passed this bill.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:01 PM
Feb 2014

Find out who they are and distribute names and clear photos to all restaurants and other establishments they were hell-bent on giving discrimination rights to, so they can be easily identified and refused service. They should be wearing scarlet AGs for Anti-Gay.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
32. Grassroots public PRESSURE made this happen. It shows how far off the rails these right wing
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:18 PM
Feb 2014

state legislators have gone.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
33. This is a good move, those who sponsored this bill should be ashamed, they should have told those
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:23 PM
Feb 2014

who requested the bill this is not what America should be doing. If Cathi Herrod is religious she is not following the teachings of Jesus of love thy neighbor. BTW, does this group think God made mistakes when one is gay? Nope, don't think so.

24601

(3,962 posts)
37. It's really disappointing you disagree with her April 2011 veto of the proposal that anyone
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:02 PM
Feb 2014

running for President must have proof of U.S. citizenship.

It's also disappointing you disagree with her April 2011 veto of a bill which allowed guns on college campuses.

I really hadn't put you in the Birther or Campus Gun camps. Oh well....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Brewer

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
41. Oh, sorry..........
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:52 PM
Feb 2014

I didn't know that I was supposed to know all of Brewer's legislative history. I live in NJ, I don't particularly give a crap about what goes on in AZ.

24601

(3,962 posts)
48. Just that you had implied some knowledge by noting this was the first agreement the two of you had.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 03:19 AM
Feb 2014

As if there were others with which you disagreed. Didn't know you were one for one.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
53. Any reason why you're so protective of a RW governor?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:36 AM
Feb 2014

Every time I have seen this woman on TV she's either talking about illegal immigrants or wagging a finger at Obama. If you like her, that's your prerogative, but she's no friend to Democrats.

24601

(3,962 posts)
62. I'm approving good decisions regardless of who makes them. And I believe that those who do not,
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:22 PM
Feb 2014

sacrifice values for the sake of shallow, transient partisanship.

I will applaud a (D), (R), (I) or other who does good and will take to task those who do not.

Wouldn't you?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
47. She had to do it. She realized Arizona had to join the 21st Century.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:12 AM
Feb 2014

Now, if only Joe Arpaio would just wither up and blow off into the desert.

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
56. The Tea Party needs to...
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:22 PM
Feb 2014

...Primary Her...and any Republican State legislator that doesn't call for her impeachment.







I wrote that in jest....

...but suddenly I feel evil.

underpants

(182,849 posts)
60. Money talks don't it? Reminds me of Arizona finally approving MLK Day
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:08 PM
Feb 2014

MLK Day was voted down by the public and , I think, the legislature until the NFL Players Assoc. said - no MLK no Super Bowl. It was passed in the next election.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
64. Arizona did put the MLK Day on the ballot
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:57 PM
Feb 2014

and the public did vote it down. You are correct on your AZ history.

underpants

(182,849 posts)
70. Thanks- more from Wikipedia- nasty history with Arizona and MLK Day
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 04:09 PM
Feb 2014

Former Arizona governor Governor Bruce Babbitt, a Democrat, created the holiday in Arizona by executive order just before he left office in 1986, but his Republican successor Evan Mecham, armed with an attorney general's opinion that Babbitt's order was illegal, rescinded it days after he took office.[11] Mecham subsequently issued his own executive order, setting aside the third Sunday in January as an unpaid holiday to honor King, but it never was recognized by supporters of a paid holiday.

Sen. John McCain (Republican of Arizona) voted against the creation of the holiday to honor King, and later defended Arizona Republican Governor Evan Mecham's rescission of the state holiday in honor of King created by his Democratic predecessor. After his opposition grew increasingly untenable, McCain reversed his position, and encouraged his home state of Arizona to recognize the holiday despite opposition from Mecham.[12] During the 2008 presidential campaign, McCain was criticized for his initial opposition to the measure.

In 1989, the Arizona state legislature replaced Columbus Day with the King holiday.[13] In 1990, Arizonans were given the opportunity to vote to observe an MLK holiday. In 1990 the National Football League threatened to move the Super Bowl that was planned to be in Arizona in 1993 if the MLK holiday was voted down.[13] McCain successfully appealed to former President Ronald Reagan to support the holiday.[14] The state legislature passed a measure to keep both Columbus Day and Martin Luther King Day, but it was too late as 76% of voters rejected the King holiday. Consequently, the state “lost $500 million and the Super Bowl” which moved to Pasadena, California.[13]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr._Day

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
71. Wikipedia left out a few crucial facts
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:16 PM
Feb 2014

Bob Corbin was the Atty. General for Arizona at that time.

The primaries had been held and businessman Bill Schultz (Ind), former Supt. of Public Instruction, Carolyn Warner, (Dem.) and Evan Mecham, car dealer, (Rep.) were called to a meeting with Bob Corbin. At that time he told these three candidates that Babbitt did create an illegal holiday. He told them that, and here is the fact that is always left out, that which ever candidate was elected governor would have to rescind the holiday.

Evan Mecham was not smart and shot himself in the foot more often than not. However, to put the blame completely on him for rescinding MLK Day is unfair. Put the blame on the legislature which failed to pass the holiday to begin with and then on the general public who voted it down. AZ I believe is the only state to vote on the issue. The legislatures in the other states approved of the holiday.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
67. Chuck D - By the Time I Get To Arizona!
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:55 PM
Feb 2014

Public Enemy. "I urinated on a state when I was singing this song."

trickyguy

(769 posts)
66. It's not just couples
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:17 PM
Feb 2014

but it's aimed at any and every LGBT person in the state.
I started calling Arizona the "hate state" but maybe I can put that
somewhat to rest now that this bill has be vetoed.

Maybe some of those businesses still want our business after all.

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