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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:53 PM Feb 2014

California lawmaker convicted of voter fraud allowed to take paid leave

Source: Reuters

A Democratic state senator convicted of eight felonies will be allowed to take a paid leave of absence, angering Republicans who called on Wednesday for his resignation, a move that could weaken Democrats' tenuous hold on their two-thirds majority.

Senator Roderick Wright, who represents parts of Los Angeles and the suburb of Inglewood, was convicted last month of voter fraud and perjury after prosecutors said he did not physically live in the district he represented.

....

For the past year, Democrats have controlled both houses of the state legislature as well as the governorship in California, with large "super-majorities" that allow them to raise taxes and take other actions that require a two-thirds vote.

But Democrats could at least temporarily lose two seats in the senate currently held by Wright and by Ron Calderon, who is under pressure to step down after his recent indictment on corruption charges. Should both lawmakers be unseated, Democrats would be one vote short of a two-thirds majority.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-usa-california-wright-idUSBREA1Q05N20140227

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California lawmaker convicted of voter fraud allowed to take paid leave (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 OP
I say they go to jail & the party takes its hits. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #1
I totally agree LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #2
Agreed 7962 Feb 2014 #4
Wouldn't be that hard to find one crazy Republican to give a small token jeff47 Feb 2014 #12
f**k 2banon Feb 2014 #3
But Rick Santorum got to be a senator AND enroll his kids in school in PA alp227 Feb 2014 #5
Shouldn't be difficult Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #6
Or a Dem Appointed Until Another Election n/t LarryNM Feb 2014 #7
They should resign or be forced to resign or be impeached Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #8
Honesty and ethics either matter or they don't. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #9
Whaaaat? SoapBox Feb 2014 #10
Yes, it's just because they claim he didn't live in his district. SunSeeker Feb 2014 #20
Same here, I live in MB and had never heard anything about the case. denbot Feb 2014 #22
He did the same thing Romney did in Massachusetts. But, IOKIYAR. nt SunSeeker Feb 2014 #11
Nevertheless, "We don't tolerate that shit" is a much stronger statement Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #13
IOKIYAR is NOT the same as saying "They do it too, Nyah, Nyah." SunSeeker Feb 2014 #18
He did it in CA - where we pay attention.... alittlelark Feb 2014 #14
Something I don't understand ripcord Feb 2014 #15
As Steinberg said, the two cases are very different. SunSeeker Feb 2014 #19
It would only be ok if they were republican. Exultant Democracy Feb 2014 #16
Partisan crap like this plays into the conservative meme Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #17
Wasn't there recently a Republican Senator who did the same thing? yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #21

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. I say they go to jail & the party takes its hits.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:57 PM
Feb 2014

Bad in the short term maybe, but it'll help maintain the party's reputation in the long run if they show themselves willing to punish the transgressions of their own.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. Wouldn't be that hard to find one crazy Republican to give a small token
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:00 AM
Feb 2014

The theory behind CA's 2/3rds majority is it would make the government come together more in order to reach that broad a consensus....and make it really hard to raise taxes. Theoretically, the Democrats and the left end of the Republicans would pass the bills.

That didn't happen. Because there were enough crazy Republicans to pass bills with the Democrats, and the crazy ones would vote with the Democrats to get their crazy issue addressed. "Ok, we'll spend $1M investigating your UFO abduction. In return, you'll vote with us"

That is, up until the Democrats got a 2/3rds majority.

alp227

(32,038 posts)
5. But Rick Santorum got to be a senator AND enroll his kids in school in PA
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:12 PM
Feb 2014

despite his family living mostly in Northern Virginia? Or Pat Roberts as senator in Kansas despite dodging Dodge City?

Right wingers: your side has plenty of carpetbaggers too.

 

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)
9. Honesty and ethics either matter or they don't.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:37 PM
Feb 2014

If we do not take the hit on this one we can not insist on ethical conduct from anyone else.

He also makes me very angry. He has put the hard work of many others at risk. We should be in front of this one making sure the public sees we stand for openness and honesty.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. Whaaaat?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:37 PM
Feb 2014

I live in the South Bay and didn't even know about the Wright thing.

So where is he supposedly living? And are his "voter fraud" charges just because he didn't live in his district?

Sheesh.

SunSeeker

(51,587 posts)
20. Yes, it's just because they claim he didn't live in his district.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:23 AM
Feb 2014

See my post #18 below. Sounds like prosecutor overkill, 9 felony charges for one act of living just outside his district boundaries. Wright indisputably does own a house in his district...he just apparently slept in another house he owns just outside his district.

Bad headline by Reuters, IMO.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
22. Same here, I live in MB and had never heard anything about the case.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:43 PM
Feb 2014

I am constantly on the road, but I should have gotten wind of something.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
13. Nevertheless, "We don't tolerate that shit" is a much stronger statement
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:04 AM
Feb 2014

to defend than is "They do it too, Nyah, Nyah."

SunSeeker

(51,587 posts)
18. IOKIYAR is NOT the same as saying "They do it too, Nyah, Nyah."
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 03:44 AM
Feb 2014

Of course we shouldn't tolerate law breaking.

My point is I never see Republicans busted for failing residence requirements, even though they do it at least as often as Dems. In Romney's case it was ridiculously blatant; he claimed to be living in the unfinished basement of his son's house so he could vote in Massachusetts, even though he was actually living in Utah.

Wright actually owned the house he claimed to be living in. He owns several houses in that area, but one of them, the one prosecutors claimed he was living in predominantly, was just outside his district boundaries. It's nothing near as bad as what Romney was doing. Wright wasn't living in another state or even another county. Further, his conviction is not final yet, and he plans to challenge the verdict, on the ground that the jury misapplied the domicile requirements, as the article notes. He is still a state senator. So it is not beyond the pale to let him continue getting his state paycheck.

But hey, feel free to blindly join the GOP in their pile-on.









alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
14. He did it in CA - where we pay attention....
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:19 AM
Feb 2014

...just another corporate sponsorship politician - who Fortunately got busted.

ripcord

(5,466 posts)
15. Something I don't understand
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:04 AM
Feb 2014

Wright was actually convicted of eight felonies but the Senate President Pro Tem Steinberg won't call for a vote to remove him, Calderon was merely indicted and Steinberg said if he doesn't step down within a week he will call for a vote to remove him. Am I the only one who doesn't understand this?

SunSeeker

(51,587 posts)
19. As Steinberg said, the two cases are very different.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:11 AM
Feb 2014

Calderon was accused in a 28-page federal grand jury indictment of taking some $100,000 in cash bribes, along with plane trips, golf outings and jobs for his children, in exchange for influencing legislation.

Wright actually owned the house he claimed to be living in. He owns several houses in that area, but one of them, the one prosecutors claimed he was living in predominantly, was just outside his district boundaries. Wright wasn't living in another state (like Romney got away with) or even another county. Further, his conviction is not final yet; he plans to challenge the verdict on the ground that the jury misapplied the domicile requirements, as the article notes. Yes, if the verdict stands (nine felony counts for what amounts to one act seems excessive on its face) it is bad, and Wright will go, but it is nowhere near as horrible as Calderon's repeated bribery.

And with Wright goes the Dem supermajority in CA, which would be WAY worse for CA than anything Wright may have done.

yuiyoshida

(41,833 posts)
21. Wasn't there recently a Republican Senator who did the same thing?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:12 AM
Feb 2014

And nothing happened to him? He claimed he lived out of state.. but went there to work? I remember reading that...

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