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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:08 AM Feb 2014

Senate Democratic Leader Reid Says Conservative Koch Brothers Lack Conscience, Are Un-American

Source: Associated Press

@AP: Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid says conservative Koch brothers lack conscience and are un-American: http://t.co/TkiLJvr8L8

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate's top Democrat criticized a pair of billionaire brothers in unusually harsh terms Wednesday, accusing the conservative duo of being "un-American," spreading lies about President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and lacking a conscience.

In a pair of appearances on the Senate floor, Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., became the latest Democrat this election year to denunciate Charles and David Koch - pronounced "Coke."

The brothers' representatives said Reid's attack was "disgraceful" and accused him of attacking people hurt by the 2010 health care law.

Reid's focus was on television ads that are being used against Democratic congressional candidates, commercials that he said misleadingly criticize the health care law.

"When you make billions of dollars a year you can be as immoral and dishonest as your money will allow you to be," Reid said. "It's too bad that they're trying to buy America, and it's time that the American people spoke out against this terrible dishonesty of these two brothers who are about as un-American as anyone that I can imagine."

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_REID_KOCH_BROTHERS

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Senate Democratic Leader Reid Says Conservative Koch Brothers Lack Conscience, Are Un-American (Original Post) Hissyspit Feb 2014 OP
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #1
"to denunciate"????? Really, AP, how was this not-a-word get through? hedda_foil Feb 2014 #2
More like they outsourced their editors. AngryDem001 Feb 2014 #3
Not a word? Android3.14 Feb 2014 #8
Better still, carla Feb 2014 #10
Give'em Hell, Harry! Leith Feb 2014 #4
Give'em Hell, Harry! Tippy Feb 2014 #9
That's really important. zentrum Feb 2014 #5
Just call them what they are: terrorists...... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #6
Too open. Too crude. aquart Mar 2014 #30
Exactly, they are Domestic Terrorists working to undermine and dismantle the United States. It RKP5637 Mar 2014 #31
So can I deduce that Reid's words are respectful to the rest of us, including me? ffr Feb 2014 #7
I've benefited from the ACA, too, and I'm willing to make an ad about it wordpix Feb 2014 #23
They're turning America into one big coal town, Harry. toby jo Feb 2014 #11
Exactly, their empire needs to be dismantled from them as unAmerican. We put up with RKP5637 Mar 2014 #29
The parasitism of the Kochs & other 1% needs to be front & center for MSM. Thanks Sen Reid! hue Feb 2014 #12
Or are they extremely American? tclambert Feb 2014 #13
No. They have no national allegiance, treasure-sucking parasites. aquart Feb 2014 #20
They don't have party allegiance either. Ask our governor how much he pocketed and did their bidding adirondacker Feb 2014 #24
Which governor? aquart Mar 2014 #25
New York's Andrew Cuomo. Huge letdown from his father's legacy. nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #26
Not a huge surprise, sadly. aquart Mar 2014 #28
For Harry, that is scathing vitriol. The Stranger Feb 2014 #14
Republicans should be taken to court for atacks on the rights guaranteed by the Constitution daybranch Feb 2014 #15
I have said for years... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2014 #19
Hip. hip, hooray to Senator Reid for calling two demonstrated un-American uber-wealthy assholes indepat Feb 2014 #16
Need more of these comments only louder Jake2413 Feb 2014 #17
Give 'em hell, Harry. merrily Feb 2014 #18
Gee, the truth hurts, don't it boys. SmittynMo Feb 2014 #21
where are the Kochs' billion$ hidden? Do they pay taxes? wordpix Feb 2014 #22
Want a real nightmare? aquart Mar 2014 #27
Good for Reid...tell'em like it is. Truer words were never spoken! Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #32
A billionaire is, almost by definition, a globalist, not what we'd call a "patriot" ("patria"). WinkyDink Mar 2014 #33
If only Reid knew someone in the Senate... Orsino Mar 2014 #34
They are FASCISTS just like their daddy, a founding member of the John Birch Society bobthedrummer Mar 2014 #35

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
2. "to denunciate"????? Really, AP, how was this not-a-word get through?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:01 AM
Feb 2014

Have they fired all their editors?

carla

(553 posts)
10. Better still,
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:58 AM
Feb 2014

AP now is concerned with how we pronounce the names of these traitorous bastards. I have always and will always pronounce Koch as COCK!!! The Brothers COCK. Go Harry, GIVE THEM HELL!!!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. That's really important.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:17 AM
Feb 2014

Will call his DC office tomorrow and thank him.

Have to thank every Democrat every time they speak out against these demons and their effect on the system.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. Just call them what they are: terrorists......
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:32 AM
Feb 2014

...that should do it. Because when you're an ''American'' terrorist, you can be droned anytime, anywhere.

- And it's apparently perfectly legal.......

K&R

aquart

(69,014 posts)
30. Too open. Too crude.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

And you do NOT want to activate their wills. Their money has to be out of their hands BEFORE they die.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
31. Exactly, they are Domestic Terrorists working to undermine and dismantle the United States. It
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:48 PM
Mar 2014

could not be more obvious what they are doing. Just look at how they have destroyed Kansas, for one example, and they are rolling their model out across America. Most Americans have no F'en idea what is going on with these jerks!

ffr

(22,671 posts)
7. So can I deduce that Reid's words are respectful to the rest of us, including me?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:45 AM
Feb 2014

My entire family has benefited from the ACA, Obama's, Reid's and Pelosi's signature piece of legislation.

THANK YOU Harry Reid! You rock dude!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. Exactly, their empire needs to be dismantled from them as unAmerican. We put up with
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

too much bullshit in this country.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
24. They don't have party allegiance either. Ask our governor how much he pocketed and did their bidding
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:45 PM
Feb 2014

on teachers, unions, and recently tax codes.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
28. Not a huge surprise, sadly.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:41 PM
Mar 2014

Also, no longer my governor. But he has a tightrope to walk. Wants to look wonderful for a future presidential bid, but can't afford to annoy his money people. Seems to me a wiley negotiator can use that.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
14. For Harry, that is scathing vitriol.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:29 PM
Feb 2014

But at least we're getting somewhere.

Maybe the check shills usually receivesbounced, and he's not happy about it.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
15. Republicans should be taken to court for atacks on the rights guaranteed by the Constitution
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:47 PM
Feb 2014

Our system of Government is supposed to be majority rule with protection of the minorities. It is supposed to be a system which does not favor any religion or no religion. It is a system in which each citizens vote is valuable.
Yet republicans continue to work against the constitution, They work very hard to ensure the rights of Afro-American and Hispanic minorities to vote is impeded wherever possible. Republicans pass laws to promote so called Christian beliefs and force others to support their so called faith. But worse of all republicans make your vote almost worthless in choosing your so called representatives by rigging the election by Gerrymandering.
I have been warned I should not say that republicans are corrupt because some of their most looney Michelle Bachman and Ted Cruz believe what they say and are not speaking to further the finances of the very rich. I usually reply when a system is supposed to be one way and you purport to support the constitution and that system but determine not to do so, then you are corrupt' Whether tainted by money payoff or a belief in a duty to work for a theocracy- Christian nation, you are corrupt because you are supposed to be supporting our constitution.
As a former soldier sworn to protect, I would actually go so far as to say that those who work against the very essence of our country and its traditions in this way are traitors to that country. Whether their names are Koch, Bachmann. or Cruz, they are far from just un-American, they are domestic threats to our way of life, our people, and our Constitution. We should stop using such soft phrases inb talking about them but should call them what they are- haters of liberty and democracy.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
19. I have said for years...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:17 AM
Feb 2014

... that the GOP wouldn't be able to survive a RICO investigation. Just look at what uncle Dick did, lining his pockets and leaving our economy in shambles.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
16. Hip. hip, hooray to Senator Reid for calling two demonstrated un-American uber-wealthy assholes
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:22 PM
Feb 2014

"un-American."

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. Give 'em hell, Harry.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:00 AM
Feb 2014

Truman: "I never gave anybody hell. I just told the truth and they think it's hell."




Of course, he did say, when learning that FDR wanted him as his running mate, "Tell him to go to hell." But, that was before being a Democrat became a religion, instead of a set of political positions.

Both quotes above3 from http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
21. Gee, the truth hurts, don't it boys.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:21 AM
Feb 2014

I agree with Reid. It sickens me that they are spewing untruths about good things that can be happening in this country. They are making every attempt to destroy this country and its citizens. To them, if you don't have money, you're nothing. To them, it's fuck the less fortunate. These guys have no heart, or soul.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
22. where are the Kochs' billion$ hidden? Do they pay taxes?
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:35 AM
Feb 2014

They're allowed to pollute with impunity and they get even richer. No one takes them to court for their cancer-causing industries. Indeed, they own America.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
27. Want a real nightmare?
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:38 PM
Mar 2014

They can't take it with them. If we do not divest them of those billions before they die, their wills will be enforceable. What exactly do you think they plan to fund for the future? Their money will be locked in foundations and essentially untouchable. But which foundations?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
34. If only Reid knew someone in the Senate...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

...who could champion campaign finance reform. That would be handy.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
35. They are FASCISTS just like their daddy, a founding member of the John Birch Society
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:38 PM
Mar 2014

John Birch Society (The Center for Media and Democracy/Source Watch)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/John_Birch_Society

Death to tyrants.

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