Bill would require clinics to post signs telling women they can't be forced into having an abortion
Source: Omaha World Herald
By Martha Stoddard
LINCOLN Nearly 45 years ago, Jeannie Pittam's father exploded in rage when he learned she was pregnant.
He vowed he would never allow her bastard child to live in his home.
Pittam, then 19, dependent on her parents and not seeing any alternatives, did what he wanted. She got an abortion.
It's a decision that haunts her still, she told the Legislature's Judiciary Committee on Thursday.
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alp227
(32,062 posts)I think it's the right move, from the excerpt i see here.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Claiming they were doing it for their own good so the girls didn't "ruin their life"
it's ok though, they all got a chance to pray and ask for jesus forgiveness so they will see the baby again in Heaven. Even though the bible says you will have no memory of your earthly life.
Meh whatever helps them sleep at night
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)dead grandchild.
aquart
(69,014 posts)When Daddy dearest doesn't sign the tuition check?
This is a worthless, useless gesture.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Her father told her to break the law and put her life in danger. Sweet. So she takes his abuse out on everybody else.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)doctor or OB/GYN. If you had an established relationship with your doctor, they would help. They were called "DNC"'s to do it legal. Not everyone had to go to a back alley abortionist. Of course, it helped if you were white with money. But there were ways to do it.
daleo
(21,317 posts)Saying women can't be forced to carry to term against their will.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)gerogie2
(450 posts)The parent putting pressure on a teenager to have an abortion is for the best. I had a ex-girlfriend that became pregnant by another teenager at the age of 16. Her parents made it clear to her if she had the child she would be on her own if she had the baby. She had an abortion and 30+ years later she has a Masters in education, two grown children doing well and has been married for 25 years.
If she had had the baby she would have been on welfare, unable to go to school and been a lot worse off today. Very few men that don't already have abusive personalities will marry a woman with another man's child.
Also the use of abortion to help parents unable to support a child is for the best. Parents that have an unwanted child they can not afford to support costs the taxpayer $15k to $40k per year in welfare costs. The legalization of abortion has saved the taxpayer hundred of billions of dollars over the years.
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)If your ex had had the child, she would probably still have done well, just along another route.
gerogie2
(450 posts)She would of ended up alone and on welfare. She never would have graduated high school or received a scholarship to go to college. There are millions of women that have had babies as teenagers and rarely are the end results good for them or the taxpayer.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Good to know.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)I don't agree with the poster to whom you are replying, but "kill your kid"? Really?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,381 posts)That's a very offensive thing to say, as well as mind-numbingly stupid. Millions of men without abusive personalities marry women who already have children, and you're insulting them with your broad-brush accusation.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)Way back when, Medicaid would pay for a girl's abortion. Jimmy Carter stopped it in 1977.
Someone (? gov't? private?) did a follow up with the women who had a Medicaid abortion. Most of them went onto college and had good paying jobs and later had children when they were able to afford them.
Personally, I am all for Medicaid paying for abortions again. Why are we forcing poor girls with no financials options into having a child? I would much rather the clinic fees than ad infinitum charges for raising a child under less than optimum circumstances.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)Most studies actually show that the age of the mother is less important to the mothers long term economic condition and success than are her initial poverty and educational level at the time she became pregnant.
In other words, poor teens who get pregnant are likely to stay poor. Middle class teens who get pregnant are likely to stay middle class. The social, financial, and support networks already in place for a young woman during her teen years tend to play a larger role in their outcome than their ages at childbirth.
These numbers usually get lost in the statistics because the overwhelming majority of teen mothers come from poor families in the first place (teens from middle class families are statistically more likely to use contraception, abstain from sex entirely, or abort the pregnancies when they do occur). Because most pregnant teens come from our lower socioeconomic tiers, most teen mothers end up poor. When corrected for pre-pregnancy socioeconomic conditions, social support from their families plays a FAR larger role in a mothers success (and that is true whether she is 16 or 26).
Teens should not be having babies for a myriad of reasons, but the common refrain about teen mothers being doomed to a life of poverty and welfare is little more than hyperbole. My wife had her first baby at 16. She has a masters degree and a successful career today. Our oldest graduated 4th in her high school class and is a pre-med student today. And my wife was NEVER "burdening the taxpayers" on welfare. She came from a middle class family with a good social support network, stayed in school, and has led a life she's pretty happy with.
Scaring young women into abortions with horror stories about destroyed futures isn't "choice", and is really the flipside of the same mindset that scares young women AWAY from abortions using photos of aborted fetuses. A choice made under fear and duress isn't a choice at all.
Pregnant young women should be fully educated about the REALITY of pregnancy and motherhood, and the impacts that it will have on THEIR future. At that point they can make an objective and educated CHOICE about whether to keep or terminate the pregnancy. Using scare tactics about welfare mom stereotypes to frighten young women into abortions is offensive.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)as the pro-life crowd.
Nobody should be forced to give birth, and nobody should be forced to have an abortion. I think that's what pro-choice is about.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)She had the choice all along. A sign can't make a father love and support her. A sign does not really provide alternatives.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)We're talking rethuglicans here. There are no alternatives.
alp227
(32,062 posts)just as bad as the days before '73 when ANY abortion was completely illegal in most parts of the country.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)"technically" legal. California was one of those states. The FEDERAL ban was lifted in 1973.
UTUSN
(70,744 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)that's all this is.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)of forced abortions in this country of which I am unaware?
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...but what does any normal person do when there are people who are fully capable of making your life a living Hell if you don't do what they want? You can comply, you can fight back, you can seek help, or you can flee, but the idea that a little placard changes anything is a sick joke.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Just keep saying that and they'll stop this silliness.