That is their fucking job. I bet they were just out having a donut party or sitting in cars giving out lucrative traffic tickets.

under forefeiture laws.

I think Mr. Karmi would do well to see a lawyer at this point. Someone was negligent, either ADT or the cops---or both.

been covered in courts many times.

... they certainly shouldn't be. I hope this shop owner brings a civil action against the city to recover damages alleging willful negligence on the part of the police. They're sworn to "uphold the law," and to "serve and protect" -- period. NOT sworn to "uphold the law" and to "serve and protect so long as all alarm permits and associated fees have been filed and paid."

It's outrageous that anyone in a position of authority would even momentarily entertain the idea of withholding police protection over a permit fee. Citizens of Kansas City should weigh in and any city or police official that tries to defend such unconscionable conduct should be terminated immediately.

have their own ideas of what Police do, and the public in their eyes are just ignorant. Police play by their own rules now.. Its NOT Dragnet or Adam 12...no, this is a whole new ball game.

Alaska, etc. in about 1970.

The ball game now belongs to the 1@ (yes, that is deliberately used).

I am SURE they treat the top 1% far better than us little people. I am reminded of something that
was said to Deckard in the Movie BladeRunner. "If you are not cop, you are little people" That's the way it is now.

They are quick on the trigger when their victim is unarmed, that has been shown time and time again in almost weekly videos.

As a social worker, one of my wife's biggest complaints about German cops was that they never show up when called if there is a risk of a violent confrontation. The difference is that German cops rarely draw their guns ever in the line of duty. A friend of mine who worked for the BKA (German version of the FBI) used to be a cop in the Düsseldorf area, and he said that in 20 years as a cop, he never fired his gun in the line of duty and only drew it once.

The cops go to false alarms from security systems all the time (and the cities see a way to make a buck). In some communities you have to get a permit for alarm systems or the cops won't respond unless it's the homeowner or someone who is present is calling.

Sometimes, the alarm companies don't know about which communities have permits since they change all the time, but usually they tell you or include the permit.

Here, if you have several false alarms you might lose your permit or have to pay a fine. The systems are getting better. Ten to twenty years ago, it seems like someone's alarm was going off all night every weekend. They'd be out of town and the power would blink or something - and the alarm would blare, cops would come, etc. Now, folks are using cameras and controls by internet and false alarms are fewer.

With the permits there is usually a number to call and contact the homeowners, and sometimes a way to cut off the alarm. If the owners are not available, the cops won't show up.

Then say " as long as your here"

Excerpt: NPR interview with David Cay Johnston, 2008:


DCJ: I actually wrote about it first in the LA Times about 25 years ago. I was analyzing how effective and efficient (or ineffective and inefficient) the Los Angeles Police Department was. I came to realize that for every dollar the city of LA was spending investigating homicides, they were spending $1.25 responding to false burglar alarms. Over a ten-year period, the number of murders had doubled because of drug-trafficking. The city had maintained an even commitment to homicide. Basically the same number of homicide teams were at the Police Department at the beginning of the period as at the end. So they cut in half their commitment to solving each murder and lo and behold, the solution rate fell. But they maintained a 100% commitment to false burglar alarms! So as the number of false burglar alarms tripled, the number of officer hours spent responding to them tripled. By the way, most police departments sent two squad cars to check out false burglar alarms because in the rare case where they actually do find somebody, they want to have two cops there.

Terry Gross: So you went back and updated this story.

DCJ: That’s correct – with the new data we found. This is a subsidy that has drained enormous amounts of money. One of the effects of it is that in LA you have these parks that gangs have taken over where little children… I interviewed back later in the ‘80’s… all over the city of LA children between 7 and 11 years old who could tell you what streets were safe to cross and which weren’t. Gangs would show up with guns in the parks, and there were park directors who told about locking all the children inside and sometimes the police didn’t come for hours after this happened. Why? Because so many police were diverted to the false burglar alarm squad!

they probably thought he was just a ___________(fill the blank)

You pay a $50 fee for an alarm permit. Without the permit, the police won't respond to any automated alarm calls, or calls from the security company. They will only respond to direct calls from the owner or neighbor requesting assistance.


As to your question "Why didn't ADT tell him he needed a permit?", the proper answer is "Because ADT is the worst alarm company in America." I'm sure it was buried in the fine print somewhere.