of smuggling arms to Hamas and Hezbollah.

Israel's long and extensive history of false flags and clandestine chicanery.

Not saying it is the case, but in the interest of fairness, it has the same validity.

three or four links would be fine.

This, more recently:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ex-mossad-agent-israel-uses-false-flag-in-most-operations-to-avoid-suspicion-in-arab-states/17853

In the end, the very nature of any covert intelligence operation means it is going to be almost impossible to prove, so I will concede your point strictly for the sake of courtesy. But if you don't think the Mossad isn't executing false flags, you are naive or being willfully obtuse.

unless they were committing acts with the express intention of the blame falling on some other country. That is what a true false flag op is - some other country or group gets blamed for what Israel did.

So you have one valid 60 year old example of a real false flag.

And btw - we know this op was not a false flag unless you believe the US was in on it.

Willfully obtuse.

Saddam must have hidden his WMD in Iran. Who knew??!

Because it conflicts with the narrative often seen here that Iran is a peaceful country that would never act aggressively towards another country.

and doesn't spread to the bigger forums.

seen anyone, ever, think Iran and the Ayatollah were just sweet as pie. "Often seen here". Really?

Constant whining about how mean big bad Israel is to the poor little terrorists who shoot Iranian supplied rockets at their children, and complaining that they should stop worrying about Iran building nuclear weapons because the leaders of the Iranian government are such nice rational people who would never do anything belligerent.

what I've seen is people condemn Israel bombing and killing maiming thousands of people caged in a 139 square mile strip of land known as Gaza and as for Iran what I've seen is people who believe that Iran and its leaders are not suicidal also known as the M(utually) A(ssured) D(estruction) doctrine, most of those disagreeing seem to come from the IMO rather Islamophobic belief that Muslims just want to go to paradise to collect their 72 virgins or something

I'm just not fooled by the disingenuous garbage spewn by useful idiots who make excuses for terrorism and aggressive war.

Please don't tell me you've never heard of it.

the last aggressive war was in 1973 and since then Israel has signed peace treaties with 2 of the so called aggressors, now if you really want to get into aggression who has bombed 2 countries with no provocation keeps a brutal military occupation in place kills civilians for collecting trash too near a border fence, refuses to allow those who's homes it's demolished so much as a ICRC tent for shelter-in the winter ............ I could go on but yet it is the victim here?

Thank you for proving my points.

pointing out Israel has signed 2 peace treaties is evidence of an on going war of aggression against Israel?

Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia are still in an openly declared state of war against Israel, as are the PLO and Hamas.

the last time was as recently as a year ago, and even after adjusting it's requirements at the direction of the POTUS, Israel turned it down straight out of hand

you do seem quite confused though

That doesn't change the fact that the war to destroy Israel continues.

FWIW their terms were deliberately unacceptable posturing and of course did not include Iran and Hamas, but this is just an irrelevant diversion.

even though most of its citizens backed the move

Most Israelis Back Arab Peace Initiative

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/05/most-israelis-back-arab-peace-initiative.html#

POLL: Israelis Overwhelmingly Back Arab Peace Initiative

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/28/2065971/poll-israelis-back-arab-peace-initiative/

Okay, I'll just leave it at that.

The nuclear energy industry has been running a massive PR campaign to convince people that black is white and up is down.

Four of the major problems with nuclear energy are cost, safety, waste, and proliferation.

There has been bizarre denial by nuclear evangelists on all four of those, especially proliferation.

And when the subject of Iran's nuclear program comes up, they go into overdrive.