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former9thward

(32,020 posts)
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:04 PM Mar 2014

Senate rejects Obama appointment of Debo Adegbile to top civil rights post

Source: Washington Post

Opponents of President Obama's nominee to head the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division prevailed in blocking his confirmation Wednesday, as he failed to clear a procedural hurdle.

Eight Senate Democrats, including Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), joined with Republicans in voting against Debo Adegbile, whose nomination was adamantly and vocally opposed by conservatives due to his participation in an appeal filed on behalf of Mumia Abu-Jamal -- an internationally-known prisoner convicted of the 1981 murder of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner.

The vote was expected to be close -- with Vice President Biden on hand to potentially cast a tie-breaking vote -- but the final tally was 47-52 in opposition to the appointment.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/05/senate-rejects-obama-appointment-of-debo-adegbile-to-top-civil-rights-post/?wpisrc=al_politics_p

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Senate rejects Obama appointment of Debo Adegbile to top civil rights post (Original Post) former9thward Mar 2014 OP
Reid's position is distorted in the second paragraph karynnj Mar 2014 #1
Important clarification. Thanks for that. Laelth Mar 2014 #5
Harry Reid supports the nomination. Eric J in MN Mar 2014 #2
Oh for pete's sakes, what a lame excuse to vote no. sheesh. 2banon Mar 2014 #3
The Senate Majority leader does this routinely. Lochloosa Mar 2014 #6
Interesting point. Feral Child Mar 2014 #12
I think 2banon meant it was a lame excuse to vote no because he defended a murderer. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #14
It's a silly rule awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #15
This isn't a law or an amendment. former9thward Mar 2014 #18
I'm not so sure about that. Lochloosa Mar 2014 #20
He has a right to bring it up again. former9thward Mar 2014 #21
Chris Coons is on a roll, between this and his coming out as the PNAC's trained monkey nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #4
Seriously? A guy tied in with the Mumia case? MH1 Mar 2014 #7
So it's the position of those in Philly that a defendant deserves no representation? Savannahmann Mar 2014 #10
No, that's not a necessary conclusion to draw. Demit Mar 2014 #17
I'm sure that's why Casey voted no Freddie Mar 2014 #30
So, participate in an appeal to defend a man for killing a cop... atreides1 Mar 2014 #8
exactly, the hypocrisy is astounding, as well as blatant racial bias. 2banon Mar 2014 #19
Oh, shit .... Debo!? 1000words Mar 2014 #9
OK...I laughed Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #11
pops is trippin frylock Mar 2014 #22
Teling quote in the article DFW Mar 2014 #13
Shameful! Adegbile was well qualified, endorsed by the ABA and prominent lawyers on both sides. flpoljunkie Mar 2014 #16
Welcome to the police state warrprayer Mar 2014 #23
Glad both my Senators voted "no" BlueInPhilly Mar 2014 #24
Nothing to be glad about. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #26
You know that congress is packed full of former attorneys, right? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #27
Very sad that you would tar the lawyer for the actions of the defendant. Demit Mar 2014 #31
Racism is alive and well in the Senate. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #25
Liberty and Justice for All... warrprayer Mar 2014 #29
I didn't even have to look and I knew that Joe fucking Manchin would be one of the no votes. General Zod Mar 2014 #28

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
1. Reid's position is distorted in the second paragraph
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:12 PM
Mar 2014

Later in the article it says:

"Reid initially voted for Adegbile, but he switched his vote to no, giving him the right as Senate leader to bring up the nomination again at a later date."
So in reality Reid did NOT "join the Republicans". It does mean that Reid (or Obama) needs to get two Democrats to change their vote before bringing it up again. Here's a list of Democrats who voted "no".

Other Democrats who voted against the Obama nominee were Chris Coons (Del.),Bob Casey (Pa.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Joe Manchin (W.V.), Joe Donnolly (Ind.) and John Walsh (Mont.).

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. Important clarification. Thanks for that.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:24 PM
Mar 2014

btw, that Coons guy out of Deleware is really starting to tick me off.


-Laelth

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
2. Harry Reid supports the nomination.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:12 PM
Mar 2014

He only voted No for procedural reasons.

"Reid initially voted for Adegbile, but he switched his vote to no, giving him the right as Senate leader to bring up the nomination again at a later date."

Lochloosa

(16,065 posts)
6. The Senate Majority leader does this routinely.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Mar 2014

If he were to vote yes without the votes for confirmation he can't bring the person back up for consideration.

It's not an excuse.

former9thward

(32,020 posts)
18. This isn't a law or an amendment.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

This is a nomination. It will not be reconsidered. Obama will not waste political capital on it.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
7. Seriously? A guy tied in with the Mumia case?
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:34 PM
Mar 2014

Whatever you think of Mumia's guilt or innocence, if you are in the Philly area, you would at least suspect that nominating someone tied to Mumia's defense would be like waving a very large, very red flag in front of a very large and very angry bull.

I just don't know why anyone would bother.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
10. So it's the position of those in Philly that a defendant deserves no representation?
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:45 PM
Mar 2014

Because if that is the position of those in Philly, I'd like to point to the Bill of Rights which has a thing or two to say on the matter.

Popularity or unpopularity of the defendant is not justification to punish council for doing the job the Constitution charges him with.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
17. No, that's not a necessary conclusion to draw.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:56 PM
Mar 2014

The case, the trial, the judge, the whole situation was a hot mess. Mumia was a MOVE sympathizer, which was polarizing to begin with, & he didn't help himself w/his demeanor during the trial. The Daniel Faulkner (cop that was shot, probably by Mumia, maybe by his brother who was at the scene as well, who knows) peeps are almost fanatical in their activism about the case & Mumia to this day. I wouldn't be surprised if they were lobbying hard against this nominee. Poss. why Casey voted no, too, no point in getting burnt by this Phila hot potato. It just all beggars belief. It is a permanent hot mess where the lines were drawn long ago, and it will never make sense.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
30. I'm sure that's why Casey voted no
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:32 PM
Mar 2014

Abu-Jamal is still a *very* hot-button issue here in PA, and Casey wanted nothing to do with anything even remotely involved with the case. His Republican opponent would have labeled him a "cop-killer sympathizer" in a hot minute.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
8. So, participate in an appeal to defend a man for killing a cop...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:34 PM
Mar 2014

...you get screwed, defend a man for killing 8 people you get made Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-pick-targeted-where-others-were-spared

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
19. exactly, the hypocrisy is astounding, as well as blatant racial bias.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:52 PM
Mar 2014

and the position is a civil rights commission chair, a rather toothless post unfortunately. my point being it's not like it's even a judicial position! Not that I'd have a problem with that.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
13. Teling quote in the article
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:00 PM
Mar 2014

"Several prominent Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), took the floor Wednesday to speak in opposition to the nomination and in hopes of swaying vulnerable Democrats facing re-election in red states."

I get this, but first off, not all Democrats voting against are up for re-election, and there is not a one of them who is that McTurtle will go any easier on while trying to remove them in the November election.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
16. Shameful! Adegbile was well qualified, endorsed by the ABA and prominent lawyers on both sides.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:38 PM
Mar 2014
Willie Horton Politics: Senate Votes Against Civil Rights
Ari Berman on March 5, 2014 - 12:58 PM ET


Debo Adegbile outside the Supreme Court on Feb. 27, 2013, after arguments in the Shelby County, Ala., v. Holder voting rights case. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

Today, the US Senate voted 47 to 52 not to confirm Debo Adegbile to head the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice. Every Republican Senator and seven Democrats voted against Adegbile’s nomination.

Adegbile, the former director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, was superbly qualified for the position. He was endorsed by the American Bar Association and high-profile lawyers on both sides of the aisle, and presciently defended the Voting Rights Act before the Supreme Court last year. He would’ve made an excellent head of the Civil Rights Division.

But Adegbile was the victim of a vicious right-wing smear campaign, attacking him because LDF defended Mumia Abu Jamal’s right to a fair trial. All across the right-wing media echo chamber, on Fox News and conservative blogs, the words Adegbile and “cop-killer” were plastered in the headlines. The Fraternal Order of Police came out against his nomination, even though a court agreed with LDF that Abu Jamal had not been granted a fair trial—a basic right in American society regardless of whether he did or did not commit the crime.

It’s understandable why every Republican senator lined up against Adegbile’s nomination—the modern GOP has voted against civil rights time and time again. But the opposition of Democrats Casey, Coons, Donnelly, Heitkamp, Manchin, Pryor and Walsh is more shameful (Harry Reid voted no for procedural reasons, to keep the nomination alive). The idea that voting against the nomination of the head of the DOJ Civil Rights Division would swing a close race is laughable. Casey and Coons deserve particular scorn, since they represent safe blue states and both profess to be supporters of the causes Adegbile supports, like voting rights.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/178686/willie-horton-politics-senate-votes-against-civil-rights

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
23. Welcome to the police state
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:17 PM
Mar 2014

where the cops get to decide who gets to charge them with civil rights violations.

Disgusting and shameful - those who opposed his nomination are not democrats in any sense of the word, IMO.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
24. Glad both my Senators voted "no"
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:18 PM
Mar 2014

I don't understand why Obama would even nominate him when I'm sure there are other qualified lawyers. It's like giving Philadelphians - who supported him overwhelmingly during the last election - a big middle finger. In today's divided political climate, he shouldn't "divide" even more.

Mumia killed a 24-year old cop, it took the jury (with 2 African-Americans) two hours to convict him. I know our legal system is supposed to be adversarial, but the guilt in this case is clear and established.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
26. Nothing to be glad about.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:32 PM
Mar 2014

As the OP notes, a court agreed with LDF that Abu Jamal had not been granted a fair trial—a basic right in American society regardless of whether he did or did not commit the crime.

I think the real reason the GOP went nuts on him was his strong work defending voting rights before the Supreme Court last year...rights the GOP wants to take away from "blue" Philadelphians. He would have been a tireless fighter for voting rights as head of the Civil Rights Division, and the GOP needs to quash voting rights in order to win elections.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
27. You know that congress is packed full of former attorneys, right?
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:37 PM
Mar 2014

How long do you think it would take to find a case from their past that some might find unsavory?

Just a bunch of racist cowards in the Senate doing what they do for the cameras...

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
31. Very sad that you would tar the lawyer for the actions of the defendant.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:59 PM
Mar 2014

He wasn't even representing Mumia in the original trial.

I'm a Philadelphian, and remember these events unfolding in real time. There was so much wrong with how that trial was conducted it's not even funny. Yes, I think Mumia probably did it. But the guilt is Mumia's, not the attorney's. To punish him some 30 years later for Mumia's guilt is an injustice, and a real shame.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
25. Racism is alive and well in the Senate.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:19 PM
Mar 2014

The Republicans and the 8 "Democrats" should be ashamed of themselves.

General Zod

(680 posts)
28. I didn't even have to look and I knew that Joe fucking Manchin would be one of the no votes.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:50 PM
Mar 2014

He's a complete tool and one of the most craven politicians in the Senate.

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