The rest are either shopping for companies or developing their own.

They banned them at public parks where I live. I was at the town council meeting when they passed this. Mostly concerned mothers were testifying about exposure and access to e-cigarettes to their kids.

Regular cigarettes were already banned in parks. E-cigarettes will ultimately be rolled into all existing cigarette laws.

Most states just can't give up their sweet, sweet tobacco taxes. The fact that the product involved kills people, well, that's just too bad (and saves on Medicare later).

While--I think it was MI--tagged a 95% tax on e-cig stuff, most states haven't gotten there yet and have some trouble defining exactly what's e-cig stuff.

Regrettably, most of the chemistry used is also used in too many other sources. Propylene glycol is fed to livestock, used in IV medications, hospital air systems (some, others use microfilters), and nebulizer treatments. The list is endless.

Vegetable glycerine is used in soap making, food, personal care, medications...the list is endless.

Flavors/scents are used everywhere.

About the only thing left is the nicotine extract.

Making vape nicotine less attractive as an alternative seems the goal.

You ever brew tea in a kettle?

Propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, flavoring (various; mine is menthol and cinnamon) (optional), and pharmaceutical grade nicotine (optional).

None class as toxins in the amounts generated in a sealed chamber over several hours to the primary user. Secondhand vapor simply doesn't apply.

Alternately, I have a problem with you spewing that formaldehyde out of you every time you breathe. Do that in your own home, but don't expose me to your toxins.

Thank you.

...and their health consequences. Got any?

There IS NO second hand smoke with e-cigs. Not even a smell. NADA.

This is just pitiful. I guess e-cig manufacturers aren't paying bribes, or they're not paying enough. Either way, no one can convince me that City Councils - especially in Los Angeles - care one iota for the public health. They'd otherwise BAN Humvees - the monster jeep and monster polluter but is, strangely, exempt from smog checks, and what rich people just LOVE to do their groceries in. Give me a break.

I guess Stephen Dorff and Jenny McCarthy will just have to move to a city that allow e-cigarettes. Oh well as a former smoker who quit 21 years ago cold turkey and never looked back I don't understand the need for e-cigarettes. Either smoke the real thing or don't bother.

Your opinion on the subject means squat to most people.

How nice that cold turkey worked for you. It doesn't work for most people and it didn't for me. Patches didn't work for me, pills didn't work for me, cutting down didn't work for me, in fact nothing I tried worked for me. Until somebody gave me an e-cig.

Within a year I was off cigarettes for good. That was 5 years ago. I no longer vape but I will forever be grateful they were available when I needed them. I'd like them to remain available for countless others who need them.

If you get off on authoritarian legislation like this, there's another website that is just your cup of tea.

I never said I supported the legislation I simply said that their spokespersons would have to find new places to "light up". Some people jump to many conclusions about what people post. Yes I am fortunate that I was able to quit at the age of 30 before I did any really damage to myself. I know it isn't easy I have friends who have tried to quite for years and can't do it. My Uncle died of COPD and my father-in-law will do the same. Your ugly and uninformed comment about hanging out at FR was quite unnecessary but seems to be the norm around here for people with high post counts against those that don't have as high a count. Good luck down the road with your health because 3 packs a day is hard on the lungs.

The reason not to smoke cigarettes is because the combustion of the tar & chemicals is bad for you. The smoke smells, both when the cigarette is burning and after it has permeated every surface around you.

E-cigarettes is just a convenient name for the nicotine delivery device. It's a battery that screws into a cartridge that holds liquid that turns to vapor that you inhale. It is a nicotine replacement strategy, just as nicotine gum and the patch are nicotine replacement strategies. Except it is a HELL of a lot more effective.

Smoking the real thing? You are telling people they should smoke rather than quit smoking? Are you that macho about your personal cold turkey success or are you just plain insane?

If there is no harm to others, and somebody wants to smoke an ecig, that is good enough for me.

No other method. None. Nada, results in as much cigarette smoking reduction, with less harmful chemicals and cancer causing agents than you, reader, will pump out of your car at a 100x this rate while sitting at a stoplight surrounded by others doing the same to the air you breathe.

Wouldn't it be funny if a lot of these cancers people are seeing come from their cars and manufacturing residues, not from people trying to control an addiction by putting out nearly harmless vapor into the air? And you, or your kids, wind up on the machines next to us because you spent your time beating up on the wrong people? Be sure and say hi.

An admittedly small study, but that's the norm in a world full of people all about finding ways to hate someone.

proved (As much as you can prove anything is) ecigs to be totally harmless. This is a moral crusade and neither science nor logic are invited. The language people are using in defending this ban is very close to the ranting of the anti-vaxers for a reason. (TOOOOOXXXXXXIIIIIINS!)

e-cigarette. Cigarettes make me ill even before I can smell them, but e-cigarettes were supposed to have no ill effects, and I thought, great, it will make him happy without hurting me. Well, about a minute after he started that thing up, I started to feel as if I could pull air into my lungs but that there was no oxygen in the air. That was what it felt like. I quickly got dizzy and told him so, and then I moved to the far other side of the building. I will be so happy when those are completely banned.

because something serious must be going on with you so have that kind of reaction to an e-cig. Or maybe it was all in your head?

to cause a "negative reaction"

in the trash. I took it out to look at it, and in it was an entry to a contest. I entered and won ten million dollars.

Because you can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true. A French Model told me that. On the Internet.

So lets say the above story has a one in a billion chance of being true - there are dozens of different products out there that could be e-cigarettes. This person may have tried to light theirs with a lighter (saw it done, force of habit is stronger than most people realize, I think). Or it may have been something obnoxious to you and you or they moved.

Problem over.

When they ban them, however, the person will be told to take Chantix, a drug for which all providers now get special suicide prevention instructions because people took it and sometimes killed themselves. And others.

So are you more comfortable knowing that your seatmate has stopped the most deadly part of their habit and now, by sucking on vegetable oil, distilled water, sometimes propylene glycol (like your doctor WILL give you before a colonoscopy), and often nicotine which, for most people, decreases over time since they can control what is put in.

OR

Comfortable that they are sitting at home, and their guns have never been cleaner?

That was my experience.

Oh, and millions upon millions of these pills have been and are being given out to our friends and neighbors, especially now that they preface the gift with "be sure and call us if you feel suicidal". (Think the teens are getting their hands on it, just to experiment? Wonder if teens ever feel suicidal?)

This is what you (no, not the you, you, but the wider everyone-who-thinks-this-is-what-they-want you) want?

Respectfully, choose on, sister or brother.

In the shower for instance? How about the steam room or sauna? Ever run a humidifier in your house?

Your post has no basis in fact, it's just a bunch of suppositions and self-inflicted anxiety.

Because people who vape know there is no smoke involved. That's a big reason we're using these things.

And "starting it up" involves turning the battery on. Do you have such severe reactions when, say, someone turns on their cell phone?

I really really doubt your story. Maybe you should read up on a few details about vaping so you can make your next story more believable.

There is no carbon monoxide from an ecig and the vapor from it dissipates rapidly. It probably could not even reach you from two cubicles away and it certainly would not affect the amount of oxygen in the air.

You sound like the woman who, when I was smoking cigs prior to ecigs, started loudly choking and hacking at a bus stop where I was on line with a cigarette in my hand and claimed that unless I stopped smoking she was going to pass out. Well, funny thing, the cigarette wasn't lit.

But I disagree with this. Smoking is one thing because cigarettes have empirical evidence supporting the assertion that second hand smoke harms others. There is no evidence that water vapor from e-cigs harms anyone.

Taxation and Regulation, Not Prohibition!

I have used ecigs for exactly 3 months now, starting 12/5/13, helping me completely quit a 2 pack a day, 40 year cigarette habit. There are no toxins or second hand smoke with ecigs that could possibly affect anyone else despite some of the replies here.

Many people have told me why they object and every single person who has objected has stated the same reason to me: They are smokers or former smokers and seeing me vape makes them want to have a cigarette. Not a single person who is not a smoker or former smoker has ever complained about it to me.

I didn't even know he was using them until he told me. I've been in his office when he used them, and I actually thought it smelled kinda nice.

My favorite flavor juices have a bit of nut and caramel in them, plus another with chocolate and mint and occasionally people will say it smells nice, that the aroma (which is subtle) is pleasing. They have no clue someone is vaping and usually look around to see if someone is eating (some say it reminds them of brownies).

This is bullshit. I was a chain smoker many years ago who at times smoked 3 packs a day. Just how is vapor a hazard compared to smoke? And just how is cigarette smoke the #1 hazard compared to the pollutants from automobiles, electronics and factories?