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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 06:19 AM Mar 2014

Ukraine oligarchs get key posts in bid for unity

Source: Associated Press

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) -- In a surprising move after Russia flexed its military might in the Crimean Peninsula, Ukraine's new leadership has reached out to oligarchs for help - appointing them as governors in eastern regions where loyalties to Moscow are strong.

With their wealth, influence and self-interest in preventing further conflict, the oligarchs could be the key to calming tensions and maintaining Ukraine's control in areas where pro-Russian activists have stoked separatist tensions.

But the decision to appoint the country's richest men as regional administrators has its risks. Some believe the oligarchs, who have a history of manipulating governments, may become too entrenched in their new jobs and could use their posts for personal gain.

The unexpected move drew instant ire from Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called one of the oligarchs, Ukraine's third-richest man, Ihor Kolomoisky, a "swindler."

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_OLIGARCHS_TO_THE_RESCUE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-07-04-11-31

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Ukraine oligarchs get key posts in bid for unity (Original Post) dipsydoodle Mar 2014 OP
It reminds us of Putin's playbook with Abramovich, but will it work ? jakeXT Mar 2014 #1
The question should be asked . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #5
Interesting... HoosierCowboy Mar 2014 #8
Your info is inaccurate. They grew in 2013 to have the highest rates in most of Europe. go west young man Mar 2014 #11
Yes. bemildred Mar 2014 #12
The government paying mothers with children...I can hear their screams /nt jakeXT Mar 2014 #13
Yeah, really the horror of it. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #14
That's not surprising at all. JVS Mar 2014 #2
This ^^^^ ctsnowman Mar 2014 #6
No matter who loses, the oligarchs will win. joshcryer Mar 2014 #3
But the Maidan protests were in opposition to corruption, right? another_liberal Mar 2014 #4
The more things change albino65 Mar 2014 #7
Corrupt people pretend to represent the interests of "the people" to get power all the time AZ Progressive Mar 2014 #10
The old ways are best. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #9

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
1. It reminds us of Putin's playbook with Abramovich, but will it work ?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 06:29 AM
Mar 2014

Governor

Abramovich was the governor of Chukotka from 2000 to 2008. It has been estimated that he spent over US$1.3 billion (€925 million) of his own money on the region,[31] which now has one of the highest birth rates in Russia.[32] Under Abramovich, living standards improved, schools and housing were restored and new investors were being drawn to the region.[33]

In 2003, Abramovich was named Person of the Year by Expert, a Russian business magazine. He shared this title with Mikhail Khodorkovsky.

Abramovich was awarded the Order of Honour for his "huge contribution to the economic development of the autonomous district [of Chukotka]", by a decree signed by the President of Russia.[34]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
5. The question should be asked . . .
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 08:10 AM
Mar 2014

Exactly where and how did Mr. Abramovich get his "own money." Al Capone most likely considered everything he extorted from helpless Chicago businesses his "own money" as well.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
8. Interesting...
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:42 PM
Mar 2014

...that you should mention birth rates. One of Vlads' issues overall is the declining birth rate among Russians. Chernobyl has put a dent in fertility. In a few generations native Russians could be outnumbered by minorities even in Russia itself, just like what is happening in the U.S..
Maybe that's why Vlad has issues with homosexuality. he needs more "Hero Mothers of the Soviet Union" medals to hand out with not enough takers....

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
11. Your info is inaccurate. They grew in 2013 to have the highest rates in most of Europe.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:50 PM
Mar 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia
Primarily due to Putins policies. He offered $10,000 to women for the birth of a child. The people had a lot more sex due to this smart incentive. This was money from oil revenues by the way. So Europe deserves a small amount of praise for paying for it.

The demographics of Russia is about the demographic features of the population of the Russian Federation,[6] including population growth, population density, ethnic composition, education level, health, economic status and other aspects.
According to an official estimate for 1 January 2014, the population of Russia is 143,700,000.[7]
The population hit a historic peak at 148,689,000 in 1991, just before the breakup of the Soviet Union, but then began a decade-long decline, falling at a rate of about 0.5% per year due to declining birth rates, rising death rates and emigration.[8]
The decline slowed considerably in late 2000s, and in 2009 Russia recorded population growth for the first time in 15 years, adding 23,300 people.[9][10] Key reasons for the slow current population growth are improving health care, changing fertility patterns among younger women, falling emigration and steady influx of immigrants from the ex-USSR countries. In 2012, Russia's population increased by 292,400 people.[11]
As of 2013, Russian TFR of 1.72 children per woman[5] was the highest in Eastern, Southern and Central Europe. In 2013, Russia experienced the first natural population growth since 1990 at 22,700 people. Taking into account immigration, the population grew by 294,500 people.[12]
According to the 2010 census, ethnic Russian people make up 81% of the total population. This share remained steady over the last few decades.[13][14] Six other ethnicities have a population exceeding 1 million – Tatars (3.9%), Ukrainians (1.4%), Bashkir (1.1%), Chuvash (1%), Chechens (1%) and Armenians (0.9%). In total, 160 different ethnic groups live within the Russian Federation's borders.
Russia's population density is 8.4 people per square kilometre (22 per square mile), making it one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world. The population is most dense in the European part of the country, with milder climate, centering around Moscow and Saint Petersburg. 74% of the population is urban, making Russia a highly urbanized country.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Yes.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:48 PM
Mar 2014

Putin is a religious conservative nationalist, you want to understand his motives, there it is. That's why the Tea Party relates to him, they are too.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
3. No matter who loses, the oligarchs will win.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 06:45 AM
Mar 2014

I was touched when Obama set sanctions on some Russian actors but he needs to come out and name names.

And make them all oligarchs.

Putin would squirm then.

Already the Russian parliament is saying no to war, if Ukraine defends itself, what is Putin going to do then?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
4. But the Maidan protests were in opposition to corruption, right?
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 08:06 AM
Mar 2014

The Maidan protests were rooted in the peoples' demands that corruption, such as that which was so prevalent in President Yanukovich's government, had to be eliminated from Ukraine. How can this be true? Now that a "good" government is in power in Ukraine, there can't be a general move on it's part to elevate the country's most corrupt men to the highest positions of power, can there?

(sarcasm intended)

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
10. Corrupt people pretend to represent the interests of "the people" to get power all the time
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:28 PM
Mar 2014

It's basically textbook knowledge that aggressive corrupt people follow like following the directions of a recipe.

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